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QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Dehyped | 天使 - Jul 3, 2022
Allowing contests that require you to leave a +rating and QL are fucking stupid as shit. It's the HF version of pay-to-win gaming. People are just buying good social standing and that severely undermines the value and credibility of social currency as a system.
Whoa, this guy has a lot of +rep he must be trusted part of the community right? Oh, wait, no, he just did a $50 ETH giveaway.
This should legitimately be removed and be a bannable offense.
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RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Murda_Mook - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 3, 2022 07:57 PM)Dehyped | 天使 Wrote: Allowing contests that require you to leave a +rating and QL are fucking stupid as shit. It's the HF version of pay-to-win gaming. People are just buying good social standing and that severely undermines the value and credibility of social currency as a system.
Whoa, this guy has a lot of +rep he must be trusted part of the community right? Oh, wait, no, he just did a $50 ETH giveaway.
This should legitimately be removed and be a bannable offense.
I agree with you on this, it call rep farming(Havesting)
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Dehyped | 天使 - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 06:58 AM)Murda_Mook Wrote: I agree with you on this, it call rep farming(Havesting)
Exactly. This is a bannable offense on every other forum. Why is it allowed here, one of the stricter online communities I still visit?
Inb4 Omni's response: "We don't do what other forums do blah blah." Not the main argument, see the original post.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - SoulHarvester - Jul 4, 2022
I really miss old school reputation. There was honestly nothing wrong with it. I enjoyed seeing posts linked to the reputations, I enjoyed the context behind every single one. I also enjoyed how serious negative rep would be at the time because it came with context.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Yin Yang - Jul 4, 2022
It’s just not that serious anymore, I agree.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Laughing Man - Jul 4, 2022
The issue the old rep system had was it was even more abused.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Dehyped | 天使 - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 07:29 AM)Laughing Man Wrote: The issue the old rep system had was it was even more abused.
Not really relevant.
No system is perfect, but the current state of reputation basically nullifies its own existence. It needs to be changed.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Laughing Man - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 07:31 AM)Dehyped | 天使 Wrote: Not really relevant.
No system is perfect, but the current state of reputation basically nullifies its own existence. It needs to be changed.
How do you figure, contracts have their own setup which is well done.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Dehyped | 天使 - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 07:37 AM)Laughing Man Wrote: How do you figure, contracts have their own setup which is well done.
Literally read the OP.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Laughing Man - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 07:39 AM)Dehyped | 天使 Wrote: Literally read the OP.
I read it, contracts are how you measure trust, not rep anymore and QL you don't see. It gives an award that's it.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Dehyped | 天使 - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 07:41 AM)Laughing Man Wrote: I read it, contracts are how you measure trustThat's fine as long as they are closed monitored (which they seem to be currently.)
(Jul 4, 2022 07:41 AM)Laughing Man Wrote: not rep anymoreExactly, because it no longer matters, because you can just buy it. Fix the problem -- a VERY EASY FIX -- and it becomes a legitimate part of the site again.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Laughing Man - Jul 4, 2022
Why would Omni want rep over contracts? Popularity just shows how much you interact with someone.
Trust with sales comes from contracts.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Gary - Jul 4, 2022
You're not wrong as someone who was here for the old system. However people should not confuse reputation with popularity. B Rating should be the way to go about it.
RE: QL/POP Contests Are Fucking Stupid - Dehyped | 天使 - Jul 4, 2022
(Jul 4, 2022 07:47 AM)Laughing Man Wrote: Why would Omni want rep over contracts? Popularity just shows how much you interact with someone.
Trust with sales comes from contracts.
I never said rep over contracts, my dude. This thread ain't about contracts it's about the glaring issue with the popularity system. It's real simple, I don't know why you keep shoving contracts into the middle. Popularity system has a problem that basically makes it redundant. If a system is redundant, by definition, there is no need for it. This leaves us with two logical courses of action: BAN buying rep/QL through "Giveaways" or remove the system altogether. The former is a 5 minute fix. That's all I'm suggesting.
Not to mention if someone has low contracts because they're just beginning their marketplace interactions what do you think is the next metric someone will use to gauge how trustworthy someone is? Probably reputation because post count is completely irrelevant.