[ntm124]

Lol fuck emf. Its a board full of scammers.

It is, it is scary over there. I got scammed some there. And if u look on the forum u can see that I reported some scammers there also, with the proof.
I think online business in everywhere we have scammers as it is virtual business. So you have to try it. And because of that, I totally agreed with the idea of using escrow for safe for both of us. however, you have to pay the whole escrow fee no matter what you are going to buy or sell. As it is ur wish for ur safety.
U can see in my emf link, nobody ever gave me a bad feedback :). And it has been a while so I think in someways it is trustable.

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Hey ntm124 Plz Reply To My PM.
I Liked Ur Rates.

Sorry, I want to reply to your PM but I cant because I m new and do not have enough post. Moreover, I didnt receive your email. And by that time u sent me I was dealing with factor8 an another client . After that it is midnight and I went to sleep that s why. Right now I believe I can pm to you and I will do it in a minute. Thanks.

[Tɦɛ Gʀiɱ]

Legit Person,
I Did An Exchange With ntm124.

[ntm124]

Update for my new service, actually for wmz I do not have so many clients so if u would like to have it exchanged with others currency or lr I must charge some fee.
For WMZ to LR and vice versa: 1% min fee 5$
For any other currencies to wmz: 15% fee at least holding 3 days at least
pls do not make any bargain, I already give u the best fees:)

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This is not EMF 🙃 , this is Hackforums and i told my suggestion just , I didn't say he is scammer or like that , i just told deal with caution as i saw him in 3 - 5 forums and in no where he is verified Exchanger or VIP member. he has only 1 - 5 posts here and offered nice rates which is oviously looks odd and that's why i alerted peoples to use escrow for dealing with him , as he has no prove of trust ...

:) U can do that and it makes sense to me. and as I said, I accept escrow but my partner has to pay the fees for it. furthermore, I have proof for trust in emf, and u cant ask for proof in a forum where I am new. thats why I agreed for escrow. but pls dont say that I have no proof of trust because I had it in other forums.

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This is not EMF 🙃 , this is Hackforums and i told my suggestion just , I didn't say he is scammer or like that , i just told deal with caution as i saw him in 3 - 5 forums and in no where he is verified Exchanger or VIP member. he has only 1 - 5 posts here and offered nice rates which is oviously looks odd and that's why i alerted peoples to use escrow for dealing with him , as he has no prove of trust ...

:) U can do that and it makes sense to me. and as I said, I accept escrow but my partner has to pay the fees for it. furthermore, I have proof for trust in emf, and u cant ask for proof in a forum where I am new. thats why I agreed for escrow. but pls dont say that I have no proof of trust because I had it in other forums.

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up, it is good to hear from u guys

[Tɦɛ Gʀiɱ]

Did Another Exchange With Him.
Thank You.

[Zeon]

Yeah, finally good exchange rates. Black Shadow is just mad because he has a 40% tariff lol

[The EHW]

Vouch he's been safe on EMF and will most probably be safe here too!

[ntm124]

thanks alot for all the support!!!!

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I am going to use factor8 escrow service to be the middleman for my trade with my partner. my partner pay the escrow fee. :) The trade is about 425lr. thanks

[ß|Λcksí-íΛdΘw™]

Yeah, finally good exchange rates. Black Shadow is just mad because he has a 40% tariff lol

Not mad brother , :) i don't need to Mad .
GOOD LUCK

[Factor8™]

I am willing to do escrow for Wu-Lr( Ntm& The ultimate). Have forwarded a pm to the Ultimate.

