(Nov 29, 2024 09:23 AM)aerohacker Wrote:  How much I could miner per month using 10 gaming computers with CPU i9 14900 + GPU RTX 4090?!

Let's says these PCs running 8 hours per day and configure the miner to use 30% of the resources.

What is the best free miner CPU and GPU and can I use part of the power?! And how much % of the machine's resources would be fine?! Because using full power make the suspect that something is wrong with the computer.

My intention would be miner something like $5 a day ~ $150 per month.

(Nov 29, 2024 08:15 PM)aerohacker Wrote:  My intention is to miner for myself and don't need to buy from third parties and that require documents and etc...

Using 10 computers with this specs and running 6 hours per day ~ $120 in mouth?!

I know that mining is very relative and has a lot of variables and etc... but I just to have a general idea, then my idea would be this:

Only using powerfull machines with specs like this:

- CPU - Intel i7 or i9 or AMD Ryzen 7 or 9
- GPU - Nvidia 3xxx or 4xxx or Radeon 7xxx
- SSD - NVME Gen3, Gen4 or Gen5
- RAM - DDR4 or DDR5 above 32 GB RAM

But the goal is the best gaming PC specs with i9 14900 + RTX 4090

1) What is the best free and anonymous wallet to hold my bitcoins or this is dont' matter?!

2) What is the best free and paid miners CPU and GPU?!

3) Can I configure the miner how much I want to use resources from CPU and GPU?! I don't want to use 100% and make user suspect that there is something wrong, and using 30% will not affect the performance of the system that much, because even intense use or playing, never reaches 100% use.

(Nov 29, 2024 11:42 AM)DramaKing Wrote:  About $31 USD max in a week. I calculate it on a weekly basis because that's all you're likely to get out of a bot.

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You're also about 2 years' late for GPU mining. The miners have largely dumped their GPUs. I know that you intend to steal hardware use, but the mining heyday is still gone.

(Dec 14, 2024 05:57 AM)aerohacker Wrote:  Buy a Botshop with 1000 installs would be a faster and cheaper alternative to mine bitcoins quickly?!

(Dec 14, 2024 06:32 AM)DramaKing Wrote:  Depends on the profit margin. You need to calculate the amount of crypto mined per hour based on hardware and usage percent, likely uptime of the bots, whether you want them to mine while idle or not, FUD time, etc.

(Dec 14, 2024 11:35 AM)aerohacker Wrote:  I know there are several variables, because not all bots will be online at the same time and spend the same amount of hours, but let's suppose that mining something around 10 dollars a day in 1 month to get about 300 dollars, would be good to start.

The idea would be:

- Buy a Botshop with 1k installs
- Use a Loader to hold on installs
- Use a RAT to control the installs
- Use a Silent Miner to gain bitcoins

(Nov 29, 2024 08:15 PM)aerohacker Wrote:  My intention is to miner for myself and don't need to buy from third parties and that require documents and etc...

Using 10 computers with this specs and running 6 hours per day ~ $120 in mouth?!

I know that mining is very relative and has a lot of variables and etc... but I just to have a general idea, then my idea would be this:

Only using powerfull machines with specs like this:

- CPU - Intel i7 or i9 or AMD Ryzen 7 or 9
- GPU - Nvidia 3xxx or 4xxx or Radeon 7xxx
- SSD - NVME Gen3, Gen4 or Gen5
- RAM - DDR4 or DDR5 above 32 GB RAM

But the goal is the best gaming PC specs with i9 14900 + RTX 4090

1) What is the best free and anonymous wallet to hold my bitcoins or this is dont' matter?!

2) What is the best free and paid miners CPU and GPU?!

3) Can I configure the miner how much I want to use resources from CPU and GPU?! I don't want to use 100% and make user suspect that there is something wrong, and using 30% will not affect the performance of the system that much, because even intense use or playing, never reaches 100% use.

