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[Guide] E-whoring the proper way, real profit - Royaltramp - Jul 2, 2010
This is only a short basic guide, if you're already making good money from your victims (by good I mean at the very least $150+ a week, ideally a fair bit more) then you can probably skip this.
Create an identity
Start by creating a basic identity that you will play to your victims, the first thing you need is an image pack, you can find them everywhere, you can even SE the pictures from a girl if you are having trouble finding a pack (though this is unnecessary hassle since there are hundreds of packs on HF alone)
Next you need:
- Name (Full, including a middle name, to make it seem legit, though obviously don't mention the middle or last name unless asked, and seem suspicious if they ask)
- Age (15-19, no older)
- Gender (Usually a girl, but you'd be surprised, there are some girls out there you can get money from)
- Bra size (You're dealing with pedos, estimate/find out the bra size of the girl in the pictures you're using - as the pedos/pervs will usually ask this question at some point and saying you're 36DD when the girl in your pictures is flat-chested isn't going to work out)
- Country
- City/Town (You don't need an actual address, the minute you give out an actual address there's a chance of them busting you and finding out you're not legit if they try and visit - this goes for even if you're in another country as you'd be surprised at how desperate some people are)
- Hobbies (This might sound like a lot, but build up a profile, when you talk to this person each day, tell them about your fake day, tell them how you were shopping and picked out some great new shoes you want to show them, etc)
- Parents (If you're playing a girl in the age range I specify, even if she's 18-19 she can be living with parents, make sure to complain about how you always argue and they never give you any money and it sucks because you can't buy that sexy corset you wanted)
- Paypal (You should make a fake paypal or failing that claim it's your brothers paypal since you're too young if you're < 18)
The Initial Bait
Use the common trick of asking for guys with money in teen chat-rooms, don't act like a whore, just say you'll chat to them and maybe show them a couple (not a whole pack, save that for later) of special pics for a little money.
The Scam
The biggest mistake people make when e-whoring, and the reason there are so many "WOW I GOT $20!!" threads around is that they get the initial scam wrong, don't ask for $50, not $40, not even $20, ask for maybe $5 or something so you can buy your make up, and apologise loads after they give you the money, say you feel really bad for making them help you out.
Since the $5 means very little to them and they get some dirty pictures from you (the pictures you show them before then should be fully clothed and legit) they'll be happy and they'll trust you.
Now here's the hard part, for the next 2-3 weeks at least, sign into MSN/AIM/chosen messenger, and just talk to them, tell them about what you've (supposedly) been doing that day, tell them about the "boy you like" or how your friend is "such a bitch!" - if you REALLY can't think up ideas, just talk to a girl on your msn and re-enact the convo back with the pedo/perv. Reveal little details about yourself, and most importantly, appear interested in them, appear to genuinely like them. Each day put out little hints about how horrible it is living with your parents because they always argue, about a week in say how they wouldn't let you buy the shoes you want - if they offer to pay, which is unlikely, but sometimes happens, tell them "no of course not that'd be a lot to ask".
Now after the 2-3 weeks, when you know each other a little, sign into MSN and act really worried, just be like "help, I have a really big problem, my dad found out about the pics I sent you, now I have to go stay with my friend for a few days" - keep swearing, not directly at them, just at life in general, "fuck, I don't know what to do..", "shit.. I'm getting kicked out and have nowhere to stay", now's where you throw out the real trap, say something like "I know you probably dont have room but.. is there any way I could stay with you for a few weeks? I'd let you see me naked and.. maybe a little more I guess" (be hesitant, being openly slutty sounds more suspicious) - when they agree (if they dont, see "Backup plan" a little further down, yes it took 2-3 weeks to get to this stage but if you know what you're doing this should just be 1 of 100+ people, so it shouldn't matter), say "fuck how am I gonna get to you? 1 sec I'll check flights", look up the price of flights, then get really upset. "Oh god, it's going to cost me $900 to get there, and I only have $135, what am I gonna do? )))):" - now you go for the killer, "hun.. I know this is a lot to ask, I really feel bad for asking this but.. would you be able to give me money to get the ticket?" - then before they can reply "wait.. one thing though. what would you want in return? :\" - wait for them to suggest something dirty, reply with "I guess.." - tell them a paypal/card to send the money to, and boom you're a lot richer. The problem is, most people can't afford this kind of money, however the kind of people that will pay $20 for your 80 images - will definitely be able to afford this. To make the scam look more real remember to add details like the flight times etc and ask them to pick you up from the airport, say "thanks so much!!" and send them a couple of pictures as an "extra reward".
