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Scammed by Grievous (Roses) UID= 1754121 and Optimized (Anonymous) UID= 2250372 no.2 - WWWhite - Dec 15, 2015
The username in the time of the scam was Grievous
I have bought their mentoring service of an advanced method of e-whoring here:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5006686 check the 9th page of the thread, they didn't really care about me
Let me quote the thread
Quote:Guaranteed Profit - in the case you are not able to profit you'll receive a full refund + $100.
He was operating it with Optimized (now Anonymous)
They claimed the method will make me earn 500$+/day
It costed a 1000$, we arranged that I pay half upfront, and half later
So I sent 500$ (in bitcoin)
http://prntscr.com/93q6hv
https://blockchain.info/tx/7e62bf9ce806e88446013f778fb968f12ee7e1f3daf4950500d13cc72a53b44e
I can sign the address if necessary
The other half was supposed to be sent via PayPal
His last answer to me on skype was on 21st October (Listopad), so he hasn't answered me for almost a month
https://i.imgur.com/nv0Fy8j.png
On 5th November I sent him a PM over HF
http://prntscr.com/93qbk3
And up to this day (12 days later, he did not accept me on skype nor answered to my new messeges on HF)
http://prntscr.com/93qc0m
![[Image: 8QsSPLu.png]](https://i.imgur.com/8QsSPLu.png)
Optimized did not answer my skype either
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This is a sequel of this thread
Flacko Jodye contacted me and told me he'd repay me fully for the method, if I edit all my posts and in the thread and write
"The user Grievous is paying me back in increments and as of now this dispute is closed until further notice or if any problems may come up in the near future"
The agreement was 80$ right away, then 200$ each week until the full amount is repaid
After the initial 80$ (which were over an unverified PayPal,which got flagged and under review for 24 hours!), I asked for the rest over bitcoin (since that is what I used to pay for method)
His last reply was on 2nd December (14 days ago), I sent him messeges on skype and HF, but no reply at all
Altough he told me he will not ignore me
I have saved the replies he requested to be edited in a notepad file in a case he decides to bail, which he did
* - CRT - Dec 15, 2015
I highly doubt this is legit as Grevious has spent so much $$ this past few days helping members with things including myself. Personally I would trust Grevious more than any staff member.
* - Redwall - Dec 15, 2015
Grevious scamming?
Not sure about this.
* - Seah - Dec 15, 2015
Damn, i hope this gets resolved OP, $500, damn.
* - WWWhite - Dec 15, 2015
He requested me to lock&delete the replies in order to get my money back
Please read the original thread
While adding these posts where it says "The user Grievous is ..."
OP is the same as here.
Post #11
(Nov 17, 2015 05:31 AM)Clarity. Wrote: idk what really happend but if it was so real i'd never remove the ,method lol. 750$ i'd go crazy lol. anyway good luck mate
500 actually, because we arranged to do half upfront
I'm trying to keep calm, since raging will not bring any good to me
I just want my money back
Okay, I was unsure about the rules, but I'll write it again
About the method:
Shitty method, which didn't reveal anything I didn't already know.
I would be fine with that if it actually worked, I was promised to earn 500$+/day but I spent over 10 days working on this method, earning only 150$ which was from unverified paypal accounts, sent as items&services and the PayPal got blocked (I highly suspect it was sent from Roses multiple accounts since it was items&services and I tried the method with a different account/laptop Roses and Anonymous didn't know about, making nothing [unlike the one they knew about])
So basically, after 10 days of "500$+/day", I got 150$ in a limited fake PayPal in items&services.
It was supposed to be 50% auto-pilot, which it wasn't.
I had to make new accounts, e-mails, phone numbers every minute , it was nowhere near auto-pilot.
The worst thing is, I also wasted 10-15 days of my life, , and the time I spent I would use productively (e-whoring if nothing else).
(Nov 17, 2015 05:37 AM)Brahma™ Wrote: Leave a neut with a link to this thread. That's what 'Rules' suggest. Follow the rules and delete your comment of asking people to leave neg reps coz that is not allowed as per HF rules and it might get you in trouble.
