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Best Langauge For... - Motley - Feb 22, 2015
Hey guys,
I want to start learning a programing langauge but before I commit to one I want to know what the best langauge is. My overall goal is to be able to make tools such as say Instagram/Facebook hackers, crypters, fake hacking stuff, stuff like that. What is the best langauge to learn for these purposes? I'm guessing it would be either C, C#, or C++ anyway thanks!
* - mrtwothree - Feb 22, 2015
If you are trying to make programs that just look like they work then your are just focused on the GUI s0 instead of going with C what about VB which is easy to make programs with user interfaces. Thats just my input tho.
* - Motley - Feb 22, 2015
I'm not just trying to make things that look the part I want to make things that work. I'm wondering what langauge is best for coding account hackers, and stuff like that.
* - Sakuto - Feb 23, 2015
They are no best language, the best language is the language you know. So just take one and practice it.
* - Affluent - Feb 23, 2015
Fake hacking stuff, crypters, brute forcers can all be done via VB.NET or C#. You will not be able to go crazy advanced though.
* - KillαMuvz - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 08:18 AM)Zoom Servers Wrote: Fake hacking stuff, crypters, brute forcers can all be done via VB.NET or C#. You will not be able to go crazy advanced though.
What's stops you from going crazy advanced with C#?
* - Affluent - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 08:21 AM)KillαMuvz Wrote: What's stops you from going crazy advanced with C#?
If he actually wants to start making products worth a damn. Dependencies which turn many customers off. Also other products such as rats and such have features that can only be done CORRECTLY in C, Delphi, C++, ASM/FASM/MASM/ D and a few others.
* - KillαMuvz - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 08:24 AM)Zoom Servers Wrote: If he actually wants to start making products worth a damn. Dependencies which turn many customers off. Also other products such as rats and such have features that can only be done CORRECTLY in C, Delphi, C++, ASM/FASM/MASM/ D and a few others.
What features are those you speak of may I ask?
* - Affluent - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 09:36 AM)KillαMuvz Wrote: What features are those you speak of may I ask?
Rootkit, formgrabber, WI. Basically anything that makes a bot worth while.
* - KillαMuvz - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 09:39 AM)Zoom Servers Wrote: Rootkit, formgrabber, WI. Basically anything that makes a bot worth while.
Anyone that decides to make a bot in C# will (or should) have enough knowledge to make a .dll in a native language to achieve all those features. Sure you need native to achieve those things but it would take the OP a long long time until he can do anything like that. But I agree with you, for those features a native language is definitely necessary.
* - Affluent - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 10:14 AM)KillαMuvz Wrote: Anyone that decides to make a bot in C# will (or should) have enough knowledge to make a .dll in a native language to achieve all those features. Sure you need native to achieve those things but it would take the OP a long long time until he can do anything like that. But I agree with you, for those features a native language is definitely necessary.
Good convo. +1 🤝 ✌
* - Corios - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 09:39 AM)Zoom Servers Wrote: Rootkit, formgrabber, WI. Basically anything that makes a bot worth while.
Every single one of those are possible in C#.
(Feb 23, 2015 10:14 AM)KillαMuvz Wrote: Anyone that decides to make a bot in C# will (or should) have enough knowledge to make a .dll in a native language to achieve all those features. Sure you need native to achieve those things but it would take the OP a long long time until he can do anything like that. But I agree with you, for those features a native language is definitely necessary.
Why? You can do those all in .net so the last statement isn't true, and you only need to know how and why those functions work the way they do, not how to implement them in a native language.
(Feb 23, 2015 08:18 AM)Zoom Servers Wrote: Fake hacking stuff, crypters, brute forcers can all be done via VB.NET or C#. You will not be able to go crazy advanced though.
What do you mean you can't go crazy advanced. The only thing that isn't possible in C# are windows kernel drivers, and that's simply because they don't allow it but a simple bootstrap will let you start it with ease.
(Feb 23, 2015 08:24 AM)Zoom Servers Wrote: If he actually wants to start making products worth a damn. Dependencies which turn many customers off. Also other products such as rats and such have features that can only be done CORRECTLY in C, Delphi, C++, ASM/FASM/MASM/ D and a few others.
people are complete fucking idiots too, so I don't see why that should effect what YOU code in. And what do you mean they can only correctly be done in a native language, do you not understand how anything you mentioned even works?
C/ASM is the best way to go with malware without a doubt, but it's not for ANY reason suggested in this thread.
* - HitSweMan - Feb 23, 2015
You should start with the super basic like .Bat on Windows.
Its extremely simple and can be very useful! If you ar an expert you can do all kind fo things. Everything that you can do on Windows can you do with a simple Notepad. Its a good start mate trust me! Just search around and learn by yourself
* - ᴡᴏʟғғɪᴇ - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 10:58 AM)HitSweMan Wrote: You should start with the super basic like .Bat on Windows.Instead of learning that he can just learn C++, C# or JAVA?
Its extremely simple and can be very useful! If you ar an expert you can do all kind fo things. Everything that you can do on Windows can you do with a simple Notepad. Its a good start mate trust me! Just search around and learn by yourself
Why waste time on batch.
* - Affluent - Feb 23, 2015
(Feb 23, 2015 10:55 AM)Corios Wrote: Every single one of those are possible in C#.
Why? You can do those all in .net so the last statement isn't true, and you only need to know how and why those functions work the way they do, not how to implement them in a native language.
What do you mean you can't go crazy advanced. The only thing that isn't possible in C# are windows kernel drivers, and that's simply because they don't allow it but a simple bootstrap will let you start it with ease.
people are complete fucking idiots too, so I don't see why that should effect what YOU code in. And what do you mean they can only correctly be done in a native language, do you not understand how anything you mentioned even works?
C/ASM is the best way to go with malware without a doubt, but it's not for ANY reason suggested in this thread.
Please make me a working Ring 0 or a working ring 3 that doesnt just hide from tskmngr. Also, make a working formgrabber that grabs chrome ssl too please.