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Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - pkdarn - Nov 23, 2020
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." - Edward Snowden
Interested in hearing your thoughts.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - Omniscient - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 12:05 PM)pkdarn Wrote: "Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." - Edward Snowden
Interested in hearing your thoughts.
I think Snowden is right. Privacy from government surveillance is essential. What I don't like about the EU is their GDPR is about corporations. Snowden busted the US Government for what they were doing, not corporations. When your privacy is trampled on by the government you are under tyranny.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - Zeus - Nov 23, 2020
I like snowden he is a good guy watched a few documentaries.
Good work he is done but now he is under the eye.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - TheGoobr - Nov 23, 2020
Obviously snowden is right. 1984 makes this pretty clear.
It's the same as if you lived in a house with your whole family with no doors, because you don't have anything to hide. Privacy is a benefit reaped even without ever needing it fully.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - account_ - Nov 23, 2020
We should have privacy, even if you have nothing to hide, even if you have something to hide, you should be still entitled to have privacy. big brother is watching you, well wants too.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - Forensic - Nov 23, 2020
Just a quote to emphasize privacy is important. Nothing special about it.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - pkdarn - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 12:54 PM)Omniscient Wrote: I think Snowden is right. Privacy from government surveillance is essential. What I don't like about the EU is their GDPR is about corporations. Snowden busted the US Government for what they were doing, not corporations. When your privacy is trampled on by the government you are under tyranny.
Thinking further down this same line of thought, how else might our governments keep us safe without surveillance? Where do you draw the line between keeping citizens safe, and invasion of privacy?
(Nov 23, 2020 12:59 PM)TheGoubr Wrote: Obviously snowden is right. 1984 makes this pretty clear.
It's the same as if you lived in a house with your whole family with no doors, because you don't have anything to hide. Privacy is a benefit reaped even without ever needing it fully.
Just looked up 1984 - are you referring to the book? I'll have to check it out.
I definitely agree with that analogy.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - MarvinMalware - Nov 23, 2020
I firmly agree with this statement, in fact, it's quite important to feel this way in my opinion.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - pkdarn - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 01:08 PM)Forensiccc Wrote: Just a quote to emphasize privacy is important. Nothing special about it.
Do you agree with this quote? Again, from Edward Snowden. "When you say, 'I have nothing to hide,' you're saying, 'I don't care about this right.'"
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - Forensic - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 01:46 PM)pkdarn Wrote: Do you agree with this quote? Again, from Edward Snowden. "When you say, 'I have nothing to hide,' you're saying, 'I don't care about this right.'"
Yeah, I broadly agree. Some people care about privacy some don't. Those that don't do not get to dictate the terms to those that do.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - account_ - Nov 23, 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%3F
Who watches the watchers.
thats the bigger problem at play here.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - pkdarn - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 01:49 PM)account_ Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%3F
Who watches the watchers.
thats the bigger problem at play here.
Quote:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ...It is literally translated as "Who will guard the guards themselves?"
I like this phrase, thanks for the link. Really makes you think about the bigger picture, and how sheltered we are.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - account_ - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 01:59 PM)pkdarn Wrote: I like this phrase, thanks for the link. Really makes you think about the bigger picture, and how sheltered we are.
yes we do, quick question what would you most want in the world?
got a feeling I know what your answer is going to be.
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - pkdarn - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 02:15 PM)account_ Wrote: yes we do, quick question what would you most want in the world?
got a feeling I know what your answer is going to be.
Hmm, that's a pretty broad question. I'd have to think about it for a while; what do you think I would say?
RE: Thoughts on this quote from Edward Snowden? - account_ - Nov 23, 2020
(Nov 23, 2020 02:17 PM)pkdarn Wrote: Hmm, that's a pretty broad question. I'd have to think about it for a while; what do you think I would say?
money, wealth, rich.