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(Dec 14, 2017 10:21 AM)M4TB Wrote:  I have yet to receive any paypal so far. I think its unfair that he agreed upon the rate and is now changing the rate. I purposely agreed on the rate with him in advance due to the volatility that is bitcoin.

Oh really ?

You told me "Btc Sent"

But i didn't received them instantly, so i told you this. https://gyazo.com/2dff0d0566a5f8f0a54340...693f486225

Transaction id = Time when i got the bitcoin = https://gyazo.com/06a131c21c497e51f6521eef3eea4845

Amount is "$98.78" And i'll stick to my point.

You're not eligible for the amount you've claimed.  😠

I don't care about $8-9, I can refund you the same amount i got in btc + i will cover fee also from my end.
But i'll stick to my point.
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(Dec 14, 2017 10:33 AM)Honey Singh Wrote:  Oh really ?

You told me "Btc Sent"

But i didn't received them instantly, so i told you this. https://gyazo.com/2dff0d0566a5f8f0a54340...693f486225

Transaction id = Time when i got the bitcoin = https://gyazo.com/06a131c21c497e51f6521eef3eea4845

Amount is "$98.78" And i'll stick to my point.

You're not eligible for the amount you've claimed.  😠

I don't care about $8-9, I can refund you the same amount i got in btc + i will cover fee.
But i'll stick to my point.

You've agreed on a BTC  rate.
He sent you the BTC iregardless of it's current value.
BTC is currently not stable and many wallets have issues, it's not his fault.

You owe the man money.
(Dec 14, 2017 10:37 AM)♔Nebo♔ Wrote:  You've agreed on a BTC  rate.
He sent you the BTC iregardless of it's current value.
BTC is currently not stable and many wallets have issues, it's not his fault.

You owe the man money.

Yes but he sent the money after few hours later.
Not my issue.

I was agreed on the current rates and he sent the money after 4-7 hours later.
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(Dec 14, 2017 10:33 AM)Honey Singh Wrote:  Oh really ?

You told me "Btc Sent"

But i didn't received them instantly, so i told you this. https://gyazo.com/2dff0d0566a5f8f0a54340...693f486225

Transaction id = Time when i got the bitcoin = https://gyazo.com/06a131c21c497e51f6521eef3eea4845

Amount is "$98.78" And i'll stick to my point.

You're not eligible for the amount you've claimed.  😠

I don't care about $8-9, I can refund you the same amount i got in btc + i will cover fee also from my end.
But i'll stick to my point.

first of all that image was sent before i even sent it. Secondly as you can see in the OP YOU AGREED UPON THE RATE.

are you telling me if bitcoin doubled over night u would have sent me 212.08$? or wud u have said that no the rate we agreed upon means 106.04$? Funny how you change ur mind based on what gives u more money.

WE AGREED ON A RATE BEFORE I SENT TO STOP THIS CONFUSION. yet you make it confusing. I dont want a refund in BTC after ive already lost 14$ in transaction fees.

Either send me a full 0.00687904 BTC back. or pay me the 106.04$ USD PP that you owe me.

you claim to not care about 8-9$ yet this dispute is still up im still not paid. and youre still arguing over it.
(Dec 14, 2017 10:40 AM)M4TB Wrote:  first of all that image was sent before i even sent it. Secondly as you can see in the OP YOU AGREED UPON THE RATE.

are you telling me if bitcoin doubled over night u would have sent me 212.08$? or wud u have said that no the rate we agreed upon means 106.04$? Funny how you change ur mind based on what gives u more money.

WE AGREED ON A RATE BEFORE I SENT TO STOP THIS CONFUSION. yet you make it confusing. I dont want a refund in BTC after ive already lost 14$ in transaction fees.

Either send me a full 0.00687904 BTC back. or pay me the 106.04$ USD PP that you owe me.

you claim to not care about 8-9$ yet this dispute is still up im still not paid. and youre still arguing over it.

I would have sent double,
Clearly mentioned in my exchange terms and rules.
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(Dec 14, 2017 10:41 AM)Honey Singh Wrote:  I would have sent double,
Clearly mentioned in my exchange terms and rules.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4845984

If you are playing by those rules you should have CLEARLY indicated this is what was going to occur instead of agreeing on a rate. I sent u the BTC on my end within minutes of agreeing upon rate and verifying your identity via PM. you are going against your word and the agreed upon rate.

I have yet to receive any paypal whatsoever.
I'll stick to my point,
You sent money after 3-5 hours. Deal was instantly.

You have 2 options.
I'll pay $98.78 according to the transaction link = https://blockchain.info/tx/3f8bf5e7a7e8a...c934ac8b77
or the amount I've got in bitcoin + i will cover bitcoin fee from my end.
I don't care about the money but sorry rules are rules.

Message when we agreed on rates = https://gyazo.com/dde828928d38147bc51cabc49b3116d0

Time when i got the bitcoin = https://gyazo.com/06a131c21c497e51f6521eef3eea4845
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h ttps://gyazo.com/deffa0559087352e4995bac4977e6b55

user continue to not want to refund me the rightful amount. Yet has a shitload of money and argues over 8$ when he is in the wrong.
(Dec 14, 2017 10:48 AM)M4TB Wrote:  h ttps://gyazo.com/deffa0559087352e4995bac4977e6b55

user continue to not want to refund me the rightful amount. Yet has a shitload of money and argues over 8$ when he is in the wrong.

