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An uber member is still same as a regular member... - #OccupyHackForums - Oct 3, 2010
I don't get why people trust other people in hackforums because of reputations and the rank tags like ubers and leets.
A uber member is still same as a regular member.
- You have never met the person in real life.
- You don't know where they live.
- You don't know what they are capable of doing.
I seen a lot of apple call-in threads and people are getting scammed by ubers.
Are you seriously gonna give someone like $200 or more to a person that you have never ever met or seen? You don't know his name, you don't know his phone number or address, You don't know the person, you just don't know him...
A uber upgrade costs $30 only! Posts counts and reputations can be earned so easily. People gives out reputation for no reason at all..
If a uber with 1k+ posts and 500+rep makes thread like Apple-call-in, I bet lots of people would wanna buy the service from him/her. That uber could get like at least 5 people buying his service without any actual proofs because of him/her being a uber and with the post counts and reps. 5 X $200 = $1,000. That uber can just leave and take that money to himself and get out of hackforums.
Here are the benefits of uber:
(Oct 3, 2010 04:14 AM)The Elite Wrote: Advantages of Ub3r
Since many people don't have the link, I thought I'd cover this. There are many advantages of Ub3r:
- Custom Stars
- Awesome Userbar
- HF Ub3r section
- Purple/Blue name
- Ub3r award
- Spot on the Forum Team page
- Private Message tracking
- Larger PM box
- Ability to PM 5 people at once
- Priority Ub3r support
- Can give 5 reputations per day
- Access to all member forums
- Can edit/delete your own posts without time limits
- Removal of advertisements
- Can view the bans page
- Can edit your post after a moderator edit
- Ability to upload and download attachments
- Can deny PM receipts
- Can view invisible users in who's online list
- Email forward address
- Can junk your own thread from public view
- Ability to view other members warnings not just points
- Can open and close your own threads
And much more.
Where does it say in there that ubers are to be trusted with $200? Where? Do you see it? NO!
Proofs and Vouches:
Are you telling me that you're now gonna buy something online to a person you have never met and doesn't even have a proof? Always look at the proofs! Don't just assume that the uber is trust worthy by his post counts and reputations.
Many people vouches other people's thread just because they have dealt with that person before..Guess what? People change!
Look for the vouches from people who have actually bought that specific service and vouched. Don't just look at vouch that says, "vouch, legit person. sold me blah blah before.."
Common Sense:
Why would someone want to sell those service? Clearly, that uber could just ship the iPhones or iPads to their home and sell it on ebay for like $600 to $800. Doesn't it seem weird? That uber is basically selling a new iPhone 4 to you for only $200? They could make more profits selling in ebay rather than selling it here.
Obviously when you sell/buy something from ebay, you have sellers/buyers legal protection. You can also chargeback! But in this case, the ubers want these demands:
1) Must send all money at once
2) Must send as paypal gift
3) No escrow service
4) No listening to the call-ins
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By reading this, you have probably noticed a lot of grammatical mistakes. Don't judge, no one is perfect at writing. I just hope you understood it.
Some comments from other members:
(Oct 3, 2010 02:56 PM)David9292 Wrote: the OP has a very good point.. i could buy ub3r... release some good shit then scam for more then 30$ which is how much ub3r cost then re join ub3r and release some good shit then scam again....
ub3r means nothing to me.. just means you got 30$ and some spare time to get rep doesnt make u trustworthy over normal members.
ill be waiting to get neg rep for this but i coultn care about some rep :D
(Oct 3, 2010 02:53 PM)Swat Runs Train Wrote: I do agree actually, there does seem to be a lot of Ub3rs who scam but the majority are legit people. I personally have done business on this site with various members worth 1000s of dollars per transaction and had no issues, you just need to know how to choose them. I also don't go first ever and had no issues.
(Oct 3, 2010 03:10 PM)Josh is RiPPiiN Wrote: i see this shit all the time, here are a couple of methods i use to make sure the seller and the buyer dont get scammed.
1) NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER SEND AS PAYPAL GIFT!!
2) if the purchase is more then 25$ get to know the buyer, try to get some backround knowlage about him. use yout gut feeling to deciede if you personally trust him/her.
3) use a TRUSTED middle man if you need.
4) look on other forums to see if he has any previous scam reports.
5) dont go first unless the person has decent ammount of vouches
6)DONT GO BY REPUTATION, people do Rep for Rep with friends all the time,
7) look at the rep and see if any of them say things like "good transaction" and stuff along those lines
8)make sure the seller has 100% proof of the item, not stolen or carded.
