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So What Do Some Computer Scientist Think C and C++?

^ engineering > cs kids

fucking reterds

electrical engineering, specialty electronics and embedded systems (software + electrical engineering) + design engineering.
C/C++ is for programs that are ran on your computer, AKA software, not at all the same for web languages.
(Sep 8, 2015 11:01 PM)g4143 Wrote:  Let me put it in words that you can understand.

Engineers are the ones with dirt under their fingernails and scientist are the ones with beautiful minds.

Says the person that never was qualified for engineering. I'm in second year, computer engineering. It's nothing compared to what cs idiots do. Cs kids can't do something as simple as deriving max wells equations and applying them. Biased fucking retard. I've looked over your fucking threads and it seems that you aren't competent, you post basic shit.

Dumb ass physics major, not even a phd

Engineers are smarter than any major (equivalent to math , physics phd)

Ever had a look at aerospace engineering?

There's a reason why a computer engineering major can do computer science jobs and not the opposite. You in competent fucking retard

Oh look at me I learned classical physics and can't get a job to safe my life welcome to the modern world where quantum physics and the theory of relativity are taking over
(Sep 10, 2015 09:15 AM)bbbysmth Wrote:  But are not an engineer either. You are just some second year know nothing.

Second year hahaha I'm 19 and I'm maintaining a 3.5. Understand more than you
And let's not forget computer games are written in C++.
You have to remember that those who use C/C++ in industry use it in large teams. The productivity of C/C++ programmers is very large and industry can afford to use the language for the benefits.

I do agree for most things there is no real need for C/C++ but why would huge industries move away from it and spend money to convert to higher-level languages that don't support the low-level operations they use, are slightly slower, have more overheads, are easier to decompile etc.
This whole thread is rather pointless since it's obvious. Also, isn't that video about web applications? C/C++ are the languages that power those web languages.


(Sep 12, 2015 08:12 AM)g4143 Wrote:  And let's not forget computer games are written in all programming languages.

Let's not forget that popular game engines that support languages like C#, JavaScript, Lua, Python etc. are usually all written in C++. They used C++ for a reason - keep that in mind. There is an expense to C++ but industry can afford it for the brilliant performance it brings.


I find it amusing how the people in that video refer to web applications as "real world applications" and completely miss out embedded systems development, desktop GUI application development, high reliability software engineering (#facebook), game development etc. etc.

If you think C++ is impractical - think of its benefits and your desired application. It can be, but for a lot of things - it's really not.
(Sep 12, 2015 11:18 PM)0xDEAD10CC Wrote:  My god, how biased and misinformed you've become. Clearly as I have mentioned before you have never actually worked in the industry... :/ You read one article or view a youtube video and your point of view becomes immutable.

This^

I accuse OP of being a troll. Either that or he's a complete retard with no experience. Have you even written a single line of code yet?

You post a video of a WEB DEVELOPER saying C++ wouldn't be chosen to develop a WEB APPLICATION. No fucking shit. Just like no game developer or embedded developer would write his application in Java/Ruby/Python/<insert scripting language here>.

It all comes down to using the right tool for the right job. . C++ is a terrible choice for web applications but it's a great choice for low level, speed critical code (games, crypto, firmware, drivers, etc.)
This thread is great.
I, as a C# hobbyist, did not understand jackshit about 99% of the technical things you guys throw around, but I'm quite confident OP is an idiot.
(Sep 13, 2015 09:51 PM)g4143 Wrote:  And I think we can see that your point of view is somewhat skewed. To think that the last 70 years of programming has been a layering of garbage is ridiculous....Or am I building another straw man?

You're just mad because you couldn't major in engineering yet alone complete first year graphics/design.

Keep reppin abstraction layers while software engineers make it possible
(Sep 14, 2015 10:23 AM)g4143 Wrote:  Really everyone's? I guess with that attitude you'll fit right in with the engineers.

Engineers > cs kids
Mathematicians > everything else


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