I'll stick to my point, 
You sent money after 3-5 hours. You never sent me money instantly.

You have 2 options.
I'll pay $98.78 according to the transaction link = https://blockchain.info/tx/3f8bf5e7a7e8a...c934ac8b77
or the amount I've got in bitcoin + i will cover bitcoin fee from my end.
I don't care about the money but sorry rules are rules.

Check time !
When we agreed on rates = https://gyazo.com/dde828928d38147bc51cabc49b3116d0

When i got the bitcoin = https://gyazo.com/06a131c21c497e51f6521eef3eea4845
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Lol, Honey, you bastard. You're calling the guy poor, yet you won't fork over the additional few dollars that he rightfully exchanged for. People always have trouble with your exchange service, and I'm not quite sure how you're still around. Give him the money that you both agreed on and stop being a stingy prick.
(Dec 14, 2017 10:53 AM)Lukas Wrote:  Lol, Honey, you bastard. You're calling the guy poor, yet you won't fork over the additional few dollars that he rightfully exchanged for. People always have trouble with your exchange service, and I'm not quite sure how you're still around. Give him the money that you both agreed on and stop being a stingy prick.

I'll stick to my point, 
User sent money after 3-5 hours. User never sent me money instantly.

User have 2 options.
I'll pay $98.78 according to the transaction link = https://blockchain.info/tx/3f8bf5e7a7e8a...c934ac8b77
or the amount I've got in bitcoin + i will cover bitcoin fee from my end.
I don't care about the money but sorry rules are rules.

Check time !
When we agreed on rates = https://gyazo.com/dde828928d38147bc51cabc49b3116d0

When i got the bitcoin = https://gyazo.com/06a131c21c497e51f6521eef3eea4845
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(Dec 14, 2017 10:45 AM)M4TB Wrote:  If you are playing by those rules you should have CLEARLY indicated this is what was going to occur instead of agreeing on a rate. I sent u the BTC on my end within minutes of agreeing upon rate and verifying your identity via PM. you are going against your word and the agreed upon rate.

I have yet to receive any paypal whatsoever.

You don't know how HF marketplace works.

ELI5 incoming! 

HoneySingh has a thread. 
In his exchange thread he can write whatever rules he wants for his currency exchanges and by accepting the deal with him you're automatically obliged to listen to his rules since he's reputable and you are not. 

Since you sent him the BTC within minutes and it was an delay on Coinbase's part, you'd expect the seller to do the right thing and give you your money on the agreed upon rate. 

I mean, it's not like you could predict what would happen.  
Any person that values their moral quality would do the right thing and give you your money. I mean, business can take a loss sometimes due to unforeseen circumstances. It's kinda the responsibility of the businessman to deal in good faith.

However on HF, you have these experienced marketers that write their ToS to just basically justify themselves IN ANY SCENARIO, no matter whether it's your fault or not, voila, they don't have to give you anything since their ToS state that they don't have to!

Then, they are ready to argue to the moon and back about how their ToS say this, basically a person that chose money over moral qualities. Kinda similar to a hooker.

No offence intended, just a honest outlook on the marketplace.
(Dec 14, 2017 10:56 AM)♔Nebo♔ Wrote:  You don't know how HF marketplace works.

ELI5 incoming! 

HoneySingh has a thread. 
In his exchange thread he can write whatever rules he wants for his currency exchanges and by accepting the deal with him you're automatically obliged to listen to his rules since he's reputable and you are not. 

Since you sent him the BTC within minutes and it was an delay on Coinbase's part, you'd expect the seller to do the right thing and give you your money on the agreed upon rate. 

I mean, it's not like you could predict what would happen.  
Any person that values their moral quality would do the right thing and give you your money. I mean, business can take a loss sometimes due to unforeseen circumstances. It's kinda the responsibility of the businessman to deal in good faith.

However on HF, you have these experienced marketers that write their ToS to just basically justify themselves IN ANY SCENARIO, no matter whether it's your fault or not, voila, they don't have to give you anything since their ToS state that they don't have to!

Then, they are ready to argue to the moon and back about how their ToS say this, basically a person that chose money over moral qualities. Kinda similar to a hooker.

No offence intended, just a honest outlook on the marketplace.

yes its very unfortunate. I specifically and expressley mentiond and had a rate agreed upon for this very issue. Its very frusturating
(Dec 14, 2017 10:59 AM)M4TB Wrote:  yes its very unfortunate. I specifically and expressley mentiond and had a rate agreed upon for this very issue. Its very frusturating

I know it is quite unfortunate.

It's just how business works on here, and sadly you can do nothing about it other than be wiser next time.

Sorry for your loss, however it's a $8 lesson. You can live without $8, consider it a $8 bargain, valuable experience about people nonetheless.
https://gyazo.com/a0f32ea990d72958ef537e3ff62166df
I have asked the user to give me the 98.78$ USD

Upon reception we will argue over the remaining 8.26$ he owes me.

so far he has sent me 0$


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