Thanks so much. So many people come here to scam.
To be honest, i think this isn't a good rule. Ub3r's aren't 100% safe also. Still, i appreciate your time you put in to make the site better!
I am beyond glad this Is happening! Way to many scammers recently!
I'm very, very excited to see this new rule implemented. I feel as though it was needed, and will work great to cut down on scam attempts.
Great idea Omni, Hopefully there will be less scammers now.
I'm glad to see this is getting implemented, I've seen many scams in this section.
I completely disagree with this decision, L33Ts are being slowly pushed out of the marketplace and this severely limits competition. Not to mention the large majority of scams I've seen in here were by UB3Rs. I think pinning a few members actions on a whole group isn't the right thing to do, however I have been loving some of your other changes just not this one.
(May 19, 2014 01:18 PM)Infer Wrote: I completely disagree with this decision, L33Ts are being slowly pushed out of the marketplace and this severely limits competition. Not to mention the large majority of scams I've seen in here were by UB3Rs. I think pinning a few members actions on a whole group isn't the right thing to do, however I have been loving some of your other changes just not this one.
The majority of scams I've seen were from L33T members, not UB3R. I've seen way to many chargebacks recently from L33Ts with decent reputations.
(May 19, 2014 01:20 PM)Natha Wrote: Yes but this would be your opinion as you, yourself are a l33t. I can understand it seeming unfair, but it's only best for the community.
We're sick and tired of scammers when it can easily be prevented.
It's absolutely ridiculous to say that removing L33Ts will have some huge impact on the amount of scams, most people are very wary when dealing with non-UB3Rs. I am very active in this area of the marketplace and extremely disappointed this has been implemented especially because the majority is done by UB3Rs.
(May 19, 2014 01:23 PM)Original™ Wrote: The majority of scams I've seen were from L33T members, not UB3R. I've seen way to many chargebacks recently from L33Ts with decent reputations.
Chargebacks are the problem? Well L33Ts could still go buy from exchangers and just chargeback, it would have the same effect. I get that an UB3R is on most occasions more trusted but they have the same capacity and a little less probability of scamming.
(May 19, 2014 01:25 PM)Infer Wrote: Chargebacks are the problem? Well L33Ts could still go buy from exchangers and just chargeback, it would have the same effect. I get that an UB3R is on most occasions more trusted but they have the same capacity and a little less probability of scamming.
This has simply cut down on scamming. I'd say 7/10 scams are performed by L33T members with less than 50 reputation.
Chargebacks will still occur, but now members can't create threads saying they're buying BTC for PayPal, and go on a huge scam spree.
(May 19, 2014 01:26 PM)Maximum Wrote: Maybe you should apply for Ub3r and pray to Omni that you get accepted so you don't have this problem?
Already applied twice, but that's beside the point. UB3Rs are slowly monopolizing the marketplace but just watch the scam reports from the currency exchange won't drop by more than 5%, if that.
(May 19, 2014 01:29 PM)Original™ Wrote: This has simply cut down on scamming. I'd say 7/10 scams are performed by L33T members with less than 50 reputation.
Chargebacks will still occur, but now members can create threads saying they're buying BTC for PayPal, and go on a huge scam spree.
7/10? Maybe on the rest of the forums, not in the currency exchange people are much more cautious here, and did you just agree with me?
(May 19, 2014 01:36 PM)SWS. Wrote: This is exactly what happens.
Most of the time it's ban evaders who make a new account, purchase L33t, do a few 5-10 cent BTC or OMC giveaways, get 50 positive rep, do some exchanges from PayPal to BTC, and then charge back on everyone who they exchange with.
I've seen it happen way too many times.
If we were grading on the amount scammed, not the amount of scams (even though I believe UB3Rs account for more of these), UB3Rs would account for much more dollar value.
(May 19, 2014 01:30 PM)Infer Wrote: 7/10? Maybe on the rest of the forums, not in the currency exchange people are much more cautious here, and did you just agree with me?
Obviously you aren't around the currency exchange section very often. I am there every day and I witness almost every scam that's happened lately. It's just about always a L33T member who uses stolen information and the owner charges back.
I did not agree with you. I said that it will cut down on the chargebacks by not allowing scammers to create their own threads. This forces us to act on our own judgement whether or not we should accept the persons PayPal offer. Rather than a L33T member being able to scam anyone who replies on their thread, they are now mostly limited to trying to scam seasoned UB3R exchangers.
I am happy to see this. Thanks Omni!
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