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Cryptography, Encryption, and Decryption - Create Subforum for Crypters - sarciszewski - Jun 22, 2015
Most of the threads in the Cryptography, Encryption, and Decryption forum pertain to crypters; whose purpose is to evade antivirus detection and frustrate reverse engineering efforts.
This is a little disappointing. There is a wide and deep range of topics that can be discussed in the realm of cryptography, even outside the scope of ciphers and hash functions.
- Information entropy
- One Time Pads
- Cryptographically secure randomness
- Diffie Hellman key agreement schemes
- Digital signature schemes
- Block cipher modes of operation
- Message Authentication Codes
- AEAD constructions
- Padding oracle attacks
- Chosen plaintext attacks
- Chosen ciphertext attacks
- Stripping opportunistic encryption
- Timing attacks
- Cache-timing attacks (and other variants, e.g. FLUSH+RELOAD)
- Twist-secure elliptic curve parameter choices
I propose all talk about Crypters (including the stickies) be migrated to a dedicated subforum of Cryptography, Encryption, and Decryption; and we focus the parent forum on this rich and diverse field of study.
* - d4rkj4y - Jun 22, 2015
I made a thread about this a while back.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=2045696
It's a good idea, no doubt.
* - Niko - Jun 22, 2015
I like your Idea, I have thought about this a bit, It would be great.
* - 0sLay - Jun 22, 2015
Great idea this would allow for more discussion on Cryptography instead of just threads asking what type of crypter to use and threads of that nature.
* - methodd - Jun 22, 2015
legit idea, very creative.
* - sarciszewski - Jun 22, 2015
(Jun 22, 2015 07:34 PM)d4rkJ4y Wrote: I made a thread about this a while back.Hah! Great minds think alike! (Feel free to PM me if you'd like to talk about cryptography stuff in a noise-free environment in the meantime.)
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=2045696
It's a good idea, no doubt.
(Jun 22, 2015 07:36 PM)LegitBytes Wrote: I like your Idea, I have thought about this a bit, It would be great.Thanks! :D
(Jun 22, 2015 07:37 PM)0651 Wrote: Great idea this would allow for more discussion on Cryptography instead of just threads asking what type of crypter to use and threads of that nature.Cryptanalysis is a lot more fun than evading antivirus. (You often don't even need to encrypt to evade AV, and a dedicated reverse engineer will break your encryption anyway. It has to decrypt to execute!)
(Jun 22, 2015 07:48 PM)methodd Wrote: legit idea, very creative.Thanks, but apparently it's not an original notion either. :)
* - Aiba - Jun 22, 2015
Noble of you but it will get denied :c
* - sarciszewski - Jun 22, 2015
(Jun 22, 2015 08:35 PM)Aiba Wrote: Noble of you but it will get denied :c
Is there any particular reason you believe it will get denied? I believe this would be a vast improvement in the organization of topics on HN, and it's a rather simple change to the architecture. The benefit will be a better signal:noise ratio for people interested in cryptology, which leads to better communication and better relationships.
In short, the community as a whole will benefit from this choice.
* - GenericSkid - Jun 22, 2015
The section is cancerous but unfortunately it'll stay that way (edit: for awhile at least. May split later). Been suggested a few times before with lots of support.
* - sarciszewski - Jun 22, 2015
(Jun 22, 2015 08:40 PM)Lord Pankake Wrote: The section is cancerous but unfortunately it'll stay that way. Been suggested a few times before with lots of support.Were any of these previous suggestions explicitly rejected? If so, what was the reason for the rejection? (If it's a lack of manpower, I'm willing to put some skin in the game and volunteer to help.)
* - crazyycast13 - Jun 22, 2015
We already got this suggestion approved, if you want to discuss things like this post threads into the hashing and ciphers section.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4828965 <-suggestion thread
* - sarciszewski - Jun 22, 2015
(Jun 22, 2015 10:39 PM)crazyycast13 Wrote: We already got this suggestion approved, if you want to discuss things like this post threads into the hashing and ciphers section.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4828965 <-suggestion thread
Already did, actually, but...
My request is actually distinct from this one. I'd much rather see all of the crypter talk get moved into a subforum. Cryptography is much more than ciphers and hashes. See the list I gave in the OP for example.
* - crazyycast13 - Jun 22, 2015
(Jun 22, 2015 10:53 PM)binary_paroxysm Wrote: Already did, actually, but...
My request is actually distinct from this one. I'd much rather see all of the crypter talk get moved into a subforum. Cryptography is much more than ciphers and hashes. See the list I gave in the OP for example.
Read through the entire thread and see that I completely agree with you. I wanted something just for crypters, and what we have now is what we have now.
* - sarciszewski - Jun 22, 2015
(Jun 22, 2015 11:04 PM)crazyycast13 Wrote: Read through the entire thread and see that I completely agree with you. I wanted something just for crypters, and what we have now is what we have now.
I see. You're right. I misunderstood your post.
* - Тоху - Jun 24, 2015
Support the notion wholeheartedly.