Oct 1, 2015 01:27 AM
(This post was last modified: Oct 1, 2015 03:28 AM by rrdein.)
Mediators
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Mediators is a new unofficial group, and we are looking for potential members who think they may be interested in joining this group. We are looking for a small number of mature members with a professional and helpful attitude to join our group, who do not have any notions of status associated with group membership, and who have no interest at all in joining a group just to say they are a member of a group. There are many, many, many far more prestigious groups than ours (hell, we don't even have a logo), who are much better at monetizing, and we aren't trying to pretend our group is worth all the trouble of applying. Nevertheless, this group is technically open for membership. The group will have a meeting place to chat, and possibly a forum elsewhere.
Stated Purpose: We are an unofficial programming-oriented group that uses mainly open-source languages within the bounds of the group. Some users may be directed to familiarize themselves with a programming language or web technology if they are lacking, and we will provide guidance on this. Besides what is stated above, our activities are entirely private, and our membership criteria is also private and known only to ourselves. There is an emphasis on loyalty and secrecy. This is far more important to us than the skillset you are coming with. Skills can be taught, but trust and loyalty cannot.
There is a long-term monetizing aspect to the group, but our actual goals are known only to a few trusted members, whose identities may or may not be known to other members. We may work on group projects for the purpose of monetizing, but not all members will be eligible to work on all projects. Some activities will be compartmentalized and known only to those who are involved in them. Our activities are secret for a reason, and that reason is only known by the highest-ranking members and the people involved in those activities. We have no interest in becoming popular on HF, we do not want badges or rep, and we do not desire any recognition for our activities. We work for ourselves, individually and as a group. We are an organization and will operate as one, and in an organization you do not spill company secrets.
Any member who is caught or suspected of discussing any group activities or interests outside the group, even the slightest comment in passing to their own mother, will be banned and will face swift repercussions from all members of the group. Every member is bound to the highest secrecy, even after they have been kicked out of the group, and the group will react in unison if a member violates that secrecy, in every possible way that we can conceive of. Every member is obliged to act in support of the group in order to protect the group and punish violators.
We will reach out to whomever we feel would be a fit for our group. The ultimate decision is entirely that of the highest-ranking group members, the status of whom may or may not be known by the group as a whole. There is a very long and unusual (emphasis on unusual) application that people can fill out below. The application should be PM'd, as there are some semi-personal questions you may not wish to answer publicly. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ANY PERSONAL QUESTIONS AT ALL IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO. ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL, BUT PLEASE SHARE AS MUCH AS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH. We may or may not answer your PM right away. If we do not answer, you may have been rejected, or we might be hanging onto your application for possible future membership.
We do not claim we are elite, important, or special or anything like that, and we are not trying to be bossy or get into people's business, nor are we trying to "judge" anyone. We ask personal questions because we like to get as wide picture of who the applicant is as possible. We want to know who you are personally. We do not think we are special and we aren't trying to upset anybody. All questions are totally optional, and we only want as much as you are comfortable giving us to help us get a feel for who you are. We are not in a huge rush to get members, and we are looking for people who are willing to put trust in the group even if they are not privy to all of its activities. We want loyal people we can trust, and who trust us. We are looking for applicants, who may be screened further or asked for additional information. Nobody has to answer any questions if they don't want to, and we are not trying to say that we "deserve" this information. Many of these questions are just to get people to open up a bit. Trust and secrecy are very important to us, and we would rather never grow as a group than to grow in the wrong ways with the wrong kind of people. This is not a casual group just for the purpose of having a group, and we really want to know who we are dealing with. Do not give us answers you think we want to hear, because if we suspect you are lying we will probably pass on you. If you don't want to answer a question honestly, it is best to not answer it at all. If you aren't comfortable sharing information, please do not give it to us because we don't want it.
We need programmers and web designers/developers, or people who are willing to actively learn in those areas. If this is not you, you may be eligible if you are willing to take some personal time to educate yourself (your progress will be periodically reviewed). We will provide you with a well-defined learning path including learning materials, and we will periodically check that you are sticking with it and making progress. Generally you would benefit from this learning in a general way that would be applicable outside the group. We will try to give you a learning path that is both relevant to the goals of the group, and relevant to your own learning goals. If you really have an interest in web design we will probably guide you into HTML and CSS, and maybe design theory, and not ask you to learn Java, for example.
--------------- Application Below -------------------------
PERSONAL QUESTIONS
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-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
What is your username:
What is your age:
What is your ethnicity:
What country or countries, do you feel most loyal to?