[ntm124]

yes i m trading with factor8 rite now. sent him lr :)

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Today I got scammed by factor8. He scammed 450 lr. he confirmed here and in his topic that he is the escrow man for me and ultimate. :) He got the lr from me. And my partner says that he sent me the mtcn but no code or nothing. I buzz him for that, he didnt reply. I believe I got scammed by both of them. Here is the chat content:

veniondige không có trong danh sách Messenger
Nên cẩn thận khi giao thiệp với những người bạn không biết và đừng bao giờ chia sẻ thông tin bảo mật hoặc riêng tư với người lạ.
Báo cáo tin rác

veniondige: Hello Jack tells me you wish to exchange now?
congchuabongdem: yes
congchuabongdem: one min pls
congchuabongdem: i m chatting with him
veniondige: Sure thing.
congchuabongdem: I think we are going to split the trade into 2
congchuabongdem: 1 now
congchuabongdem: for 425
congchuabongdem: lr
congchuabongdem: and 1 in 8 hrs more
congchuabongdem: when I wake up
congchuabongdem: ok
veniondige: Okay sure ;D
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: for 425lr
congchuabongdem: he has to send me 442 in wu
congchuabongdem: pls confirm with him before the trade
veniondige: I will he has went brb though.
veniondige: Please wait for him.
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: hen everything confirmed
congchuabongdem: can I post in ur topic abt this
veniondige: Don't worry about it. You've already posted no need to repeat.
congchuabongdem: sorry to say this
congchuabongdem: but it is because
congchuabongdem: I forget the mod's yahoo
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: u know too much yahoo chatting with me
congchuabongdem: so I just want to make sure that I m chatting with the right person and everything is as confirmed before
congchuabongdem: he comes back
veniondige: Sure thing.
veniondige: Can I pm you instead...
congchuabongdem: can I post it in my topic
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: I'm not able to confirm on the actual thread in order to avoid scams.
veniondige: I can private message with anything you want though.
congchuabongdem: can I post it in my topic
veniondige: Both parties will be notified before any money is transfered.
veniondige: Yes you can ppost.
congchuabongdem: then u just come there and say yes I confirmed abt that
congchuabongdem: I think it is ok rite
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: I'll post saying your email and mine and everything
veniondige: Yes
veniondige:
congchuabongdem: thanks
congchuabongdem: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id13932194
congchuabongdem: sorry because I dont really remember the yahoo id
congchuabongdem: that s why
veniondige: Why don't you just let me PM you my yahoo? o.o
veniondige: just wondering
congchuabongdem: no because I dont thik abt that
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: by the time u told me abt pm
congchuabongdem: i m in the middle of posting the post
congchuabongdem: that s why
veniondige: ahh alright
congchuabongdem: did u reply
veniondige: Replying now
congchuabongdem: ok
veniondige: im not posting my full email
congchuabongdem: it s ok
congchuabongdem: I just need u to confirm that u r factor8
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: because I dont remember the yahoo id
congchuabongdem: and I got scammed many time because I forgot the yahoo ID
congchuabongdem: so just want to be careful
congchuabongdem: this is the first and the last time
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: believe me
veniondige: My account is kind of bugged.
veniondige: Posts are showing up weir :/
veniondige: posted anyway
congchuabongdem: ok let me see
veniondige: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...t;/font>
congchuabongdem: wait
veniondige: Please send over the funds to U5730543 and tell me your WU details.
congchuabongdem: how come u have only 3 posts
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: These shall then be passed over to jack
veniondige: I told you it's coming up bugged.
veniondige: Like in pms.
congchuabongdem: but u have only 3 posts
veniondige: You can ask Omnsicnet for verification.
congchuabongdem: it seems strange to me
veniondige: It's just a plugin error.
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: I will ask him
congchuabongdem: and sorry for the cautious
congchuabongdem:
veniondige: Okay.
veniondige: https://hackforums.net/myvouch.php?uid=103669
veniondige: As you can see there is a new plugin there.
veniondige:
BUZZ!!!
congchuabongdem: can u give me ur topic for ur service pls
veniondige: sure.
veniondige: What are you looking for?
congchuabongdem: because I see my client's profile is still the same
congchuabongdem: so I just want to see ur topic for ur escrow service
congchuabongdem: can u give me that link
veniondige: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=1298863
veniondige: Please pm me next time you need me.
congchuabongdem: one min
congchuabongdem: I need u pls
congchuabongdem: it is so weird
congchuabongdem: in ur service link
congchuabongdem: the profile is good
congchuabongdem: but in mylink
congchuabongdem: it does not
veniondige: I told you it's because of the plugins. Search my name.
congchuabongdem: can u pls post in ur topic just one sentence
congchuabongdem: going to deal with ntm124
congchuabongdem: can u do that
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: ... it's going to do the same thing.
