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Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Omniscient - Feb 24, 2026
I feel this is Crypto discussion more than anything else. Mainly it's the possible issue with why the market has been tumbling.
I think the spread of this email in the Epstein files along with FUD that Bitcoin is really Mossad is absurd.
My actual X response to that post is this...
Nope.
1. The email proves that Bitcoin was already existing and thriving. It's dated 2015.
2. Email also proves that the "control" was over developers, people, not the actual protocol or Bitcoin itself.
3. It's all open-source and whatever control you think they have on the devs is meaningless because the community votes with mining on what is implemented.
4. Show me the BIP that you think Israel took control over Bitcoin.
Let's try to keep the discussion more focused and not get out of hand with politics.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - SUI-3183372 - Feb 24, 2026
Agree with all 4 of your points.
1. 2015 would have been too late for an intricate psyop to be pulling all of the string.
2. Agree with what you said, but also 2015/16 was also around the time that Blockstream emerged as the core developer group for Bitcoin, the 3 devs mentioned who joined Media Group very quickly lost influence and faded. Gavin resigned in 2014, passed the torch to Wladimir, and has lost a lot of respect in the space since then. Wladimir, a talented dev, was an awful leader, and never had much influence on the project. He was also generally aligned with Blockstream. Cory Fields is still involved but largely not influential (Unless I live under a rock and simply haven't heard much coming from him). Arguments can be made that Epstein was involved with names from Blockstream as well, but afaik Blockstream returned Epstein's investment as they were not comfortable dealing with him. Greg Maxwell has some correspondence with him but it seemed inconsequential.
3. Agree
4. +1
I am curious how chummy Epstein and Brock Pierce may have been. Brock Pierce is the reason why I resigned from the Bitcoin Foundation upon them bringing him on board as a director (I say "resign" loosely, I had a low paying contract on their "education committee" team)
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Omniscient - Feb 24, 2026
April 25th, 2015 BTC price was $230. While today that might sound like BTC was super cheap. For many it was already "too expensive".
It was in Dec 2013 when BTC hit $1200. So Bitcoin was declared "dead" by many. Just imagine same ratio $1200 ->120k and then BTC hits $230->23k. Sort of a side topic about how low BTC can drop in the market but imho I'm trying to create perspective on the times when that email was sent. People thought Bitcoin was over (as some do now).
Epstein was just trying to buy influence. A clear pattern in his life.
You want to be really concerned. This might alarm you..Epstein (Mossad imho) shows interest in BTC devs in April. It's 3 months later that Ethereum Network goes live. October 2016 Zcash goes live.
Note that Monero was a year before this email in April 2014.
I think timelines and perspective are very important to analyze properly how this played out. I have zero trust in Zcash now and full trust in Monero. Bitcoin, sure you can argue that Epstein had some influence, but show me what he did with it. Because sounds to me like he basically failed at obtaining any level of a control over a decentralized asset and if there is any conspiracy, I'd look to the chains which came after.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - SUI-3183372 - Feb 24, 2026
(Feb 24, 2026 01:33 PM)Omniscient Wrote: You want to be really concerned. This might alarm you..Epstein (Mossad imho) shows interest in BTC devs in April. It's 3 months later that Ethereum Network goes live. October 2016 Zcash goes live.
Epstein's investments into Blockstream were returned to him due to investments in competing ventures. Fellow Blockstream investors weren't happy that he was funding competing workstreams, Stellar stands out as one of those names. I forget what else they weren't happy about.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Omniscient - Feb 24, 2026
(Feb 24, 2026 01:55 PM)SUI-3183372 Wrote: Epstein's investments into Blockstream were returned to him due to investments in competing ventures. Fellow Blockstream investors weren't happy that he was funding competing workstreams, Stellar stands out as one of those names. I forget what else they weren't happy about.
Epstein seems to have touched everything in society, does that mean everything is tainted? I don't prescribe to that thinking because it doesn't show context. Example is someone's name is in an Epstein email. Does that mean they went to Pedo Island? Does that mean that they were cannibals eating children? There are plenty of names in the files because Epstein had his fingers in everyone's pie. He was rejected by a lot of people. While others absolutely embraced him.
AI Quote: There’s no verified, official count of who visited Little Saint James the most outside of Jeffrey Epstein himself — and public information on this is extremely limited and often comes from court documents, flight logs, or media reporting rather than a definitive official tally. But based on available reporting and records, some of the people most frequently associated with visits include:
### 📍 People Reportedly Linked to Multiple Visits
(Important: Being listed as a visitor does not imply criminality or wrongdoing — many have denied visiting, and documentation is incomplete.*)
🔹 Prince Andrew
Former flight records and reporting indicate he flew with Epstein and was on the island several times in the late 1990s and early 2000s. ([The Sun][1])
🔹 Ehud Barak
According to leaked scheduling records, Barak visited the island and other Epstein properties multiple times, possibly around 30 visits between 2013 and 2017, including at least one confirmed trip to Little Saint James. ([Wikipedia][2])
🔹 Howard Lutnick
Lutnick, a U.S. government official, confirmed a visit to the island in 2012 with his family, though publicly has minimized his relationship with Epstein. ([TIME][3])
🔹 Other Individuals Known to Have Visited at Least Once:
Billionaire Leslie Wexner — visited once with family. ([Reuters][4])
Tech figures like Sergey Brin and Anne Wojcicki reportedly visited in 2007. ([Wikipedia][5]) Other executives such as Reid Hoffman and Joi Ito are listed in records as visiting. ([Wikipedia][5])
Jes Staley is also reported to have visited. ([Wikipedia][5])
### 📌 Important Clarifications
No authoritative list from law enforcement has been publicly released detailing *every visitor or ranking them by visit count. Sentinel claims about specific numbers (e.g., “Clinton visited 28 times”) have been debunked or lack clear evidence from flight logs. ([FactCheck.org][6])
Being on a flight manifest or mentioned in documents does not necessarily confirm an island visit — flight logs show movements, not specific shore landings.