What are your hobbies:
Where do you live (be as specific as you are comfortable with, but PLEASE do not give us your address):
Describe your current employment or educational pursuits:
Descript your past employment or educational pursuits:
Describe your belief system or general worldview:
Do you have a religion or spiritual practice? Please describe any religious or spiritual background:
What is your political alignment (left/right, conservative/liberal), if any:
Are you a member of any social organizations?:
Describe your short-term and long-term goals in your life:
Describe your view of morals in general:
Do you have any personal ideas of right/wrong, and if so please describe what such ideas you are motivated by (you are not being judged right or wrong here):
In real life, would you say your are a social creature, or are you more or a lone wolf:
Who controls what you see on TV?
Name every country and/or state you have ever been to:
What is your favorite TV show?:
What TV show do you catch most frequently:
Are you humble? What does this mean to you?:
SOMEWHAT-MORE RELEVANT QUESTIONS
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-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
Describe your education and which school(s) beyond college (if any) you have attended:
What programming languages do you know, and how skilled are you with each language (on a scale of 1 to 5):
Describe your current and past employment in detail (we just want to know, you won't be disqualified solely for a lack of past employment):
Describe anything you have programmed in the past that you thought was cool, however simple. Please describe the technologies used:
What is the most "hackerish" thing you have ever done?:
Have you ever been accused of scamming? (we are willing to hear your side of the story, it is not necessarily an automatic disqualification, but you must be honest):
Are you willing to be as helpful as possible in a group forum, to aid other members in their own goals, by answering questions and giving guidance where you are able?:
Provide the source code and a description of any program or script you have written before, if there is one (not critical; you don't have to be a programmer, but you should be interested in learning programming or a relevant skill, with a little bit of help):
Are you willing to learn something for your own good, if you are assigned to learn it, even if it takes some time and you don't immediately see why it's important?:
Are there any technical skills you would really like to learn?:
Are you someone who can keep a secret?:
Are you trustworthy:
When is it okay to lie?:
Have you lied on this application?:
Are you someone who can tolerate being "outside the loop" of the group's most secret activities, without becoming bitter about it?:
Describe a situation in your life that taught you the importance of keeping a secret, even when sharing it seems completely harmless:
What do you think is a fitting punishment for someone who betrays the secrecy of the group?:
**** PM THESE ****
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Mediators is a new unofficial group, and we are looking for potential members who think they may be interested in joining this group. We are looking for a small number of mature members with a professional and helpful attitude to join our group, who do not have any notions of status associated with group membership, and who have no interest at all in joining a group just to say they are a member of a group. There are many, many, many far more prestigious groups than ours (hell, we don't even have a logo), who are much better at monetizing, and we aren't trying to pretend our group is worth all the trouble of applying. Nevertheless, this group is technically open for membership. The group will have a meeting place to chat, and possibly a forum elsewhere.
Stated Purpose: We are an unofficial programming-oriented group that uses mainly open-source languages within the bounds of the group. Some users may be directed to familiarize themselves with a programming language or web technology if they are lacking, and we will provide guidance on this. Besides what is stated above, our activities are entirely private, and our membership criteria is also private and known only to ourselves. There is an emphasis on loyalty and secrecy. This is far more important to us than the skillset you are coming with. Skills can be taught, but trust and loyalty cannot.
There is a long-term monetizing aspect to the group, but our actual goals are known only to a few trusted members, whose identities may or may not be known to other members. We may work on group projects for the purpose of monetizing, but not all members will be eligible to work on all projects. Some activities will be compartmentalized and known only to those who are involved in them. Our activities are secret for a reason, and that reason is only known by the highest-ranking members and the people involved in those activities. We have no interest in becoming popular on HF, we do not want badges or rep, and we do not desire any recognition for our activities. We work for ourselves, individually and as a group. We are an organization and will operate as one, and in an organization you do not spill company secrets.
Any member who is caught or suspected of discussing any group activities or interests outside the group, even the slightest comment in passing to their own mother, will be banned and will face swift repercussions from all members of the group. Every member is bound to the highest secrecy, even after they have been kicked out of the group, and the group will react in unison if a member violates that secrecy, in every possible way that we can conceive of. Every member is obliged to act in support of the group in order to protect the group and punish violators.
We will reach out to whomever we feel would be a fit for our group. The ultimate decision is entirely that of the highest-ranking group members, the status of whom may or may not be known by the group as a whole. There is a very long and unusual (emphasis on unusual) application that people can fill out below. The application should be PM'd, as there are some semi-personal questions you may not wish to answer publicly. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER ANY PERSONAL QUESTIONS AT ALL IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO. ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL, BUT PLEASE SHARE AS MUCH AS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH. We may or may not answer your PM right away. If we do not answer, you may have been rejected, or we might be hanging onto your application for possible future membership.