veniondige: A new account will automatically be create under my name with a slight modification.
veniondige: Sorry you chose a bad time to start exchanging on hackforums
congchuabongdem: yeah
congchuabongdem: maybe
veniondige: I've also got reputation on other forums though ^.^
congchuabongdem: but I hope u understand me
congchuabongdem: I just want to make sure
congchuabongdem: yes
congchuabongdem: I believe factor8
congchuabongdem: but the thing is I dont remember his yahoo id
congchuabongdem: o I just want to make sure
veniondige: Ahh...
veniondige: You won't find my yahoo ID.
veniondige: I'm not allowed to post it fully.
veniondige: And I never posted it last time, last time you added me and told me about the exchange ^.^
veniondige: That's why you can't remember
congchuabongdem: yes that s why I ma asking u to send me a pm or to post a confirm there
congchuabongdem: but when u post
congchuabongdem: it becomes totally different
congchuabongdem: tht s why I m a little bit hesitate
veniondige: Sorry but I can't fix that only Omniscient can.
congchuabongdem: and the thing is it only happens with pm and the new post
veniondige: As you can see my post count has been dropping to less than 1 a day because I don't like posting with this glitch.
congchuabongdem: the topic service still the same
veniondige: Is it because I never posted my yahoo ID?
veniondige: If so it's because I'm not allowed, what proof do you want?
veniondige: Pms/posts will not work.
congchuabongdem: ys
congchuabongdem: because this is like this
congchuabongdem: u remember u pm me last time before u post
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: yes
congchuabongdem: now the pm changes
congchuabongdem: but the factor8 service is still the same profile
congchuabongdem: so I dont know what to believe
congchuabongdem: because it means that the pm was sent before the forum got mistake
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: then if it is the same person
congchuabongdem: the profile must be the same
congchuabongdem: here
congchuabongdem: the profile is different
congchuabongdem: that swhy I am worried at
veniondige: Fair enough
congchuabongdem: u understand rite
congchuabongdem: ?
congchuabongdem: factor8 profile in my pm is acc closed
congchuabongdem: but factor8 the same time in the topic service is still normal
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: so I dont know what I can trust
congchuabongdem: pls understand that
veniondige: That's alright.
congchuabongdem: I sent a pm asking the admin abt that
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: because it is reallyweird if it happens everywhere except for ur topic service
congchuabongdem:
veniondige: Alright.
veniondige: Message me next time you need me.
congchuabongdem: if he confirmed that
congchuabongdem: we will do the trade directly without posting anywhere
congchuabongdem: and the amt will be 850lr
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: many people come and ask me to trade with u as the midlle man
congchuabongdem: so after this there will be no trouble some
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: for the first time I have to be cautious
veniondige:
veniondige: I'll try post again later ^.^
congchuabongdem: ok thanks
veniondige: Hello.
veniondige: Omnsicnet is disabling the plugin momentarily.
veniondige: I can make a post right now if you want.
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: luckily
veniondige: I'm not posting my email, I'm just posting the trade okay?
congchuabongdem: I m going to go to sleep
congchuabongdem: ok
veniondige: ^.^
veniondige: okay please tell me what to write
veniondige: $850 western union for?
congchuabongdem: the first trade is 425 lr
congchuabongdem: for 442 wu
veniondige: Alright.
congchuabongdem: when u r readyjust tell me ok
veniondige: Sorry I'm taking a while busy coding a script.
congchuabongdem: pls it is 1 am here
congchuabongdem: i already fell asleepwhen I chatted with u last time
veniondige: posted
veniondige: sorry omni disabled the plugin now ^.^
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: that s good
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: we will deal the trade for 850 lr
congchuabongdem: ok
veniondige: Okay.
veniondige: Please send over $0.25 to U5730543
veniondige: This is a test to make sure you get the right LR.
veniondige: $850 is too much to send to the wrong person to yeah.
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: what is the lr name pls
veniondige: tndige
congchuabongdem: sent
veniondige: Got it.
veniondige: Okay send the remainder to that ID.
veniondige: U5730543
veniondige: The name is tndige
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: I will split it into 2 payments
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: Yes.
veniondige: That's perfect.
congchuabongdem: one when u get it
congchuabongdem: I will ask him to send the first mtcn
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: 2nd when u get it there will be the 2nd mtcn
congchuabongdem: ok
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige: Okay.
congchuabongdem: sent 449.5
congchuabongdem: lr
veniondige: Got it.
congchuabongdem: it means he has to send me 467.48
congchuabongdem:
veniondige: Please inform him of your western union details.
congchuabongdem: ok
veniondige: Look here. https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=1298863
veniondige: My rules are simple.

