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* - surelyenough - Aug 19, 2016
Nobility, you should sell it. Leave the dead horse alone. It was an ok run, although I felt kinda scammed as well.
* - Ī”hoenix - Aug 19, 2016
(Aug 19, 2016 05:03 AM)surelyenough Wrote: Nobility, you should sell it. Leave the dead horse alone. It was an ok run, although I felt kinda scammed as well.You just joined two months ago? Null hasn't been active in over a year.. #MutliConfirmed
* - Stashyy - Aug 19, 2016
If you're going to be active on HF then just leave it the way it is. You don't have to re-brand it.
* - surelyenough - Aug 19, 2016
(Aug 19, 2016 05:30 AM)Extroid Wrote: You just joined two months ago? Null hasn't been active in over a year.. #MutliConfirmedNull has been active offsite forever, you fucktard.
* - zSerity - Aug 19, 2016
Not really lowballing you, groups were never actually worth $10,000
You'd think with the thousands of dollars in buyins you got from the program you wouldn't mind selling at a bit of a loss, unless you never saw any of that profit which would blow.
* - Meow - Aug 19, 2016
Why don't you continue with Null student program and all that stuff you did b4 when Vinnie was around? You could lower buy-in (tutoring) price and continue with the group the way it is, without re-brand.
Recruit new tutors (if most of them are behind bars/inactive) and continue with 'old' Null?
* - ThisIsCyn - Aug 19, 2016
Pmed you about this would be nice to here back
* - #Doge - Aug 20, 2016
Interesting. Would love to see how this would turn out. Looking forward to the rebrand.
Goodluck Nob.
* - Hash G. - Aug 20, 2016
(Aug 19, 2016 05:30 AM)Extroid Wrote: You just joined two months ago? Null hasn't been active in over a year.. #MutliConfirmed
Surely enough he is a multi. š
Nobility, imo if you have the motivation you should keep it as it is, and start it again, with motivated and devoted people. Also start again the student programs, for half the price. Will help to grow activity.
* - illuminatiā² - Aug 21, 2016
Just reboot Null, find more members that are skilled and continue the way it was before it died.
The first round of student rounds, don't charge. Just find members that really want to learn about that stuff.
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* - Premortal - Aug 21, 2016
(Aug 21, 2016 10:19 PM)illuminatiā² Wrote: Just reboot Null, find more members that are skilled and continue the way it was before it died.
The first round of student rounds, don't charge. Just find members that really want to learn about that stuff.
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The only issue with that is being able to find seriously dedicated teachers who are willing to put their time and professional knowledge towards an HF group without any pay. It's part of the reason why The Alliance fell inactive towards the end of its life cycle, and part of the reason why courses inside of Null had such a high cost.
Finding members that "really want to learn about stuff" is just as hard when you have to sieve through the members that just want the notoriety that comes with the userbar.
* - illuminatiā² - Aug 21, 2016
(Aug 21, 2016 11:16 PM)Premortal Wrote: The only issue with that is being able to find seriously dedicated teachers who are willing to put their time and professional knowledge towards an HF group without any pay. It's part of the reason why The Alliance fell inactive towards the end of its life cycle, and part of the reason why courses inside of Null had such a high cost.
Finding members that "really want to learn about stuff" is just as hard when you have to sieve through the members that just want the notoriety that comes with the userbar.
For sure.
But I'm sure there would be a few members that would be willing to help, if they won't do it for free, I suppose they could a cheaper buy-in price of like $50-$100, opposed to the $500 they used to charge. Not a lot of members will pay the $500 now, like they used to.
I'm sure there is a bunch of members that would love the opportunity to expand their knowledge into the "Hacking/security" fields.
* - Īyden - Aug 22, 2016
(Aug 21, 2016 11:24 PM)illuminatiā² Wrote: For sure.
But I'm sure there would be a few members that would be willing to help, if they won't do it for free, I suppose they could a cheaper buy-in price of like $50-$100, opposed to the $500 they used to charge. Not a lot of members will pay the $500 now, like they used to.
I'm sure there is a bunch of members that would love the opportunity to expand their knowledge into the "Hacking/security" fields.
Nulled had a $500 buy-in? What the fuck.
* - Premortal - Aug 22, 2016
(Aug 21, 2016 11:24 PM)illuminatiā² Wrote: For sure.
But I'm sure there would be a few members that would be willing to help, if they won't do it for free, I suppose they could a cheaper buy-in price of like $50-$100, opposed to the $500 they used to charge. Not a lot of members will pay the $500 now, like they used to.
I have no doubt that there are plenty of people that are willing to teach classes for free, but the problem is getting them to maintain that activity for prolonged periods of time. After about three or four lessons both the teachers and the students tend to fall into inactivity if there's no money involved.
(Aug 21, 2016 11:24 PM)illuminatiā² Wrote: I'm sure there is a bunch of members that would love the opportunity to expand their knowledge into the "Hacking/security" fields.
Of course there are, but there are other issues with students that aren't so obvious when recruiting. Like I said before, there are the members that just want a userbar, but there are also members who only have a passing interest in what's being taught. They like the idea of learning, but don't like the idea of having to sacrifice time and putting forth an effort to achieve it. Then there are the members who have an honest and true desire to learn but are hindered by things out of their own control, like time constraints and off-forum commitments. So that leaves a small pool of members who have a sincere desire to learn along with the available time/resources to dedicate to learning, but are still liable to fall to one of the other camps I mentioned at any time. The pool of possible students suddenly becomes very small, even smaller when you consider the amount of them that can afford to make payments of any kind towards online mentoring.
* - wander is a multi dwc - Aug 22, 2016
(Aug 22, 2016 12:15 AM)Īyden Wrote: Nulled had a $500 buy-in? What the fuck.
It wasn't really a buy-in. It was a student package offered by Null that had a variety of courses hosted by its members.