We do not claim we are elite, important, or special or anything like that, and we are not trying to be bossy or get into people's business, nor are we trying to "judge" anyone. We ask personal questions because we like to get as wide picture of who the applicant is as possible. We want to know who you are personally. We do not think we are special and we aren't trying to upset anybody. All questions are totally optional, and we only want as much as you are comfortable giving us to help us get a feel for who you are. We are not in a huge rush to get members, and we are looking for people who are willing to put trust in the group even if they are not privy to all of its activities. We want loyal people we can trust, and who trust us. We are looking for applicants, who may be screened further or asked for additional information. Nobody has to answer any questions if they don't want to, and we are not trying to say that we "deserve" this information. Many of these questions are just to get people to open up a bit. Trust and secrecy are very important to us, and we would rather never grow as a group than to grow in the wrong ways with the wrong kind of people. This is not a casual group just for the purpose of having a group, and we really want to know who we are dealing with. Do not give us answers you think we want to hear, because if we suspect you are lying we will probably pass on you. If you don't want to answer a question honestly, it is best to not answer it at all. If you aren't comfortable sharing information, please do not give it to us because we don't want it.
We need programmers and web designers/developers, or people who are willing to actively learn in those areas. If this is not you, you may be eligible if you are willing to take some personal time to educate yourself (your progress will be periodically reviewed). We will provide you with a well-defined learning path including learning materials, and we will periodically check that you are sticking with it and making progress. Generally you would benefit from this learning in a general way that would be applicable outside the group. We will try to give you a learning path that is both relevant to the goals of the group, and relevant to your own learning goals. If you really have an interest in web design we will probably guide you into HTML and CSS, and maybe design theory, and not ask you to learn Java, for example.
--------------- Application Below -------------------------
PERSONAL QUESTIONS
===================
-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
What is your username:
What is your age:
What is your ethnicity:
What country or countries, do you feel most loyal to?
What are your hobbies:
Where do you live (be as specific as you are comfortable with, but PLEASE do not give us your address):
Describe your current employment or educational pursuits:
Descript your past employment or educational pursuits:
Describe your belief system or general worldview:
Do you have a religion or spiritual practice? Please describe any religious or spiritual background:
What is your political alignment (left/right, conservative/liberal), if any:
Are you a member of any social organizations?:
Describe your short-term and long-term goals in your life:
Describe your view of morals in general:
Do you have any personal ideas of right/wrong, and if so please describe what such ideas you are motivated by (you are not being judged right or wrong here):
In real life, would you say your are a social creature, or are you more or a lone wolf:
Who controls what you see on TV?
Name every country and/or state you have ever been to:
What is your favorite TV show?:
What TV show do you catch most frequently:
Are you humble? What does this mean to you?:
SOMEWHAT-MORE RELEVANT QUESTIONS
=================================
-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
-= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =--= ALL QUESTIONS ARE OPTIONAL =-
Describe your education and which school(s) beyond college (if any) you have attended:
What programming languages do you know, and how skilled are you with each language (on a scale of 1 to 5):
Describe your current and past employment in detail (we just want to know, you won't be disqualified solely for a lack of past employment):
Describe anything you have programmed in the past that you thought was cool, however simple. Please describe the technologies used:
What is the most "hackerish" thing you have ever done?:
Have you ever been accused of scamming? (we are willing to hear your side of the story, it is not necessarily an automatic disqualification, but you must be honest):
Are you willing to be as helpful as possible in a group forum, to aid other members in their own goals, by answering questions and giving guidance where you are able?:
Provide the source code and a description of any program or script you have written before, if there is one (not critical; you don't have to be a programmer, but you should be interested in learning programming or a relevant skill, with a little bit of help):
Are you willing to learn something for your own good, if you are assigned to learn it, even if it takes some time and you don't immediately see why it's important?:
Are there any technical skills you would really like to learn?:
Are you someone who can keep a secret?:
Are you trustworthy:
When is it okay to lie?:
Have you lied on this application?:
Are you someone who can tolerate being "outside the loop" of the group's most secret activities, without becoming bitter about it?:
Describe a situation in your life that taught you the importance of keeping a secret, even when sharing it seems completely harmless:
What do you think is a fitting punishment for someone who betrays the secrecy of the group?:
**** PM THESE ****
