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$1085 BTC scammed by TheChiеf - [UID=2333286] [Not Resolved] - KɪɴG - Feb 27, 2016
Update on this case!
User profile link: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=2333286
Username: TheChiefCoC [New username: TheChiеf]
UID: 2333286
Story:
I bought 4 Amazon Gift cards off him.
3x$500 - AGC
1x$150 AGC
Total payments I made to him:
$330 in BTC for $500 AGC
$330 in BTC for $500 AGC
$325 in BTC for $500 AGC
$100 for $150 AGC
According to him his cards were legally obtained. He also sent me photos of cards.
I wanted to build PC for myself so that's why I bought that much AGC's off him. Everything went smoothly. Yesterday I got email from Amazon saying:
![[Image: 975fc3c0face0d4af9e21e7876f9679a.png]](https://i.gyazo.com/975fc3c0face0d4af9e21e7876f9679a.png)
I sent him message regarding this and I told him that I will talk with Amazon regarding this. I made new account on Amazon
I went to live chat and also informed him. Live chat representative asked me for my details and told me I will get a call within 24 hours. I got call:
![[Image: mIFeviJ.jpg]](https://i.ipixls.net/mIFeviJ.jpg)
Talked with their representative. I told him I got an email saying my account has been closed because I used invalid gift cards? He replied: Some of the cards that were redeemed on your account was purchased via Fraudulent credit card. I told him I didn't use any fraudulent credit card and stuff but he reply was same. I asked him is there anything that can be done? His reply was simple and clear: Nothing can be done and Never use Amazon again. I asked him If I can talk with a supervisor? He replied: Yes you can but his reply will be same too. I told him okay I want to talk with a supervisor. After trying my best his reply was also same. In last I asked him may I know sir amount of gift cards that caused this? We got 3 fraudulent credit card payments. Each worth $500. I asked him again is there any hope sir? He said no!
They cancelled all my orders and I can't even access my account because they closed me completely.
TheChiefCoC reply on this situation:
![[Image: d10deeed5ec9c3b3dea217678dc19e46.png]](https://i.gyazo.com/d10deeed5ec9c3b3dea217678dc19e46.png)
Another guy who bought card off him: [He used me as MM to deal with this guy]
Spoiler (Click to View)
![[Image: 41fe75b0732c5acecc90b457d1992b3f.png]](https://i.gyazo.com/41fe75b0732c5acecc90b457d1992b3f.png)
![[Image: 09deca4fa9d39c2d7d805f56c40bf51b.png]](https://i.gyazo.com/09deca4fa9d39c2d7d805f56c40bf51b.png)
Payments proof:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7ea11eddbead17efc1c00ea344fb4a85254bad56b59f45dbe00e39e868b6223c
https://blockchain.info/tx/65eb38547158cff1513cc65afb739c8ab07c5399cdc9c1782a7e8076936793bb
https://blockchain.info/tx/e207f10ccadbddac4e164252ae779dec684b012cffb8ad4fa9a674d3b9a14687
https://blockchain.info/tx/760d21811f6d04f336ff53c9661dafa26ad475c5de51fdf46d383028819f1a32
* - HeShotThat - Feb 27, 2016
I work for Amazon in California, and I'll let you know this happens a lot. People claim gift cards that are working yes but the person who buys them charges back or uses stolen credit cards to buy them to only have them cancelled a few days later when the bank cancels the transactions. There is nothing Amazon will do, because you aren't suppose to be doing that in the first place. People get red flagged for tons of shit, no warnings are sent out but it does log in the system. Invalid returns, keep saying you never got an item and all that is logged and will come back to you one day or another so it's best you just not try stuff like that on because trust me you aren't the first nor the last to do it.
Now about the guy, that was a dick move that's why it's hard to trust anyone online these days. I highly recommend not buying gift cards for online shopping from other people because they will come back at you if the other person who you bought it from is lying or using stolen cards to buy those gift cards.
* - sʜᴀʏ - Feb 27, 2016
Sucks that this happened to you King. Lets hope for the best that you get this resolved.
* - Llama™ - Feb 27, 2016
Well, you fucked up. Dick move to scam for $1,085.
* - tim - Feb 27, 2016
As they say, never risk currency exchanging with people on forums.
Especially AGC <-> BTC. It's really dumb. The person selling AGC, might as well buy items from amazon like macbooks, then sell it for 10% less price and make cash that way. They don't cuz they wanna scam. Then with that cash, they could easily get BTC..
ONly do things like btc -> btc or ltc. u know what i mean.
Any unverified currency dealing online is a BIG NO. ESPECIALLY on forums with people who are 13.
* - Hopsin - Feb 27, 2016
I just don't understand why people don't use middleman services.. Pfff
Sorry to hear this OP!
* - william - Feb 27, 2016
This is an insane amount of $ to be scammed of, I'm very sorry to hear this. :/ Hopefully this is resolved!
* - AncientWolf - Feb 27, 2016
Daaamn , my guess you won't get your money back
we can't stop scammer cause they're earning easy money
but you can be more careful 3x 500$ for a guy who has 72 rep ...
Hope you recover ASAP
* - Zoo - Feb 27, 2016
(Feb 27, 2016 01:54 PM)jimmix Wrote: As they say, never risk currency exchanging with people on forums.
Especially AGC <-> BTC. It's really dumb. The person selling AGC, might as well buy items from amazon like macbooks, then sell it for 10% less price and make cash that way. They don't cuz they wanna scam. Then with that cash, they could easily get BTC..
ONly do things like btc -> btc or ltc. u know what i mean.
Any unverified currency dealing online is a BIG NO. ESPECIALLY on forums with people who are 13.
There are 100's of successful exchanges (I guess every week), just because a few of them go wrong doesn't mean that they shouldn't take place at all. You just have to accept the risk when doing any deals that can be reversed in some way
* - SIM-82498 - Feb 27, 2016
(Feb 27, 2016 01:56 PM)Hopsin Wrote: I just don't understand why people don't use middleman services.. Pfff
Sorry to hear this OP!
How would an Middleman help in this situation? I'm almost certain that the MM would've released the funds as soon as OP redeemed the AGC.
* - AncientWolf - Feb 27, 2016
(Feb 27, 2016 02:01 PM)Meerkat. Wrote: There are 100's of successful exchanges (I guess every week), just because a few of them go wrong doesn't mean that they shouldn't take place at all. You just have to accept the risk when doing any deals that can be reversed in some way
maybe few scammers , but the amounts are huge
have you seen grim's thread ? damn they keep going
* - KɪɴG - Feb 27, 2016
(Feb 27, 2016 02:01 PM)Dervie Wrote: How would an Middleman help in this situation? I'm almost certain that the MM would've released the funds as soon as OP redeemed the AGC.
He gave me cards first.
* - SIM-82498 - Feb 27, 2016
Anything Amazon related, I never tend to cut corners. If I do happen to buy AGC, I'm going to need a physical card, I don't care how "trusted" the user is. AGC is rather easy to obtain through fraudulent methods.
(Feb 27, 2016 02:03 PM)KɪɴG Wrote: He gave me cards first.
My reply was in regards to using a middleman. A middleman would have never prevented this from happening.
* - Ace Of Jesus - Feb 27, 2016
Oh wow... scammed for $1000 amazon... damn must sucks bro.
* - eηerg1zer - Feb 27, 2016
Continue scamming like this, and that's a surefire way to get exchanging BTC -> AGC (and the few remaining currencies still allowed) disallowed from HF.
Please, for the sake of HF, take your scamming elsewhere.