(Dec 14, 2024 12:49 PM)Alcinzal Wrote:  1) You can use any wallet you wish. I recommend hardware wallets like Trezor or Ledger, but these cost money. Bitcoin is traceable so even if the wallet is "anonymous", anyone can still see where your bitcoin came from, and where they go if you choose to send them somewhere.

2) Since you wish to limit the CPU and GPU usage, Unam's SilentCryptoMiner would be the best. It is free and open source, sadly the Github repository got taken down, but you can still download it from that comment I linked.

3) Yes, you can choose to make the miner only work at 30%, and then go up to 100% if the user is AFK/idle. You can also make the miner turn itself off whenever a program opens, like task manager, process hacker, etc.

Mining Bitcoin directly is not recommended, it is not profitable at all. I would recommend these:
GPU:
Ravencoin - RVN (minimum 4.773GB VRAM)
Ethereum Classic - ETC (minimum 3.766GB VRAM)

CPU:
Zephyr - ZEPH
Monero - XMR

However pools like 2miners.com allow you to mine RVN, ETC and others directly to your Bitcoin address, this means you aren't mining Bitcoin, you are simply mining RVN/ETC, and the pool converts your earnings to BTC and sends it to you. There is a little fee to this though.

At the moment I have 300-400 GPU miners (they mine RVN), and they make me around $30-40 a day.

(Dec 14, 2024 01:25 PM)7 Wrote:  Seems a lot of effort no? Unless your mass spreading

(Dec 14, 2024 11:35 AM)aerohacker Wrote:  I know there are several variables, because not all bots will be online at the same time and spend the same amount of hours, but let's suppose that mining something around 10 dollars a day in 1 month to get about 300 dollars, would be good to start.

The idea would be:

- Buy a Botshop with 1k installs
- Use a Loader to hold on installs
- Use a RAT to control the installs
- Use a Silent Miner to gain bitcoins

(Dec 14, 2024 02:44 PM)Alcinzal Wrote:  It works best if you get a lot of traffic on auto-pilot. Manually spreading around to get more miners is not ideal, that would be a lot of effort. However as you said, mass spreading makes it worth it.

I must also note that those 300-400 miners have different configurations, as I am testing out which is most profitable (what to mine, how much to mine when active, how much to mine when idle, etc). With the best settings/configs I think I could do around $60-70 with them.

The positive thing with mining is that if you have good persistence, one miner can mine for you for months, until the user factory resets. So if you spread around and get 500 miners you will make around $6-9k total the next 6 months, even if your spreading method stops working. And that is only with 500 miners, I know people who get 500 new miners every day.

(Dec 14, 2024 03:01 PM)DramaKing Wrote:  You buy bots from botshops to be clear.

Loaders load your payloads. They don't block AV detection, user deletion, or factory resets.

A RAT will just increase your detection surface.

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I've had miner(s) that maintained persistence for months or were never detected, but that was because I pwned the antivirus. Unisigned/unseen executables get submitted for analysis, and eventually signatures get pushed out.

(Dec 14, 2024 02:44 PM)Alcinzal Wrote:  It works best if you get a lot of traffic on auto-pilot. Manually spreading around to get more miners is not ideal, that would be a lot of effort. However as you said, mass spreading makes it worth it.

I must also note that those 300-400 miners have different configurations, as I am testing out which is most profitable (what to mine, how much to mine when active, how much to mine when idle, etc). With the best settings/configs I think I could do around $60-70 with them.

The positive thing with mining is that if you have good persistence, one miner can mine for you for months, until the user factory resets. So if you spread around and get 500 miners you will make around $6-9k total the next 6 months, even if your spreading method stops working. And that is only with 500 miners, I know people who get 500 new miners every day.

(Dec 15, 2024 10:12 AM)aerohacker Wrote:  The RAT part would be just for that, use a FUD server and with a feature to add C:\ to Windows Defender exclusions and for people who use other AntiVirus, I would use HVNC and add C:\ to the exclusions.

Most people rarely update and scan their AntiVirus, even rarer are those who mess in the AntiVirus settings.