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Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - The Pact - Dec 12, 2022
Tampa, Florida-------But the jury recently acquitted the 71 year old retired decorated law enforcement officer. He claimed self defense as an old man up against a six foot- 43 year old that was throwing popcorn.
After the retired cop- Curtis Reeves told 43 year old, Chad Oulson to turn off his cell phone during the previews, Oulson said "Fuck off, I'm texting my daughter's babysitter," Reeves then reported him to the manager, and then came back and said "Oh you turned off your cell phone I didn't have to report you to the manager." Chad Oulson then said "Get the fuck out of my face" and grabbed the old man's popcorn, and threw it at him- whereupon, the 71 year old shot him in the chest and the bullet also took the 43 year old's wife's finger off.
The jury felt the prosecution didn't prove that it was murder beyond reasonable doubt, despite the fact that Chad Oulson never got out of his seat and just threw the popcorn from his own seat. He did grab the old man's own popcorn out of his hand though and threw the old man's OWN popcorn at him.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/25/us/curtis-reeves-murder-trial-jury-deliberations/index.html
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Bluffer - Dec 12, 2022
Knew this was Murica before I read it and just the fact alone that anyone can bring a gun into a movie theatre is fucking insane.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Koyote - Dec 12, 2022
That's a jury that values their guns over their people by the sounds of it. I love guns, think they're great inventions and wonderful tools for defence, but this is clearly a miscarriage of justice.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - theDuke - Dec 12, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 03:05 AM)TheCuriousCoyote Wrote: That's a jury that values their guns over their people by the sounds of it. I love guns, think they're great inventions and wonderful tools for defence, but this is clearly a miscarriage of justice.
This exactly, as much as guns are fucking awesome there was no need for him to shoot him lol
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Koyote - Dec 12, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 03:08 AM)TheDuke Wrote: This exactly, as much as guns are fucking awesome there was no need for him to shoot him lol
Imagine being so trigger happy that someone throwing something like popcorn at you makes you want to fill them with lead, and then you realise you've hit the wife too because you didn't think of the collateral damage or the firing angle... What a world lol.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Lindros - Dec 12, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 03:03 AM)Bluffer Wrote: Knew this was Murica before I read it and just the fact alone that anyone can bring a gun into a movie theatre is fucking insane.
I concealed carry to the theatre all the time, what's your problem?
There is nothing wrong with defending yourselves. Crime is off the chart.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Bluffer - Dec 12, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 01:20 PM)Lindros Wrote: I concealed carry to the theatre all the time, what's your problem?
There is nothing wrong with defending yourselves. Crime is off the chart.
When guns are permitted to go with you everywhere, this type of situation is bound to happen. Guns should not be normalized for anyone but hunters.
I like the gun laws in Canada.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Prepper - Dec 12, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 01:34 PM)Bluffer Wrote: When guns are permitted to go with you everywhere, this type of situation is bound to happen. Guns should not be normalized for anyone but hunters.
I like the gun laws in Canada.
You are free to like the laws you want. But Canada gun laws can stay in Canada. I will not have my rights stripped away from me especially when violent criminals continue to get firearms illegally even in Canada. Also a majority of American gun owners are hunters as well.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - neiqhtworks. - Dec 12, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 03:03 AM)Bluffer Wrote: Knew this was Murica before I read it and just the fact alone that anyone can bring a gun into a movie theatre is fucking insane.
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To be fair anyone with their phone on during a movie should be shot, that should be posted on the door.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - .eXe - Dec 13, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 03:03 AM)Bluffer Wrote: Knew this was Murica before I read it and just the fact alone that anyone can bring a gun into a movie theatre is fucking insane.
I knew it was Florida.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - The Pact - Dec 13, 2022
(Dec 12, 2022 03:03 AM)Bluffer Wrote: Knew this was Murica before I read it and just the fact alone that anyone can bring a gun into a movie theatre is fucking insane.
Guns were prohibited in the movie theatre. He brought one in anyway. But he still got aquitted. The old man is very well spoken. I listened to parts of his trial on a YouTuber's little doco about it. He's articulate. I actually think the prosecution DID prove their case saying that the old man had no bruising on him when he said he bruised easily and tried to claim that the victim threw his cell phone and that it hit him in the face. And also every single witness said that the younger man did not get out of his seat and never said "I'm going to kick your ass" and didn't throw anything other than popcorn. Only the defendant said Olsen got out of his seat, threw a cell phone at his face and said "I'm going to kick your ass." So not sure why the jury acquitted him on all counts.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - ꜱʟᴇᴇᴘ - Jan 11, 2024
(Dec 12, 2022 01:20 PM)Lindros Wrote: I concealed carry to the theatre all the time, what's your problem?
There is nothing wrong with defending yourselves. Crime is off the chart.
The key isn't only the concealed carry, but to train for the scenario. Bring a chair to the range with you and practice your seated draw.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - samurai - Jan 11, 2024
This seems to be a regular case of PTSD from a retired Combatant.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Lindros - Jan 13, 2024
(Jan 11, 2024 03:48 PM)ꜱʟᴇᴇᴘ Wrote: The key isn't only the concealed carry, but to train for the scenario. Bring a chair to the range with you and practice your seated draw.
I have trained enough to be proficient, moreso than the average person. What are the odds that the person targeting me is a highly trained, killing machine who has instantly locked onto me, specifically? If someone shoots me before I can even think to draw, it would be pointless anyway. I could situate myself in literal seconds from any position to draw.
I think people overthink it. Overthinking it gets people killed just as easily. I can draw just fine from my holster sitting down. It's inside the waistband clip holstered on my joggers and the gun clips out easily.
Something about carrying heightens my situational awareness. The weight of the gun reminds me that I have the ability, duty and responsibility to protect myself and often times my girl/others around me. I am comfortable with my ability. Not to say I can't improve. Certainly I can, but again, how prepared can you be really? I can handle a gun without thought in a safe manner, I believe that equips me far better than most and that's all I need to greatly increase my odds of success.
RE: Retired SWAT commander shoots man in movie theatre for throwing popcorn at him - Spore - Jan 13, 2024
Classic American move. Wouldn't expect anything else.