[Hawk HF]

This whole argument is over,

Pahaha!
You're my hero, bro.

[Ramisme]

20% fat as fuck?? lol you begin to see abs around 15%

Since when is 20% not fat as fuck? Sure, if you're flexing hard as fuck and have decent fat distribution genetics.

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This whole argument is over,
- Dietary fat is needed to gain muscle
- It is not possible to be over 200lbs and lean without steriods

And whether it takes me 2 years, or 2 years a 1 day to accomplish I don't care I'm gonna make it one way or another.

Dietary fat was never part of the argument.

Quoted directly from you:

OP don't jump on a treadmill or do cardio to lose weight. You will need that fat to build muscle.

You're claiming that he needs his body fat to build muscle. That's objectively incorrect, and that argument ended there.

Sure, it's possible to be 200lbs and lean without steroids. You'd have to be pretty tall to get there, but yeah it's definitely possible.

You won't get there in 2 years. We already calculated this shit out, dude. I even based it on assumptions that were majorly in your favor but would never actually happen and you still would only end up at 190lbs and 10% bodyfat after 3 years of perfectly consistent training and dieting.

Jesus fuck, dude. Just lift and eat and quit acting like you know what you're talking about.

[dajalakahp]

stop eating fastfood eat salat and good food dont eat much in the evening

[VodkaNik]

So 10 pages of arguing because I forgot to put the word "dietary" in front of fat 🤣

Also pm me in 2 years, I'll be over 200 and somewhat lean.

[Mr‎‎]

Just eat healthier (no junkfood, not to much satturated fat)
- Eat chicken breast
- Eat Tilapia
- Eat rice
- Eat oatmeal
- Eat less in general
[A meal from mcdonalds once a month wont hurt]

Dont drink any soda only drink water or black coffee (soda once in a while wont hurt)

Exercise? Take the bike to school instead of the bus. Get off your ass more and work out (cardio)

[Hawk HF]

So 10 pages of arguing because I forgot to put the word "dietary" in front of fat 🤣

Also pm me in 2 years, I'll be over 200 and somewhat lean.

It was a fun argument, although you lost.
A few more posts and this thread will be hot! 😁

[VodkaNik]

It was a fun argument, although you lost.
A few more posts and this thread will be hot! 😁

Updated original post, you mad? 🤣

[Hawk HF]

Updated original post, you mad? 🤣

What post?
Not sure what you mean.

[Jester Race]

So 10 pages of arguing because I forgot to put the word "dietary" in front of fat 🤣

Also pm me in 2 years, I'll be over 200 and somewhat lean.

...or do cardio to lose weight. You will need THAT fat to build muscle...

Dude that THAT implies that you meant his weight. It would be extremely stupid sentence if you added the dietary in front of it out of nowhere...

Also why on earth you said you wished to have started at 370lb unless you genuinely thought that fat was needed to build muscle? 🤦‍♂