### 🧠 Summary
From what can be gleaned publicly:
The person with the most documented reported visits outside Epstein himself appears to be Ehud Barak, with multiple recorded trips (possibly around 30). ([Wikipedia][2])
Prince Andrew is one of the more frequently mentioned high-profile visitors. ([The Sun][1]) Others (Wexner, Lutnick, Brin, Hoffman, Ito, Staley) are cited as visitors at least once each. ([Reuters][4])
Again, documentation is incomplete, and many public figures have strongly denied certain claims — so what’s *reported isn’t necessarily confirmed.
If you’d like, I can also share publicly known flight log figures for some of these individuals (with caveats about accuracy).
[1]: https://www.the-sun.com/news/15961447/epstein-lolita-express-andrew-model-pilot-miss-russia-probe/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "On board Epstein's 'Lolita Express' at heart of Andrew probe - with model pilot & where ex-prince flew with Miss Russia"
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehud_Barak?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Ehud Barak"
[3]: https://time.com/7377466/epstein-files-secretary-howard-lutnick-island-visit/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "U.S. Commerce Secretary Confirms He Visited Epstein's Island Years After He Said He'd Cut Ties"
[4]: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/billionaire-wexner-says-he-visited-epsteins-island-denies-knowledge-financiers-2026-02-19/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Billionaire Wexner says he visited Epstein's island but denies knowledge of financier's crimes"
[5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Little Saint James"
[6]: https://www.factcheck.org/2025/08/trump-offers-no-evidence-for-claim-about-bill-clinton-and-epstein-island/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Trump Offers No Evidence for Claim About Bill Clinton and ..."
We should be more concerned about Google (Sergei was on the island) than Bitcoin imho.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - SUI-3183372 - Feb 24, 2026
(Feb 24, 2026 02:02 PM)Omniscient Wrote: Epstein seems to have touched everything in society, does that mean everything is tainted?Nope, and I'm getting sick of the people who keep shouting "Did you see that singular benign email between Epstein and <insert name>? That must mean Epstein controlled <insert name> and whatever <insert name> was working on!" Have had far too many people in my inbox lately taking that stance.
Agree with the rest of what you said, Epstein was a world renowned financier alongside all of the evil shit that he did. I'd be hard pressed to believe that everything that he did was in pursuit of evil, it's more likely the majority of his correspondences and dealings were legitimate, and that you need to dig beneath the surface to step into his world of atrocities.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - jaytench - Feb 24, 2026
Tell me you don't understand Bitcoin without telling me you don't understand it.
It really doesn't matter if the prophet Mohamed invented it, study it and you'll realise why it doesn't matter.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Cooligan - Feb 25, 2026
No matter what's stated in the email, I was personally using Bitcoin long before 2015 and specifically remember Israel trying to curb any and all use of it due to them cracking down on internet related money laundering at the time (supposedly).
Not to mention, back in the early days of Bitcoin, most mainstream exchanges were hosted in either the US or other Western-policy-backed countries along with swap sites, and the "anonymous" ones were almost always hosted in either Switzerland or the Netherlands back then, and sometimes (rare then, common now) some would use Icelandic hosting (the best for true anonymity and security imo).
I can't recall one single exchange, swap site, or trading site that was hosted in Israel or that had any ties to it.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Undead - Feb 25, 2026
I'm calling BS on this. The "Epstein files" are sketchy AF. Why should you believe anything that's "leaked" by governments or spooks. It smells of a PSYOP to me. I'm seeing a coordinated effort from multiple sides to destroy bitcoin. One of those is the whole Gold/Silver brigade who see BTC as a threat to their grift.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Mewtwo - Feb 25, 2026
Jeffrey is still alive and well, living in Israel. He might be Satoshi Nakamoto all along… not saying he coded and created BTC, but maybe he had a group of elites who invented it. Dude was hanging out with Stephen Hawking. A lot of smart people in his circle. He was really into privacy and hiding his criminal activity. Maybe he used Bitcoin as a way to extort the elites of their finances for the crimes they committed while being in that island.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Costanza - Feb 25, 2026
(Feb 25, 2026 03:44 AM)Mewtwo Wrote: Jeffrey is still alive and well, living in Israel. He might be Satoshi Nakamoto all along… not saying he coded and created BTC, but maybe he had a group of elites who invented it. Dude was hanging out with Stephen Hawking. A lot of smart people in his circle. He was really into privacy and hiding his criminal activity. Maybe he used Bitcoin as a way to extort the elites of their finances for the crimes they committed while being in that island.
My counter argument to people saying he is still alive , why the fuck would they keep him alive lol he has dirt on most of the elites , killing him in prison is the easiest way out.
RE: Bitcoin Controlled by Israel (Epstein Files) - Omniscient - Feb 25, 2026
(Feb 25, 2026 11:57 AM)Costanza Wrote: My counter argument to people saying he is still alive , why the fuck would they keep him alive lol he has dirt on most of the elites , killing him in prison is the easiest way out.
Here is the problem with killing your own guy high in the order. Everyone involved with think they are next and people might start to talk. By allowing him to live, saving him, the insiders know they are protected.
But imho it can go either way. Maybe dead, maybe alive. Not shocked by either. What's certainly not true...the official story he killed himself. I mean, that's still the actual official story is that this guy killed himself in his cell. Nobody F'n believes that, but it's still the story.