1) I only do Lr/Wmz escrows. Which means no risk of charge backs for the buyer/seller as well as me.

2) My Escrow fees are flat 10%+ Transaction fees. If the Deal fails , the entire amount gets refunded back to the Buyer.

3) All deals are only and only done on HF Pm.
veniondige: All deals are done by HF pm... ggYou've just been scammed
congchuabongdem: what
congchuabongdem: u scammed me
congchuabongdem: ???
BUZZ!!!
congchuabongdem: what the fuck
congchuabongdem: how come u did like that to a girl
veniondige: Just kidding.
veniondige:
veniondige: That thread is out dated lol.
congchuabongdem: pls
congchuabongdem: man
congchuabongdem: it is 1 am here
congchuabongdem: no time for kidding
veniondige: Don't worry I'm not scamming...
veniondige: Sorry :/
congchuabongdem: i fell asleep already
congchuabongdem: u can see before I just logged in
veniondige: He has went to send right?
congchuabongdem: yes
congchuabongdem: i m waiting for him
congchuabongdem: he told me he gonna come back in around 15 min
congchuabongdem: right now the bank in vn is closed for lunch time
congchuabongdem: so I will wait for him to get the mtcn
congchuabongdem: and in 2 more hours the receiver will come to pick it up
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: when the bank open
congchuabongdem: I go to sleep after I got the mtcn and will let u know if the trade go through tomorrow
congchuabongdem: u agree
congchuabongdem: ?
veniondige đang trả lời
veniondige: Sure.
congchuabongdem: then after I let u know that the trade go through, u cansend thelr to him
congchuabongdem: he said he sent but he didnt give me the mtcn and any info
congchuabongdem: what are u guys doing
congchuabongdem: are u trying to scam me
BUZZ!!!
congchuabongdem: if u want to scam me
congchuabongdem: then u get it
congchuabongdem:
congchuabongdem: pls let me know that u scam me
congchuabongdem: cause I need to sleep
congchuabongdem: ok I understand
congchuabongdem: I will post in my topic this chat
congchuabongdem: and it means that u scammed me 450 lr

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maybe it is my mistake not to see the rules that are dealt over pm. but the fact is we are using him as escrow service and he confirmed it here and in his topic. so in this case, factor8 scammed. so it is up to u guys to trust him or not. but if it is me, I will never use his service again.
thanks

[Triumphant]

It's truly a shame you were scamming, just try be more careful in the future.

[ntm124]

it is not abt careful or not , he confirmed it.

[Triumphant]

No on factor8's thread he says he doesn't deal on yahoo hence why you should always ask for his email on pm. If he did not send you his email then it was not him, all the person was doing was manipulating Factor8 into posting to verify that the trade was going to happen never that he was veniondige.

[Louise]

"veniondige: Please send over the funds to U5730543 and tell me your WU details." That LR is not Factor8 LR .... i think you got scammed by one imposter ....

[ntm124]

yes at quite good timing. so tired