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Do PM's count as on-site proof for scams? - ThisIsMyAccount - Mar 15, 2014
I received a PM from a user who offered to buy my DOGE for BTC.
For now, I won't say who, but he had multiple scam reports on him. He admitted that he did scam them. Is this sufficient proof to have his account closed? I do know staff does not get involved with reports, but in the help documents, it says staff will ban a member if there is on-site evidence. Admitting to is even better.
I can only assume he was attempting to scam me, since he did not want to use a MM (horrible excuse, but not sufficient proof to call it a scam attempt).
https://hackforums.net/misc.php?action=help&hid=15
"Our staff on occasion will ban a scammer, if the evidence is on site and apparent"
Who exactly would I PM regarding this?
EDIT: Thanks for the help, posted a community alert. https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4117419
* - Androctonus - Mar 15, 2014
It's sufficient proof of a scam but it wont necessarily result in a ban. But definitely use the screenshot in your deal dispute. It will significantly help other users.
* - RDCA - Mar 15, 2014
No one. Don't PM staff nor anyone from administration. However, it is valid proof, but Hack Forums does not get involved in deal disputes like you want.
* - wellager - Mar 15, 2014
If PMs don't count as on-site proof, then what is on-site proof? Of course it's on-site proof. If he admits to scamming he will get his account closed.
Make a community alert is my best advice.
* - ThisIsMyAccount - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:21 PM)Androctonus Wrote: It's sufficient proof of a scam but it wont necessarily result in a ban. But definitely use the screenshot in your deal dispute. It will significantly help other users.
I was not scammed, but he admitted to scamming others. I can only assume he was attempting to scam me.
* - VladHQ - Mar 15, 2014
Well, don't PM anyone. Don't PM Omniscient, because he said he will close anyone's account who sends him a PM. Just make a report in the Deal Disputes section, and just make sure to make a noticeable title, and maybe it will get Omniscient's attention. Good luck!
* - Pillows - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:22 PM)VladHQ Wrote: Well, don't PM anyone. Don't PM Omniscient, because he said he will close anyone's account who sends him a PM. Just make a report in the Deal Disputes section, and just make sure to make a noticeable title, and maybe it will get Omniscient's attention. Good luck!
Well if that was true my account would closed multiple times already.
I'd also suggest putting out a community alert with his UID in the title too.
* - ThisIsMyAccount - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:22 PM)Black Soul Wrote: If PMs don't count as on-site proof, then what is on-site proof? Of course it's on-site proof. If he admits to scamming he will get his account closed.
Make a community alert is my best advice.
I know PM's are on-site, but that's not exactly what I meant. I was just wondering if ONLY pm's count as enough on-site proof for a ban. I guess I didn't word it properly.
* - Little Johnny - Mar 15, 2014
Yes to answer your question they do count as on site proof as its on site lmao
* - Androctonus - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:22 PM)ThisIsMyAccount Wrote: I was not scammed, but he admitted to scamming others. I can only assume he was attempting to scam me.
Ah ok. Well you should make a Community Alert anyway and use the PM so people can have a solid reason to not deal with him.
* - wellager - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:24 PM)ThisIsMyAccount Wrote: I know PM's are on-site, but that's not exactly what I meant. I was just wondering if ONLY pm's count as enough on-site proof for a ban. I guess I didn't word it properly.
Posts could be considered as on-site proof for scams too, but the main on-site proof was, is and will always be PMs.
* - Ifinger - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:21 PM)Androctonus Wrote: It's sufficient proof of a scam but it wont necessarily result in a ban. But definitely use the screenshot in your deal dispute. It will significantly help other users.
if the scammer admits to scamming they get closed.
* - Androctonus - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:27 PM)Ifinger Wrote: if the scammer admits to scamming they get closed.
Yep that's often the case. Go get that scammer, OP!
* - ThisIsMyAccount - Mar 15, 2014
(Mar 15, 2014 10:32 PM)Androctonus Wrote: Yep that's often the case. Go get that scammer, OP!
Posted a community alert, since a deal dispute wouldn't be valid in my case. https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4117419