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Do master hackers use premade tools? - Almaa - May 16, 2019
I’m a begginer hacker and want to be a master one day. My question s do the hackers that steal millions of credit card and personal info, and break into companies system, use stuff like Kali Linux. Or do they use 100% their own tools? So should I bother learning Kali?
Other question.
I’m interested in exploit development but not exactly sure how it works. So when your making a exploit are you exploiting Linux it’s self, or something unique to the system that your hacking?
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Armani24 - May 16, 2019
You seem to not know anything about what you are saying. People have various ways of carrying out attacks, and Linux is one of the more favorites operating systems by Hackers because of the tools available for Linux, however most people obtain data by breaching databases and downloading the data that why through vulnerabilities on a system. Learning Kali right off the bat wouldn't make much sense to you, start with actually learning attack methods and how they work before moving on to Linux since you are probably more use to a graphical UI than CLI. And yes, some people do use public tools since they exploit well known vulns however most of the vulns are known and patched/mitigated in some way, which is why people use private techniques for carrying out their attacks. You need more insight on how things work before learning to attack them.
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Omniscient - May 16, 2019
I think someone stealing millions in credit cards doesn't have enough integrity to care about what they use.
Don't mistake criminals for hackers.
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Stoner - May 16, 2019
(May 16, 2019 12:37 PM)Armani24 Wrote: You seem to not know anything about what you are saying. People have various ways of carrying out attacks, and Linux is one of the more favorites operating systems by Hackers because of the tools available for Linux, however most people obtain data by breaching databases and downloading the data that why through vulnerabilities on a system. Learning Kali right off the bat wouldn't make much sense to you, start with actually learning attack methods and how they work before moving on to Linux since you are probably more use to a graphical UI than CLI. And yes, some people do use public tools since they exploit well known vulns however most of the vulns are known and patched/mitigated in some way, which is why people use private techniques for carrying out their attacks. You need more insight on how things work before learning to attack them.
Is there any reason why kali is so popular amongst hackers? What would give a Linux user advantage when compared to say a Windows user
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Almaa - May 16, 2019
Ok thanks for the help. But how would I go about finding unknown vulnerabilities when I know enough to? And I’m still wondering about my 2nd question.
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Riddick - May 16, 2019
Hackers are the ones that create the tools you mentioned.
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Almaa - May 16, 2019
Ok thanks for the help with the noob questions.you mentioned about learning about the attack’s first. There are tons of tools, what would be a good place to learn? I’m also talking about flaws like zero day. It’s going to take me years to be able to do that but how are they found? Like I said if your hacking a company would you try and find a flaw in the companies servers them self’s?
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Armani24 - May 16, 2019
(May 16, 2019 02:20 PM)Zombie Wrote: Is there any reason why kali is so popular amongst hackers? What would give a Linux user advantage when compared to say a Windows user
Because computers started at the command line and those who made the tools typically grew up with that. It gives you more control over what you do and can go beyond some of the limitations that Windows users face. Kali is a distro specifically designed for penetration testing/ethical hacking. It's a compilation of popular tools available mostly on Linux and some windows combined with a Debian linux distro. It's like having something being dedicated for one task and being good at it, instead of being spread out if that makes any sense
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - tux1 - May 17, 2019
(May 16, 2019 06:55 AM)Almaa Wrote: I’m a begginer hacker and want to be a master one day. My question s do the hackers that steal millions of credit card and personal info, and break into companies system, use stuff like Kali Linux. Or do they use 100% their own tools? So should I bother learning Kali?
Other question.
I’m interested in exploit development but not exactly sure how it works. So when your making a exploit are you exploiting Linux it’s self, or something unique to the system that your hacking?
A lot of these hacks you hear about in the news are actually often not massively sophisticated and use premade tools. A few years ago there was this group called [censored] who breached a bunch of sites and in reality they were using a lot of simple exploits and already made tools to do a lot of it.
If you want to be a really skilled hacker then yes you will make your own tools as it will help you to automate things and make your life easier. But don't be afraid to use tools like Kali etc because they are very good and you don't need to reinvent the wheel!
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - 4158996621556 - May 17, 2019
(May 16, 2019 02:15 PM)Omniscient Wrote: I think someone stealing millions in credit cards doesn't have enough integrity to care about what they use.
Don't mistake criminals for hackers.
throwback to this amazing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Chp12sEnWk
whole story is INCREDIBLE. HUUUUUUUUUUGE criminal....if u watch the vid you'll know how STUPID he was....his password was literally Butthole123, in russian. what? bruh
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Coooool - May 17, 2019
(May 17, 2019 12:18 PM)HackingDoge Wrote: throwback to this amazing video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Chp12sEnWk
whole story is INCREDIBLE. HUUUUUUUUUUGE criminal....if u watch the vid you'll know how STUPID he was....his password was literally Butthole123, in russian. what? bruh
Thanks for the vid, great watch. That man was an absolute idiot
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Almaa - May 17, 2019
Good video! Loved if. That man wasn’t really that smart.
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Bacardi Cola Lime - May 17, 2019
Most of the times, you don’t need to reinvent the wheel, you just use it. And this applies in many ways, such as coding and hacking. If you can do what you need to do with what’s available, then you’re good to go. If not, make it yourself!
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Pawnhub - May 17, 2019
(May 16, 2019 02:20 PM)Zombie Wrote: Is there any reason why kali is so popular amongst hackers? What would give a Linux user advantage when compared to say a Windows user
Less resource consumption, Kali comes with tools you won't find for windows, or will work on + everything is open source so everything even low level functions of lets say kali you can alter or rewrite to your needs unlike windows. Ruby, python and perl comes with every linux distribution no need to install these prerequisites which most scripts in linux use. People who make programs on windows more than likely either sell the programs and it's obfuscated you can't even understand how the program actually utilizes it's code. Also let's say your locked out of windows, you can use linux's filesystem to access the "locked" windows filesystem as well.
TDLR; Windows is for the people who don't care how these programs work and are actually less likely to develop their own exploits or programs and don't mind the limited access they are provided to the OS itself.
(May 16, 2019 06:55 AM)Almaa Wrote: I’m interested in exploit development but not exactly sure how it works. So when your making a exploit are you exploiting Linux it’s self, or something unique to the system that your hacking?
Depends you could exploit linux itself but more or less you are going to try to exploit the software/services running on the machine.
RE: Do master hackers use premade tools? - Stoner - May 17, 2019
(May 17, 2019 04:50 PM)UnknownPawn Wrote: Less resource consumption, Kali comes with tools you won't find for windows, or will work on + everything is open source so everything even low level functions of lets say kali you can alter or rewrite to your needs unlike windows. Ruby and python comes with every linux distribution no need to install these prerequisites which most scripts in linux use. People who make programs on windows more than likely either sell the programs and it's obfuscated you can't even understand how the program actually utilizes it's code. Also let's say your locked out of windows, you can use linux's filesystem to access the "locked" windows filesystem as well.
TDLR; Windows is for the people who don't care how these programs work and are actually less likely to develop their own exploits or programs and don't mind the limited access they are provided to the OS itself.
Depends you could exploit linux itself but more or less you are going to try to exploit the software/services running on the machine.
This is a great explanation, thank you sir!