(Apr 15, 2019 07:57 PM)THE NORTH FACE Wrote:  Why not just give him your ID? Its a standard procedure (USA)
I reread your post 3 times and to me you are 110% the problem in this situation. If you had just handed over your license you would have been on your way within 10 minutes. Instead you decided to throw your weight around (probably trying to impress your gf) and waste everyone's time.

(Apr 15, 2019 08:37 PM)Peloton Wrote:  Some departments are trained to ask ID first before saying anything else.
Sorry, but you were the asshole.

(Apr 15, 2019 08:37 PM)Rainbow Wrote:  You being a dick to the cop is just going to make it worse. Just give them your ID and move along, it will make your life and the cops life a whole lot easier.

(Apr 15, 2019 08:48 PM)Crypt Wrote:  “Stop and Identify” or “Papers Please” Is assuming you're just walking down the street and a cop randomly asks you for ID, however, if you actually broke a law (including traffic laws) the police have every right to ask you for ID and if you refuse you can be taken to jail.

The best thing to do is contact a lawyer in whatever state you're in and ask them, they know the law better than Google.

(Apr 15, 2019 09:23 PM)Peloton Wrote:  Yea, and they don't have to inform you of that reason until they receive your ID. If you don't have warrants, and a valid license why would you refuse to show identification? Honesty goes a long way with cops, bullshit won't always slide.

This is pure logic, if you had a cop who was patient, but also firm. You probably would be in jail right now if you continued to refuse identification.

(Apr 15, 2019 09:38 PM)NCAA Wrote:  cause thats his JOB you clown

you dont know what he was after so dont be jackass. could of been a car in the area that robbed a store and your car matched the description. people like you are the exact reason there is tension between cops and regular folks in america.

(Apr 15, 2019 10:50 PM)Bill Gates Wrote:  Just be cool give him what he wants and let him be on his way, he doesn't want to be stuck by the side of the road having to argue with some pretentious kid that thinks he knows the law and wants to make a stand...................I'd be more concerned if the police weren't doing their job and stopping peoples on the road. You were the problem here by making his job harder than it has to be, no wonder he was a dick to you. All he was asking for is ID, not like you were doing handbrake turns in the Walmart carpark while screaming profanities out the window, I don't see why you had to make a molehill into a mountain.

Let him do his job, comply, then complain if you have video later.

(Apr 16, 2019 04:35 AM)Jinx Wrote:  LAPD and NYPD do this same shit. I was pulled over literally right after I left a party. Guess they thought I was drunk? Didn't give me a reason why they pulled me over for 0 reason. I wasted their time for 20 minutes and they left. ezClap

(Apr 16, 2019 04:35 AM)Elara Wrote:  was this NYPD or LAPD?

(Apr 16, 2019 01:29 AM)Punisher Wrote:  He doesn't have to present an ID, especially because the officer refused to explain why the officer was wasting his time by pulling him over without explanation.


So because a cop is trained to ask for an ID, citizens should just blindly obey them, even when not legally required?
Officers are also trained to give a reason for a traffic stop - this cop was poorly trained and a corrupt asshole.


The cop is a public servant. That's their job. The officer was wasting taxpayer money pulling people over without reasonable cause and refused to give this guy a reason for the stop, then wasted 35 minutes - time which could have been spent stopping an actual criminal. He wasn't being a dick, he simply asked why he was being pulled over.


No it doesn't - whether you're in a vehicle or on foot, it's all the same if you haven't violated any law and the officer refuses to explain why you are required to identify yourself.


Not true, you don't have to present identification unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime.
Where the fuck do you think they take the ID when they go back to their car? They look you up in a system, they can see prior traffic violations, and even have access to your name, date of birth, and address. Imagine the dude looks you up on Facebook, or sits outside on your street waiting for you to leave so he can follow you or harass you further in the future. Just because some asshole cop DEMANDS to see your license, you don't have to comply.


His job also requires him to give a reason for the traffic stop. All he had to do was answer his question and OP probably would have handed it over if it was a good reason. Bad cops are the reason there's tension, and this guy was a bad cop - wasting time, resources, and threatening citizens.


Obey. Comply. Baaaah *sheep sounds*.
You sound like a fucking beta little bitch.

Never comply with an officer if you don't have to, they're trained to dig for as much information as possible so they can fuck you over.
Never obey an unreasonable command, especially if you haven't even committed a crime or have been informed of the reason for the stop.
Never feel like you're wasting the officers time - they stopped you for no reason, not the other way around.
Always ask for name and badge number of an officer when they get aggressive, and document then report it.

(Apr 16, 2019 01:29 AM)Punisher Wrote:  He doesn't have to present an ID, especially because the officer refused to explain why the officer was wasting his time by pulling him over without explanation.


So because a cop is trained to ask for an ID, citizens should just blindly obey them, even when not legally required?
Officers are also trained to give a reason for a traffic stop - this cop was poorly trained and a corrupt asshole.


The cop is a public servant. That's their job. The officer was wasting taxpayer money pulling people over without reasonable cause and refused to give this guy a reason for the stop, then wasted 35 minutes - time which could have been spent stopping an actual criminal. He wasn't being a dick, he simply asked why he was being pulled over.


No it doesn't - whether you're in a vehicle or on foot, it's all the same if you haven't violated any law and the officer refuses to explain why you are required to identify yourself.


Not true, you don't have to present identification unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime.
Where the fuck do you think they take the ID when they go back to their car? They look you up in a system, they can see prior traffic violations, and even have access to your name, date of birth, and address. Imagine the dude looks you up on Facebook, or sits outside on your street waiting for you to leave so he can follow you or harass you further in the future. Just because some asshole cop DEMANDS to see your license, you don't have to comply.


His job also requires him to give a reason for the traffic stop. All he had to do was answer his question and OP probably would have handed it over if it was a good reason. Bad cops are the reason there's tension, and this guy was a bad cop - wasting time, resources, and threatening citizens.


Obey. Comply. Baaaah *sheep sounds*.
You sound like a fucking beta little bitch.

Never comply with an officer if you don't have to, they're trained to dig for as much information as possible so they can fuck you over.
Never obey an unreasonable command, especially if you haven't even committed a crime or have been informed of the reason for the stop.
Never feel like you're wasting the officers time - they stopped you for no reason, not the other way around.
Always ask for name and badge number of an officer when they get aggressive, and document then report it.

(Apr 16, 2019 10:04 AM)Bill Gates Wrote:  You sound like a little hood rat gimp tbh............FIGHT THE AUTHORITAAAAAH..............fucking child. Hopefully, you carry that attitude to the wrong cop.

Dirty little millennials