(May 11, 2025 12:51 AM)The Joker Wrote:  Hi folks!

I've bought tickets to lotteries here. I have won a few and lost in some.

But, what I had noticed is, these lotteries are being exploited by some by increasing the odds in their favour thereby gaining undue advantage.

• Example, let's say there's a lottery with 1 Byte entry and unlimited tickets per person.
  
  


• If 100 users buy 10 tickets each, the lottery pool becomes 1000 Bytes and everyone has equal chances of winning. If a few minutes before it ends, someone buys 4000 tickets, the total prize becomes 5000 Bytes.
  
  


• But the probability of the person with 4000 Tickets is 80% and each of the users with 10 tickets will have a 0.2% probability of winning the lottery.
  

This isn't fair and shouldn't be this way. This maybe one of the reasons why it hasn't been welcomed as it should be.

I have started a lottery where max tickets an user can buy is capped at 1. Cost per ticket is 1000 and if 10 people buy a ticket each, they all have an equal 10% chance of winning the 10,000 prize. Just pure luck.

I have named it Fair Lottery as it is fair and ends in a week (May 18, 2025). Get your ticket to see if you're lucky enough to win!

CLICK HERE - FAIR Lottery - Only 1 ticket per user

Wishing good luck to all participants!

• Current Problem: When users can see how many tickets others have, wealthier users (with more "bytes" or in-game currency) can easily outbid smaller players by just buying more tickets. That discourages fair play and makes the system favor the rich.
  
  


• Hiding Ticket Counts: If ticket counts are hidden, it introduces uncertainty. Now, a wealthier player doesn’t know how much they need to outbid others, which levels the playing field. It adds a layer of strategy and fairness.
  

(May 18, 2025 12:27 AM)M1MON Wrote:  I saw this Thread and immediately checked out the lottery game. I think we could make it a bit fairer for everyone if the number of tickets each participant has is hidden. The reason this lottery can be exploited is because users can see how many tickets others have, so someone with more bytes can just outbid them by doubling their bet.


Here's why it makes sense to hide the tickets of participants:

• Current Problem: When users can see how many tickets others have, wealthier users (with more "bytes" or in-game currency) can easily outbid smaller players by just buying more tickets. That discourages fair play and makes the system favor the rich.
  
  
  


• Hiding Ticket Counts: If ticket counts are hidden, it introduces uncertainty. Now, a wealthier player doesn’t know how much they need to outbid others, which levels the playing field. It adds a layer of strategy and fairness.
  

(May 18, 2025 12:37 AM)ᴨᴜᴌᴌ Wrote:  Solid plan actually. Just show the users share in the amount of tickets. Problem is, if the bytes per ticket is displayed and the pot is displayed, a user could then determine the amount of tickets.

(May 18, 2025 01:13 AM)M1MON Wrote:  I think just hiding the amount of tickets each participant has makes it much harder to exploit. A participant can see how many tickets they bought, but they shouldn’t be able to see how many tickets other participants bought. That way, even if they try to calculate or estimate using the bytes per ticket and the pot, they still won’t know the exact number of tickets they need to buy to double their chances of winning. Also, we could change the number of entries displayed to show the total number of participants, not the total number of tickets bought. How about that? I think it would be much harder to calculate then, right?

(May 18, 2025 08:56 AM)Omniscient Wrote:  Is snipping lotteries a real problem? And I don't see why a lottery seller can't just set a Max Tickets per member to something reasonable if they deem this an issue.

(May 18, 2025 08:56 AM)Omniscient Wrote:  Is snipping lotteries a real problem? And I don't see why a lottery seller can't just set a Max Tickets per member to something reasonable if they deem this an issue.

(May 18, 2025 08:56 AM)Omniscient Wrote:  Is snipping lotteries a real problem? And I don't see why a lottery seller can't just set a Max Tickets per member to something reasonable if they deem this an issue.

(May 20, 2025 12:37 AM)The Joker Wrote:  Well, having my thread quoted entirely in another actually makes me happy!


But, lottery is just a fun quotient here. Would be better if the starter sets limit accordingly instead of the Admin having to change the codes.

(May 20, 2025 02:31 AM)Cooligan Wrote:  No I wouldn't say so. I check lotteries often and participate in decent sized Bytes ones when I see them, but I've never seen anyone complain about "lotto sniping" in Convo, the Lounge, or anywhere else.


I've always thought the Max Ticket amount was the way to ensure a fair lottery. In fact, I can recount multiple lotteries where the host specifically stated they set it to a certain amount to ensure fairness.

(May 18, 2025 11:27 AM)ᴨᴜᴌᴌ Wrote:  There are a few members around that think the current lottery implementation is skewed a little. I would be lying if I myself did not consider sniping a lottery.

(May 20, 2025 08:04 AM)Cooligan Wrote:  You've had actual conversations with other members about how the lottery system is "skewed"?