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RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Belzebuth - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 02:05 AM)Demonstrate Wrote:  Do some searching and read up about HFAlert, these type of things never really work out. It’s great that you’re attempting to help out, but please just leave it to the staff.

Oh is not only for HF!
Its for ALL ! eBay, Forums, Vidéo-Games etc.
And for private exchange too :)


You can report everyone type of scammer.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - FamousHater - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 02:00 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  Hey FamousHater,

Why ?

hi

cause the last user ended up going way to far with this kind of idea as others have posted. hackforums has many tools to identify scammers etc. if people cant even use the Deal dispute DB thats on HF what makes u think they will use your site lol
people are always in to big of a rush to do deals on hf and its why scamming happens more times then not


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Belzebuth - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 02:10 AM)FamousHater Wrote:  hi

cause the last user ended up going way to far with this kind of idea as others have posted. hackforums has many tools to identify scammers etc. if people cant even use the Deal dispute DB thats on HF what makes u think they will use your site lol
people are always in to big of a rush to do deals on hf and its why scamming happens more times then not


As mentioned above, this site is for any type of scam and for any sites where exchanges occur!


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Frankey - Dec 29, 2017

Cool idea, but I don't think it'll become something big. It's just to small atm and it won't become bigger without you manually starting to make it usable. By adding scammers your self.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Nebo - Dec 29, 2017

Your idea is quite flawed in many different areas.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - FamousHater - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 02:12 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  As mentioned above, this site is for any type of scam and for any sites where exchanges occur!
yes but why would anyone waste time submitting scammers to ur site


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - SuperiorUser - Dec 29, 2017

this is exactly how somebody can manipulate the shit out of competition and complete fuckary.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Vanderbilt - Dec 29, 2017

Ever heard of Mccarthyism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Quote: The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism(reputation) of political adversaries.




RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - User1999 - Dec 29, 2017

This is actually not a bad idea and with some regulation could be something.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Nebo - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 03:19 AM)User1999 Wrote:  This is actually not a bad idea and with some regulation could be something.

This is a good idea on paper however not very practical. 
Many flaws and issues with this setup and it's not going to be really successful.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Armada - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 02:08 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  Oh is not only for HF!
Its for ALL ! eBay, Forums, Vidéo-Games etc.
And for private exchange too :)


You can report everyone type of scammer.

You are missing the point to why we are saying this wont work.
We had a member create a similar service and naturally, people around here abused it to harass other members.

We are not saying the site is a bad idea, we are saying it wont work for THIS site.
Further you have had numerous members who have seen this same thing happen numerous times and you are debating with us it wont be the case this time.

We are telling you this so you avoid problems with staff here. The last member lost their account if I am not mistaken.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Belzebuth - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 02:32 AM)FamousHater Wrote:  yes but why would anyone waste time submitting scammers to ur site

Because next time he can see if his next dealer is a scammer or not.
If everyone thinks like him (like an idiot) the site will not work :(

(Dec 29, 2017 03:51 AM)Armada Wrote:  You are missing the point to why we are saying this wont work.
We had a member create a similar service and naturally, people around here abused it to harass other members.

We are not saying the site is a bad idea, we are saying it wont work for THIS site.
Further you have had numerous members who have seen this same thing happen numerous times and you are debating with us it wont be the case this time.

We are telling you this so you avoid problems with staff here.  The last member lost their account if I am not mistaken.


Except that website is serious.
We are wary of every warning.

You can use this service for any type of scam on eBay etc.

Certainly I shared it on HF, but this is not meant to be synchronized.
The "deal disput" category does that very well.
That's why if you get scammed on categories out of HF must / can report a scammer.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - FamousHater - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 03:59 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  Because next time he can see if his next dealer is a scammer or not.
If everyone thinks like him (like an idiot) the site will not work :(



Except that website is serious.
We are wary of every warning.

You can use this service for any type of scam on eBay etc.

Certainly I shared it on HF, but this is not meant to be synchronized.
The "deal disput" category does that very well.
That's why if you get scammed on categories out of HF must / can report a scammer.
again why would i even think of using your site?
if someone cant even submit a DD on here there's no way in hell they would submit one on your site. its doesnt matter if it works for ebay, amazon or your grandmas cookie site. if your offering it here on hf then all we care about is if the scammer scammed ON hf. admin has stated before that deals that happen offsite is useless. nice thought of what u trying to do but hackforums is not the place for you to try and put your stamp on stopping scammers.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Armada - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 03:59 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  Except that website is serious.
We are wary of every warning.

You can use this service for any type of scam on eBay etc.

Certainly I shared it on HF, but this is not meant to be synchronized.
The "deal disput" category does that very well.
That's why if you get scammed on categories out of HF must / can report a scammer.

Which leads me to the next issue the site will have.

(Dec 29, 2017 01:54 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  Hey everyone!

We check ALL report.
We often check our database. We will also provide email replies to all those who ask to no longer be in by asking for accurate and real evidence.
We spend at least 10 minutes per report to check it.
Thank you for your understanding, and also why not post a maximum of scammers on the site!

You say you verify and check every report, but as a 3rd party to any report it is impossible for you to verify any of the information provided.
Plain and simple. People lie, People are manipulative, and people will cheat the system.

What is to stop me from filing a report for say an ebay transaction that went personally find, but I photoshop the proof to indicate I never got the item, or something else?

How can you as a 3rd party individual verify if those provided images and information is accurate or not?

You can't it is impossible.
This is why ebay, Amazon and any other company has their own dispute process, they have access to the information required to make a determination. You do not.


RE: CheckScammer.pw - Check if a scammer is in our database ! - Nebo - Dec 29, 2017

(Dec 29, 2017 03:59 AM)Belzebuth Wrote:  Because next time he can see if his next dealer is a scammer or not.
If everyone thinks like him (like an idiot) the site will not work :(



Except that website is serious.
We are wary of every warning.

You can use this service for any type of scam on eBay etc.

Certainly I shared it on HF, but this is not meant to be synchronized.
The "deal disput" category does that very well.
That's why if you get scammed on categories out of HF must / can report a scammer.

  1. You say your website is multi-purpose. You offer look up based on an username but what if it's a common username, wouldn't it lead to false-positives?

  2. Your result messages are inverted. I'm doing a scammer look up and it says 'positive', this should mean that the person's a scammer, right?

  3. Using reCaptcha for a scammer lookup? Plain annoying. You can find better captcha solutions.

  4. Sites with a similar concept exist, but they are mostly based on a SPECIFIC area of interest. Having a multi-purpose scammer list won't be nearly as effective as catering to a certain niche/community will, ever. Good examples are https://rep.tf/ and https://steamrep.com. You see how these sites are useful to Steam users or TF2 players, but who's the target audience for your site?  

  5. Data. Your lookup is way too simple. I type a word and it says "go deal with him" or "person's a scammer" but the site does not provide any PROOF whatsoever for the result.

  6. Your site doesn't have any social media profiles, reputation is nonexistent. I know it's a startup but you'll eventually need to focus on building a certain reputation if you plan to succeed with this project of yours.

  7. Staff (Admins/Mods)? One person can't handle a broad, multi-purpose large database of scammers.