Backup plan
If they don't fall for it, then say it's okay, say you're going to stay with a friend for a few days, go offline for a while (if you use the account for your other victims - which is the most practical way of doing it, then just block that person for a few days), when you come online say it all worked out and you're back with your parents, chat to them for a few days again, then try a couple of micro-payments, ask them if they can pay for the shoes you wanted which are "only $70!" and "i'll take some pictures for you in exchange if you like? (:" - etc, this is back to regular shitty e-whoring profits but it's better than getting nothing from the victim at all.
Additional tips
- When choosing a pack, get the one with the most images possible so if a victim requests specific images there's a good chance it'll have them.
- If you're looking to make more consistent money, borrow a girlfriend's thong or buy a pair - why? Simple as this. If a victim asks for a personal sign in with a bunch of pictures, send them a bunch of dirty pictures etc, then for the sign, write what they want on a bit of paper, and put it next to the thong on your bed - normally they'd be suspicious but since you sent other pictures with it they most likely won't think twice. If you want to get bonus points, buy/borrow a thong the same colour as one seen in some of the girl's pictures.
- Make sure the guy is legit. Remember, scamming works both ways, they could just be some horny 15 year old kid looking for some pictures, make sure they are who they say they are - and that they have money in the first place, the initial $5-10 is a good way of doing this.
- Stick to one style of talking/typing. If you start off typing like this "hi babe u lyk my pics?? xx" then suddenly saying "Hey there hun how are you?" it'll look suspicious - the reverse is true, if you do talk to them with proper spelling and grammar the first time you speak then keep it that way.
- If you're pretending to be a girl, use lots of smileys, ideally lots of those custom really cheesy/crappy ones - especially kiss smileys
- Act dumb when you're getting the money, don't be like "hey this is my paypal, remember to claim and cancel the claim first so I know you wont take the money back", be more like "uh I have my brothers paypal email, the airport site says I can use paypal - will I get arrested for using my brothers one??" or something along those lines
- Stick to your hobbies, if you start off as a girl who loves shopping and gossip, don't be talking about baseball and cars a week later 😝
- A really easy one that makes you a lot more trustworthy and takes very little effort, set your MSN/AIM name to something like "ღ Amy | Single!! ღ" or something, these kind of names are very common with girls, for bonus points use MSN plus to colour the name - if they have MSN plus it'll look like a more realistic name, and if they don't, the annoying c colour tags will make it look realistic anyway.
Anyway, sorry if this doesn't tell you anything new, many of the more experienced people here will already know all this and know to go for larger amounts of money after building up some trust rather than just trying to get a small amount right off the bat. The reason I posted this is because there are so many threads where people are so happy with the fact that they got $10 or $20, and if you can get $10 or $20 from someone, the chances are you can get a lot more - so use that to your advantage, don't settle for less.
Anyway, I hope this helps someone. I'm off to go buy some drugs, peace.
* - Root@Linux - Jul 2, 2010
Great tutorial , worth + rep
10/10 grammar
10/10 quality.
Aprroved by me:)
* - xgh0stx - Jul 2, 2010
thx gonna try this,nice tutorial
* - Royaltramp - Jul 2, 2010
Thanks guys, glad you both like it, and thanks for the rep schwack13. Updated my post, fixed a little mistake (I wrote offline instead of online at one point) and added a few additional tips to the end.
Hope this'll help some people.
* - crossbake - Jul 2, 2010
I only just found this section today & that was an interesting read. One thought I had was when it came to buying the travel ticket, what if they were to say "I'll book it for you, give me your details". Any suggestions on a response to that without it appearing suspicious?
* - Royaltramp - Jul 2, 2010
(Jul 2, 2010 02:48 AM)crossbake Wrote: I only just found this section today & that was an interesting read. One thought I had was when it came to buying the travel ticket, what if they were to say "I'll book it for you, give me your details". Any suggestions on a response to that without it appearing suspicious?
Give them fake details but ask them how they'll get the ticket to you. If they really won't budge then you could ask them to buy a return for 2 weeks later, find a cheap hotel and have yourself an almost free holiday on their behalf. 😝
* - Ben. - Jul 2, 2010
that is a great tut man
10/10
* - Yultoma - Jul 2, 2010
Royaltramp, nice done!!! Really interesting guide. Nice grammar, informative content and a total score of 10/10!!! I would like to plus rep you but, I'm sorry I can't because of being a normal member. ;)
Once again, great share! Oh and a question for you how much money did you made doing this? Any special experience?
(P.S.: Hope you enjoyed your drugs... :p)
* - Braco Asshole - Jul 2, 2010
Great tutorial RoyalTramp I rate it : 10/10.
* - Reputation - Jul 2, 2010
You've just basically posted my thread but in the public section! - Everyone is going to be trying this now and the method will be patched by paedophiles getting more curious D: Noooo!