(Oct 15, 2021 12:19 AM)Дождь Wrote:  He is not selling a group. He is selling a Crew and there is a big big big difference between those two. A Syndicate Crew worth less than $400 is not that attractive. I own a Cartel which is worth $1500 and groups, from what I learned are normally $4000 and up.

(Oct 15, 2021 12:20 AM)Allelujah Wrote:  I meant crew. 🤦‍♂️

Anyways. I don't think he's going to purchase any groups or crews for a while after selling his crew.

Also, I don't think crews are actually worth that much. I don't even think I'm gonna sell my crew for $550

Syndicates are 500k bytes now. If bytes are currently going for 1.5USD/k that's ~750 He just wants out.

(Oct 15, 2021 12:30 AM)Дождь Wrote:  Very true, I agree with that! And yeah, a lot of Crews are going for far less than they are worth, it takes a proper business plan to run a crew efficiently, so I guess that is why many are not ready to make that investment. :)

(Oct 15, 2021 12:17 AM)Дождь Wrote:  The price difference between the 2 groups are crazy, but we all know, no one is going to buy it at those prices lol! Not even bending

(Oct 15, 2021 12:20 AM)Allelujah Wrote:  I meant crew. 🤦‍♂️

Anyways. I don't think he's going to purchase any groups or crews for a while after selling his crew.

Also, I don't think crews are actually worth that much. I don't even think I'm gonna sell my crew for $550

Syndicates are 500k bytes now. If bytes are currently going for 1.5USD/k that's ~750 He just wants out.

(Oct 15, 2021 01:19 AM)Bankrupt Wrote:  never say never, panthers coming with that client list is actually pretty valuable. Something no other group can offer. Not that i agree or disagree with the price, but they have completely different perks

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this is true. undercutting the market, most likely for a reason, as you've said. If that doesnt sell ill be very surprised.

Edit* i do think crews are worth more than what theyre going for right now. anywhere else you look online you wont be able to have your own custom UB and community for so cheap

(Oct 15, 2021 07:34 AM)Allelujah Wrote:  You could easily have your own custom userbar, community, and just about anything else you wanted for cheaper than a crew. Would it be as big as HF? Probably not. Would it have the resources HF has? Probably not. (I'm referring to creating your own MyBB, phpbb, etc. Hosting is really cheap)

So I do agree with you in the sense that Crews here have a decent bang for your buck. I would like to see the crew classification expanded upon.

What I would really love to see is a product page. The marketplace is nice and all, but an actual product page would be x10 better in my opinion. Could keep the B Rating, and instead of threads have the product page. Accessible by Crews, Groups, and Vendors.

Users that are a part of the Vendor group would of course get more options and probably should be the only user group allowed to make product pages. Being a part of a group or crew would give extra benefits. (i.e. Group discounts, exclusives, branding, advertising across the forums, etc) Without being a part of a crew or group your branding would be limited to just your name(not that I think it would make a difference).

Just spitballing on what I think could improve the value of groups and crews. Might come off as rambling.

(Oct 15, 2021 06:04 PM)BalloonsAreFun Wrote:  It's funny to see how many groups are for sale now compared to just a year ago.

(Oct 15, 2021 06:25 PM)Xen Wrote:  I don't think the number of groups for sale has really decreased or increased in a year.

Crew sales on the other hand, definitely.

(Oct 15, 2021 07:57 PM)Nuworld Wrote:  Seeing how the current forum activity has declined within the past few years
it's not a surprise that crews are more up for sell.

Seeing how there are no new updates to the hum/hack games.
there is no reason to own a crew other than the ability to change user bars.
Owning a crew of any type is a waist of money.

As for groups? they come and go with the times. Sell at over precised with the promise of making the forum great again.
And yet? They all crash and burn like always.

Rinse and Repeat.

Groups owner thinking they can recuperate there investment with over priced groups for sell?
In all realty? it's funny to watch.
Back in the day? Yes! one could make a few bucks selling a group.
Now today? Nope you take what the market says to take.

(Oct 15, 2021 07:57 PM)Nuworld Wrote:  Seeing how the current forum activity has declined within the past few years
it's not a surprise that crews are more up for sell.

Seeing how there are no new updates to the hum/hack games.
there is no reason to own a crew other than the ability to change user bars.
Owning a crew of any type is a waist of money.

As for groups? they come and go with the times. Sell at over precised with the promise of making the forum great again.
And yet? They all crash and burn like always.

Rinse and Repeat.

Groups owner thinking they can recuperate there investment with over priced groups for sell?
In all realty? it's funny to watch.
Back in the day? Yes! one could make a few bucks selling a group.
Now today? Nope you take what the market says to take.

(Oct 15, 2021 08:36 PM)Cap Wrote:  Yeah, activity has dipped, but it's still an active forum - just not like it was back in 2012. A lot has changed here throughout the years and I have seen a lot of the changes. Groups and crews come and go, that's just how things go. A lot of the problems group owners have are they go to purchase a group with a vision in mind (well, sometimes), but they don't realize the work actually required to achieve the goals and build an empire. They get discouraged and then sell. It's a grind and it takes time to make an impact on the forum and reach your goals, but it's definitely doable - you just need the right person who is stubborn, driven, and headstrong.

But in terms of selling a group, you're exactly right. You sell and take what the market gives you. Back in the day, you could sell groups for $10k+, but now, you're looking at lower thousands typically.

(Oct 15, 2021 08:39 PM)Bankrupt Wrote:  if i can give my 2 cents, i think if mean girls wasnt pink it would be sold already tbh