9) if your a buyer and your afraid of them doing a chargeback, hold payment up to 24-48hrs
10) lastly, Ub3r,L33t and normal members are all equal. just Ub3r and L33t means they have the money to upgrade, and omni accepted them to be ub3r.
i use these 10 steps in all transactions, doesnt matter on the item or price.
Hope this helped :)
(Oct 3, 2010 03:10 PM)Swat Runs Train Wrote: I know this will sound stupid and everyone will be like rep means nothing but I have yet to see a legit scam report against anyone with 400+ rep.
Always use caution and look for the little signs, ask tons of questions etc.
(Oct 3, 2010 03:18 PM)Arrogance Wrote: Do not trust anyone on HackForums, simple as it is.
(Oct 3, 2010 03:18 PM)Josh is RiPPiiN Wrote: lol yeah its hard to trust people on a website called HACKforums lol, but some people are legit
(Oct 3, 2010 03:20 PM)Angelic Cookie Wrote: very good point but UB3Rs are most of the time dedicated. Yes they are some that aren't but most are
* - Violence - Oct 3, 2010
Obviously and the queen of england browses here. We are not normal members. We are the high point of the community. You wrote this because you see scam reports on idiots. Ub3r's are not regular members. I'm not you,a regular member, I am way more trusted and way cooler than you with wayy better hair on top of it. So don't put me and you in the same category.
* - #OccupyHackForums - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:16 PM)Violence Wrote: Obviously and the queen of england browses here. We are not normal members. We are the high point of the community. You wrote this because you see scam reports on idiots. Ub3r's are not regular members. I'm not you,a regular member, I am way more trusted and way cooler than you with wayy better hair on top of it. So don't put me and you in the same category.
Reputation means NOTHING when you are dealing someone that you don't know in real life, with over $200.
Let's look at your recent reputation.
Quote:Positive (+3): lol @ funny post, funny member
Positive (+3): LOLYUSOFUNNY. lol@0-day.
Positive (+Positive (+3): happy B day violence :-)
+3): Great guy! Friendly :p
Positive (+3): Happy Birthday Nig
Positive (+1): no boobs for u!!
Positive (+3): Oh why thank you :D
Positive (+3): But I want to soo bad. :\
Positive (+1): You are a LEGEND! Legit trader as well as a chilled out guy. Thanks for taking the time to help me
Positive (+3): <3 U TOO, H3 BUD
Positive (+1): Was on his server for a while, nice guy
Look how you got your reps...See how easy a person can get reputation in here..Those are just ridiculous reputations..
You said you are trusted because of your reputation but as you can see people just give reputation for no reason at all..
Sure I will trust you for some money like up to $50 but hell no, I couldn't trust you for $200 or more..
* - Ass - Oct 3, 2010
Being ub3r means that,
You can sell little stuff >$30 which others would trust you with. ($30 > $2 stuff)
Anything $50<
should be weary, seeing that the return for ub3r/l33t from scammers is much higher.
Things to look out for now:
Shady shell booters. (fresh ones especially, ones that have "discounts")
PID call ins.
Some Codedom Crypters (.Net) -> scantime. Pr0t0types is legit, I'll admit. (happy?)
Real Life items
Anything they can sell fast, and can stall you for a few days.
Etc.
* - mrwhich - Oct 3, 2010
I think I trust UB3Rs less than other members... they seem to always be the one to screw me over the most.
I've had them screw me over for even $5 and $10 while I'm sitting here having people trust me with up to $580 (LR - irreversible :o) and don't give them any problems. Every person is so different but most will screw you for any decent amount especially if you're powerless.
And read my rep if you think it means nothing - always read rep and decide its quality. Good choice.
* - #OccupyHackForums - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:34 PM)Violence Wrote: You know how I got those reputations?Look through all my reps. I am a legit trader,next time you fuckin criticize me get your fuckin facts straight. You are just complaining because you got a big fat -33 and all the ub3r's neg rep'd you. Fuckin butturt member is butthurt.
I just checked all your reputation pages.
Out of 261 reps, these are the only ones that deals with trading/marketing.
Quote:Positive (+3): I exchanged his PP to LR - legit.
Positive (+3): Good buyer. Trusted.
Positive (+1): Trusted, did i4i
Positive (+3): Thanks for the fast payment ^_^
Positive (+3): Legit seller! Sold me installs! all came in PERFECT!!!!
Positive (+1): Bought me l33t, paid him LR , very trusted in my eyes !
Positive (+3): Smooth Transaction. Went second and still payed. Kool guy to talk to. Trusted =)
Positive (+1): Nice Guy gave me clean installs to. Fast and Easy =]
Positive (+3): Very trustworthy person!
