[sarciszewski]

Most of the threads in the Cryptography, Encryption, and Decryption forum pertain to crypters; whose purpose is to evade antivirus detection and frustrate reverse engineering efforts.

This is a little disappointing. There is a wide and deep range of topics that can be discussed in the realm of cryptography, even outside the scope of ciphers and hash functions.

• Information entropy
  


• One Time Pads
  


• Cryptographically secure randomness
  


• Diffie Hellman key agreement schemes
  


• Digital signature schemes
  


• Block cipher modes of operation
  


• Message Authentication Codes
  


• AEAD constructions
  


• Padding oracle attacks
  


• Chosen plaintext attacks
  


• Chosen ciphertext attacks
  


• Stripping opportunistic encryption
  


• Timing attacks
  


• Cache-timing attacks (and other variants, e.g. FLUSH+RELOAD)
  


• Twist-secure elliptic curve parameter choices
  

I propose all talk about Crypters (including the stickies) be migrated to a dedicated subforum of Cryptography, Encryption, and Decryption; and we focus the parent forum on this rich and diverse field of study.

[d4rkj4y]

I made a thread about this a while back.

https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=2045696

It's a good idea, no doubt.

[Niko]

I like your Idea, I have thought about this a bit, It would be great.

[0sLay]

Great idea this would allow for more discussion on Cryptography instead of just threads asking what type of crypter to use and threads of that nature.

[methodd]

legit idea, very creative.

[sarciszewski]

I made a thread about this a while back.

https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=2045696

It's a good idea, no doubt.

Hah! Great minds think alike! (Feel free to PM me if you'd like to talk about cryptography stuff in a noise-free environment in the meantime.)

I like your Idea, I have thought about this a bit, It would be great.

Thanks! :D

Great idea this would allow for more discussion on Cryptography instead of just threads asking what type of crypter to use and threads of that nature.

Cryptanalysis is a lot more fun than evading antivirus. (You often don't even need to encrypt to evade AV, and a dedicated reverse engineer will break your encryption anyway. It has to decrypt to execute!)

legit idea, very creative.

Thanks, but apparently it's not an original notion either. :)

[Aiba]

Noble of you but it will get denied :c

[sarciszewski]

Noble of you but it will get denied :c

Is there any particular reason you believe it will get denied? I believe this would be a vast improvement in the organization of topics on HN, and it's a rather simple change to the architecture. The benefit will be a better signal:noise ratio for people interested in cryptology, which leads to better communication and better relationships.

In short, the community as a whole will benefit from this choice.

[GenericSkid]

The section is cancerous but unfortunately it'll stay that way (edit: for awhile at least. May split later). Been suggested a few times before with lots of support.

[sarciszewski]

The section is cancerous but unfortunately it'll stay that way. Been suggested a few times before with lots of support.

Were any of these previous suggestions explicitly rejected? If so, what was the reason for the rejection? (If it's a lack of manpower, I'm willing to put some skin in the game and volunteer to help.)

[crazyycast13]

We already got this suggestion approved, if you want to discuss things like this post threads into the hashing and ciphers section.

https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4828965 <-suggestion thread

[sarciszewski]

We already got this suggestion approved, if you want to discuss things like this post threads into the hashing and ciphers section.

https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4828965 <-suggestion thread

Already did, actually, but...

My request is actually distinct from this one. I'd much rather see all of the crypter talk get moved into a subforum. Cryptography is much more than ciphers and hashes. See the list I gave in the OP for example.

[crazyycast13]

Already did, actually, but...

My request is actually distinct from this one. I'd much rather see all of the crypter talk get moved into a subforum. Cryptography is much more than ciphers and hashes. See the list I gave in the OP for example.

Read through the entire thread and see that I completely agree with you. I wanted something just for crypters, and what we have now is what we have now.

[sarciszewski]

Read through the entire thread and see that I completely agree with you. I wanted something just for crypters, and what we have now is what we have now.

I see. You're right. I misunderstood your post.

[Тоху]

Support the notion wholeheartedly.