Legit scam report and I am not surprised. Long awaited though.
I did not ask, I said I hope :)
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Post #85
(Nov 17, 2015 11:36 AM)Honest Wrote: It's not just that, it's how you use it. You obviously did not use the information effectively
Not true
I even made a video about using the same thing like 4 years ago
The method just combined a couple of things I already knew about and made them into an amazing duo that doesn't make you any money, awesome! 😁
Btw, I literally live from e-whoring, I make around 2000$/month from it, so I'm not some sort of a noob that "doesn't know how to use it".
I know this shit, and this shit is complete shit.
Even if I had absolutely no idea how to use the method, there's still the no-profit money back guarantee!
I tried to be nice, and waited for Griv to answer, which he didn't
But suddeny after this thread, he's alive!
He actually responds to my posts, hmm
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Post #157
(Nov 18, 2015 01:04 AM)Roses Wrote: Not trying to be mean, I haven't gotten an add on my new skype since I told him to add me so there's not much I can do;
Interesting
http://prntscr.com/9451ch
https://i.imgur.com/fIZN1Qg.png
still not accepted He was added on 5th November (Studenog)
I can share my screen over skype, teamview, join.me or anything to prove this
(Nov 18, 2015 01:04 AM)Roses Wrote: As for the PM's it's explainable, I deleted my inbox about 4/5 days before this was even made.
Had roughly 40/50 messages of just spam so I decided to delete it all. It's likely OP's pm was in the bunch, any-who; I'm willing to resolve this of course but I'm not going to refund him as he has the information and I provided him a gold-mine and I'm sure you can see the gold-mine Buffy, such as with the one you gave out. 😉
Inspect Element boy, oh shit, you don't have that on your shitty mud computer. Sorry, forgot.
http://prntscr.com/94500v
5th November isn't 4-5 days before this was made 🙃
(Nov 18, 2015 01:00 AM)Roses Wrote: Much more. Not going to go into detail, but he's only dropped the "public" part so to say, there's much more to it that OP didn't leak.
He's "leaked" the public information; the private information he has not. If he does, that's when I'll be reporting him for leaking.
There is no private part, only the removed maybe, or the description in the removed*? lol
You can easily record that by yourself
Or the art of opening *Removed at once 😁
What's "private"? Tell me through PM
I can't seem to find anything "private" in this method
(Nov 18, 2015 01:01 AM)Aint Giving Up Wrote: Such as the part post 1 told him to remove?
Reposted it later when someone told me I can write it (Unsure about the rules)
Check the next page
(Nov 18, 2015 01:15 AM)Buffy Summers Wrote: Yeah, like I said, anything could be a goldmine.
[img]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r35/ecusuthernbelle/GIFs/tumblr_lhcdtmKeEU1qabcdd.gif[/img]
It just comes down to what lengths you're willing to go.
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@OP, add him on Skype and see how he's willing to work with you. Hopefully he'll help you make the $350 you're still owed.
nope, the 150$ are made from mostly unverified accounts, and sent as items&servies, PP got limited very fast, and Griv offered to lift the limit
I told him he can keep the PP, and just refund me
However, limitation has not been lifted, and interestingly enough, only the PP on removed (he knew about) made sales, while the one on removed made none and *removed is better, and more popular*
The whole method is just making an account on removed*, *removed (a description they gave me) with a link to my sales page on removed*, *removed
There's not really anything you can do wrong
Even the Removed one made more sales when I complained to them, that I'm not making anything lol
(Nov 18, 2015 01:31 AM)Fiddle F?ck??™ Wrote: I can't believe I just read through all 15 pages of this fuck festival. OP, you say you have more information/evidence. Post it.
Rose, you say you have more information/evidence to counter him. Post it. Otherwise, this will go on forever until you both get bored (which will be awhile I presume).
I'm afraid if I post the recording, Griv (Roses) could rape me for "leaking", altough it's all public lol
(Nov 18, 2015 01:56 AM)Buffy Summers Wrote: I think what happened was OP expecting something revolutionary for $1000 and was disappointed with what he got. He could easily make his money back with the method, I think. I'm not 100% sure what it is but if he can make $150 with a shitty pack of pictures, he could probably make more with a convincing pack. Perhaps have a photoshopped proof sign or something with your Badoo user ID. That's convincing. It always increases sales for me, but I never used Badoo and don't know anything about it.
