(Apr 22, 2019 05:49 PM)raggaescience Wrote: Right but I actually want to be good at hacking. Maybe even good in a few areas and that’s it. I see your point.
I’ll just see what interests me and stick to that. I want to get good so probably I will just stick with web hacking. I think I see your point. So your saying being good at everything is a stupid goal.
I think I see your point.
What if I want to be especially good at three things and just know basics of the rest?
my point isn't that you should stick to one thing. my point is that you should do things as you feel fit. there's no right path, and there's no wrong path. there are only paths, and your path can follow someone else's path if you really want, but it doesn't have to, since it's very unlikely that someone else's path will be exactly what you want and what you're looking at doing.
if you want to stick to one thing, stick to one thing. if you want to stick to three things and have a general understanding of others, then do that. my point isn't that one of these is inherently worse than any other, since they really aren't that different as long as you're still learning something. you clearly already have a set of goals in mind as i'm writing this out. so follow those goals instead of worrying about the path you 'need' to take.
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Apr 22, 2019 07:10 PM
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(Apr 22, 2019 06:14 PM)Faith Connors Wrote: my point isn't that you should stick to one thing. my point is that you should do things as you feel fit. there's no right path, and there's no wrong path. there are only paths, and your path can follow someone else's path if you really want, but it doesn't have to, since it's very unlikely that someone else's path will be exactly what you want and what you're looking at doing.
if you want to stick to one thing, stick to one thing. if you want to stick to three things and have a general understanding of others, then do that. my point isn't that one of these is inherently worse than any other, since they really aren't that different as long as you're still learning something. you clearly already have a set of goals in mind as i'm writing this out. so follow those goals instead of worrying about the path you 'need' to take.
So if my goal was to be good at these three, so I could be good for bug bounties and hacking on the web:
hacking Skype, IRC, etc. and other chat rooms
web/database hacking
browser hacking
And that's it for specialities and then I would want to know the basics of:
Hack the Box
network hacking
Would that be a realistic goal to be good at those five things but be more skilled in the first three, especially web hacking? Then I just want to be up to date in the other two and know what I'm doing with them.
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(Apr 18, 2019 10:37 PM)raggaescience Wrote: python hacking
C++ hacking
what exactly is this?
(Apr 22, 2019 07:10 PM)raggaescience Wrote: So if my goal was to be good at these three, so I could be good for bug bounties and hacking on the web:
hacking Skype, IRC, etc. and other chat rooms
web/database hacking
browser hacking
And that's it for specialities and then I would want to know the basics of:
Hack the Box
network hacking
Would that be a realistic goal to be good at those five things but be more skilled in the first three, especially web hacking? Then I just want to be up to date in the other two and know what I'm doing with them.
anything is a realistic goal as long as what you want to do is realistic
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(Apr 22, 2019 07:40 PM)Faith Connors Wrote: anything is a realistic goal as long as what you want to do is realistic
But is learning all five of those things a realistic thing to do in a few years? I think I can do it, I just have to work really hard. Do you agree?
(Apr 22, 2019 09:46 PM)raggaescience Wrote: But is learning all five of those things a realistic thing to do in a few years? I think I can do it, I just have to work really hard. Do you agree?
is it possible to learn five things? yes
therefore, learning five things is a realistic goal, yes
it's really not that deep. you're overthinking things.
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(Apr 22, 2019 09:50 PM)Faith Connors Wrote: is it possible to learn five things? yes
therefore, learning five things is a realistic goal, yes
it's really not that deep. you're overthinking things.
But to actually be good at all five is a different story right?
(Apr 22, 2019 09:52 PM)raggaescience Wrote: But to actually be good at all five is a different story right?
no different than being good at five subfields of any other subject (ie. understanding five programming languages at a high level for compsci)
and ik some absolutely idiotic putrid cunt will try and counter with 'but lerning languages is ezpz once u kno one" so i'll counter now
the logic remains over the course of learning all languages as a fundamental. the problem solving remains over the course of learning how to program. occasionally you forget things and look them up as reference. same thing goes for fields of hacking in which nothing is truly 'exclusive' aside from a few nuanced things but there are lots of fundamentals (ie. networking) that remain no matter what field you study.
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(Apr 18, 2019 10:51 PM)raggaescience Wrote: Define "actual hacking." And yes I want to do bug bounties the most so I know one of my specialties is gonna be web hacking. My question is just is that it or how many and which additional areas do you recommend for usefulness?
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I would say all of them, but I really tend to stick to web applications since that's a way to earn money in the end too with bug bounties.
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(Apr 25, 2019 03:45 PM)Sitrep Wrote: I would say all of them, but I really tend to stick to web applications since that's a way to earn money in the end too with bug bounties.
Yeah, ok. So then I will probably learn web hacking first.
I really think the WiFi Pineapple is cool. But yeah I agree that web hacking is probably a lot more fun.
So yeah, I am going to probably start by learning web hacking.
Its a good idea.
Thanks for letting me know that.
Probably WiFi hacking will be the one I learn after I get through web hacking first. I just need to become proficient in web hacking first thing.
Thanks for the advice.
Is there money to be made browser hacking or mobile app hacking?
(Apr 25, 2019 07:28 PM)raggaescience Wrote: Yeah, ok. So then I will probably learn web hacking first.
I really think the WiFi Pineapple is cool. But yeah I agree that web hacking is probably a lot more fun.
So yeah, I am going to probably start by learning web hacking.
Its a good idea.
Thanks for letting me know that.
Probably WiFi hacking will be the one I learn after I get through web hacking first. I just need to become proficient in web hacking first thing.
Thanks for the advice.
Is there money to be made browser hacking or mobile app hacking?
To be honest, the main thing is that you personally have fun when you hack. That's the best way to learn! So go for the Pineapple first if that's what you want!
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(Apr 25, 2019 07:34 PM)Sitrep Wrote: To be honest, the main thing is that you personally have fun when you hack. That's the best way to learn! So go for the Pineapple first if that's what you want!
I really would rather learn wifi hacking before the pineapple but I really do think web hacking is the thing to learn first because I want to do bug hunting.
But I strongly believe no one should use the Pineapple unless they can already hack WiFi the basic way.
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