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Upgrade To MyBB 1.9.xx?

(Jul 29, 2018 05:44 PM)Bluffer Wrote:  End of october 2017 it was.

Yeah and OP is from July and yet knows a lot 😧
Considering the size of the forum, I do not think upgrading the MyBB version would be a good idea, it will be a burden to manage. I think if they ever did consider upgrading, it would probably be better to just move over to a custom and in-house forum system, which would allow for easier customization.
(Jul 29, 2018 05:46 PM)Evanescent Wrote:  Yeah and OP is from July and yet knows a lot  😧

Re-read post #12.

(Jul 29, 2018 05:46 PM)WageWolf Wrote:  Considering the size of the forum, I do not think upgrading the MyBB version would be a good idea, it will be a burden to manage. I think if they ever did consider upgrading, it would probably be better to just move over to a custom and in-house forum system, which would allow for easier customization.

The size of the forum wasn't the real issue when Omniscient finally upgraded last autumn.

The real issue was the long span of time between upgrades.

Going from 1.6.xx to 1.8.xx is problematic regardless of the size of the website.

It's far easier to do incremental updates than it is to do major version upgrades.
(Jul 29, 2018 05:54 PM)AeroForce Wrote:  Re-read post #12.


The size of the forum wasn't the real issue when Omniscient finally upgraded last autumn.

The real issue was the long span of time between upgrades.

Going from 1.6.xx to 1.8.xx is problematic regardless of the size of the website.

It's far easier to do incremental updates than it is to do major version upgrades.

Can you link it to me?
Just curious.
(Jul 29, 2018 05:54 PM)AeroForce Wrote:  Re-read post #12.


The size of the forum wasn't the real issue when Omniscient finally upgraded last autumn.

The real issue was the long span of time between upgrades.

Going from 1.6.xx to 1.8.xx is problematic regardless of the size of the website.

It's far easier to do incremental updates than it is to do major version upgrades.

Oh, okay. I was not around back then, and I figured it was just a user-size thing. True, 1.6 to 1.8 is a big jump there.
(Jul 29, 2018 05:54 PM)AeroForce Wrote:  The size of the forum wasn't the real issue when Omniscient finally upgraded last autumn.

The real issue was the long span of time between upgrades.

(Jul 29, 2018 06:03 PM)WageWolf Wrote:  Oh, okay. I was not around back then, and I figured it was just a user-size thing. True, 1.6 to 1.8 is a big jump there.

It's a user-size thing too. HF's Database is HUGE. We had extended downtime thanks to database migration issues.

MyBB 1.6 --> 1.8 will be faster to upgrade on a forum of 10,000 posts compared to HF's 37,106,139 posts. Not the only issue but it is one of the many.
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(Jul 29, 2018 07:18 PM)Hydra Wrote:  It's a user-size thing too. HF's Database is HUGE. We had extended downtime thanks to database migration issues.

MyBB 1.6 --> 1.8 will be faster to upgrade on a forum of 10,000 posts compared to HF's 37,106,139 posts. Not the only issue but it is one of the many.

Understood, yeah that makes more sense.
Just an FYI, it was mainly because Omni left it so long before upgrading from 1.6 to 1.8. MyBB 1.8 to 1.9 will actually be a bigger leap. When MyBB 1.9x comes out the PHP requirement will be bumped up to 7.2 (or 7.1 I think it was). This (and the TWIG conversion) will see most of HF's plugins break. The rest of the upgrade can be prepped on a clone of HF as 1.9 introduces a new way to handle themes, and it should actually decrease the amount of plugins HF uses which is always a plus.

A major problem is that Omni also does core edits. If he can use the Patches plugin or create his own version as he only likes to use his own work, core edits will be so much easier to track and re-implement upon upgrading MyBB to any version.
omni will freak out again we'll lose more stuff from the downtime
rip bakanews :(
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(Jul 29, 2018 06:03 PM)Evanescent Wrote:  Can you link it to me?
Just curious.

Exactly, what do you want me to link?

Besides, due to user restrictions, I cannot provide links.

You'll have to do your own Search on here or at MyBB.com and look for the user 'l a b r o c c a' (without the spaces) and search his posts. Everything is there.

(Jul 29, 2018 11:50 PM)Wires Wrote:  Just an FYI, it was mainly because Omni left it so long before upgrading from 1.6 to 1.8. MyBB 1.8 to 1.9 will actually be a bigger leap.

That's pretty much what I said in post #18.

(Jul 29, 2018 11:50 PM)Wires Wrote:  When MyBB 1.9x comes out the PHP requirement will be bumped up to 7.2 (or 7.1 I think it was). This (and the TWIG conversion) will see most of HF's plugins break. The rest of the upgrade can be prepped on a clone of HF as 1.9 introduces a new way to handle themes, and it should actually decrease the amount of plugins HF uses which is always a plus.

I believe the minimum requirement for PHP will be 7.1. I just recently bumped up my website to PHP 7.1. So, I am good to go when 1.9.xx does come out.

(Jul 29, 2018 11:50 PM)Wires Wrote:  A major problem is that Omni also does core edits. If he can use the Patches plugin or create his own version as he only likes to use his own work, core edits will be so much easier to track and re-implement upon upgrading MyBB to any version.

The real question is... is Omni willing to take the time to do all of this?

He may say 'Screw 1.9.xx' and use 1.8.xx for the foreseeable future. (which would be a major mistake in my opinion)

Time will tell, I guess.


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