Does it anywhere mention that you sold something to someone that deals with over $200? Nope.
As you can see no matter how much reputations a uber has, they still can't be trusted dealing with over $200!
Dealing up to $50 is fine but $200 to someone you don't know?...
* - Swat Runs Train - Oct 3, 2010
Someone is obviously butthurt all the ub3r members dislike him.
* - Dew Hickey - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:14 PM)india220 Wrote: A uber upgrade costs $30 only! Posts counts and reputations can be earned so easily. People gives out reputation for no reason at all..
I lol'd.
If reps are so easy to gain, what is your deficiency?
* - #OccupyHackForums - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:46 PM)Swat Runs Train Wrote: Someone is obviously butthurt all the ub3r members dislike him.
Could you stay on topic and reply your comment regards to the topic like what do you think about what I wrote.. Agree? Disagree? Why or why not?..
(Oct 3, 2010 02:48 PM)Dew Hickey Wrote: I lol'd.
If reps are so easy to gain, what is your deficiency?
If you look at my reputation's first page, you will find I have 8 or 9 reputation in just a week or so, while being a normal member.
obviously, if you buy a uber, more people will rep you..
but then I decided to be an ass at SE forums and it went down.
* - Swat Runs Train - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:49 PM)india220 Wrote: Could you stay on topic and reply your comment regards to the topic like what do you think about what I wrote.. Agree? Disagree? Why or why not?..
I do agree actually, there does seem to be a lot of Ub3rs who scam but the majority are legit people. I personally have done business on this site with various members worth 1000s of dollars per transaction and had no issues, you just need to know how to choose them. I also don't go first ever and had no issues.
* - David9292 - Oct 3, 2010
the OP has a very good point.. i could buy ub3r... release some good shit then scam for more then 30$ which is how much ub3r cost then re join ub3r and release some good shit then scam again....
ub3r means nothing to me.. just means you got 30$ and some spare time to get rep doesnt make u trustworthy over normal members.
ill be waiting to get neg rep for this but i coultn care about some rep :D
* - Minnesota Nice - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:16 PM)Violence Wrote: Obviously and the queen of england browses here. We are not normal members. We are the high point of the community. You wrote this because you see scam reports on idiots. Ub3r's are not regular members. I'm not you,a regular member, I am way more trusted and way cooler than you with wayy better hair on top of it. So don't put me and you in the same category.
I love your attitude, but my hair is so much better.
Ub3rs are actually not regular members, they paid to be on the site they wont do anything stupid to get a perma where as a fresh new member could sign up and try to infect members with no consequences (sorta)
* - SuperFun - Oct 3, 2010
OP makes a valid point.
ttt
(Oct 3, 2010 02:58 PM)Yosef Wrote: I love your attitude, but my hair is so much better.
Ub3rs are actually not regular members, they paid to be on the site they wont do anything stupid to get a perma where as a fresh new member could sign up and try to infect members with no consequences (sorta)
No,
If Ub3r is $30, they can go ahead and put up a thread selling__ for $100.
$100 x 5 = $500.
* - Quiet. - Oct 3, 2010
(Oct 3, 2010 02:30 PM)india220 Wrote: Reputation means NOTHING when you are dealing someone that you don't know in real life, with over $200.
Let's look at your recent reputation.
Quote:Positive (+3): lol @ funny post, funny member
Positive (+3): LOLYUSOFUNNY. lol@0-day.
Positive (+Positive (+3): happy B day violence :-)
+3): Great guy! Friendly :p
Positive (+3): Happy Birthday Nig
Positive (+1): no boobs for u!!
Positive (+3): Oh why thank you :D
Positive (+3): But I want to soo bad. :\
Positive (+1): You are a LEGEND! Legit trader as well as a chilled out guy. Thanks for taking the time to help me
Positive (+3): <3 U TOO, H3 BUD
Positive (+1): Was on his server for a while, nice guy
Look how you got your reps...See how easy a person can get reputation in here..Those are just ridiculous reputations..
You said you are trusted because of your reputation but as you can see people just give reputation for no reason at all..
Sure I will trust you for some money like up to $50 but hell no, I couldn't trust you for $200 or more..
Rep obviously isn't easy to get; just look at you.
* - NaDe - Oct 3, 2010
I disagree that ub3r members and regular members are the same.
Except for the fact of having to pay $30 and be chosen by omniscient, ub3rs are usually trusted.
There are always going to be the exceptions, I mean think about it... With all the members on this site of course there will be those 100-150 untrusted ub3r members but there are very few if any regular members I would trust with $200.