@ Roses
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<3
![[Image: goodnightbitch.gif]](https://nypdecider.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/goodnightbitch.gif)
Nope, I can't easily make my money back with it
It would probably take 30+ days of 4+ hours/day of work
I earned a total of 150$ which got limited
And I'm pretty certain most of these sales came from them
And like more then half of that, was the first day, when I highly suspect Grievous and Optimized were faking sales
As more time passed, the sales decreased, when I complained, they increased again hmm
I worked with 5-6 removed at once, I changed around 50 accounts/day
For a minimum of 4 hours/day, in the cities and times Grievous (Roses) told me, for 10+ days!
I wasted 10 days of my life
And I made 150$
And it was all made on the laptop (account) they knew about, while my other laptop made 0 sales!!
I earned 150$/day e-whoring, removed not only wasted my 500$, but took the 10 days from me in which I would earn ~1500$
(Nov 18, 2015 06:14 AM)Honest Wrote: Just putting this out there, but I have watched 2 livestreams of Grievous make $200 or more in 30 minutes while ewhoring. Unless he is sending money to himself, then I'd say his method does work.
He's probably sending money to himself, but making 200$ in 30 minutes while e-whoring is not that hard at all, every now and then you get to do that
* - Ninetales. - Dec 15, 2015
No, this is legit to an extent.
I remember the original thread.
Anyways, I'm sure he'll resolve it with you.
* - Stashyy - Dec 15, 2015
Well we're seeing proof.
Unless you made contact with an imposter or that was the real grevious.
We'll have to wait for a reply until then. I highly doubt this was the real one though.
* - blocknode - Dec 15, 2015
So far this looks legit. Let's wait for some response.
* - Stoke - Dec 15, 2015
(Dec 15, 2015 06:22 PM)Curt. Wrote: I don't know, Grevious has many $$ so I think OP is confused about this whole thing. Grevious doesn't care about a few hundred dollars.
No, I remember the first thread being legit af.
OT: Just pay the guy back, fucking hell.
* - CRT - Dec 15, 2015
(Dec 15, 2015 06:24 PM)Stoke City Wrote: No, I remember the first thread being legit af.
OT: Just pay the guy back, fucking hell.
Yes and I also remember my boy gravyous paying him back some !
* - funtela - Dec 15, 2015
Omg. I don't even.... like... I got your back OP.
Legit report.
* - Kebabs - Dec 15, 2015
Didn't Optimized make a thread about how Grievous fucked him over ?
* - WWWhite - Dec 15, 2015
(Dec 15, 2015 06:22 PM)Curt. Wrote: Nice warning level you naughty boy you.
I don't know, Grevious has many $$ so I think OP is confused about this whole thing. Grevious doesn't care about a few hundred dollars.
Confused?
He did not reply me for 2 months
And his 'friend' or something, Flacko, did not reply me over 2 weeks after arranging repayment for removing&locking my posts
(Dec 15, 2015 06:23 PM)$tash Wrote: Well we're seeing proof.
Unless you made contact with an imposter or that was the real grevious.
We'll have to wait for a reply until then. I highly doubt this was the real one though.
Are you being serious?
Can you not see the screenshots of his profile sending me messeges where to send the money, matching UID
I can also sign the bitcoin address from which I sent him the money
(Dec 15, 2015 06:25 PM)Curt. Wrote: Yes and I also remember my boy gravyous paying him back some !
So, you say Flacko Joyde is Grivs alt
Along with the unverified PP acc which sent me the flagged, under review 80$
* - eiqhtz - Dec 15, 2015
It's funny that everyone is blinded by Grevious' generosity but a month ago when this was posted, everyone was against Grevious.
Ya niggas fake asf
* - Benjamin Cakelin - Dec 15, 2015
Not surprised, pretty sure he was sold a public method, to ewhore on skype with cam bots lol.