Sep 16, 2012 08:09 AM
(This post was last modified: Oct 22, 2012 01:22 PM by [[[[.)
---UPDATE--- Messaged Omni with a bunch of stuff to propose a change. He replied with "Sadly I only read 3 sentences" so apparently he doesn't think the monetizing section needs anything done.
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I've been coming to Hackforums for a long time, it has been a great source of information and has helped me learn a lot. A huge part of what I have learned is about making money online, and I am sure that is why you are here reading this. Sadly, there are huge problems with the monetizing sections of Hackforums. For those of you who have been around for a while, you probably already know what I am talking about. But for the new members, or people who aren't very intelligent, you may not realize what I mean. The monetizing sections (mainly Monetizing Techniques and Free Money Making Ebooks, but a lot of this applies to the Ebook Bazaar and Premium Ebook Bazaar) are filled with scams, lies, and misleading information.
Getting to the point where I am at now took a very long time. Over the course of a couple of years, reading through hundreds (maybe even a couple of thousand) threads, and wasting a lot of time AND money, I finally got to where I am today.
This is the problem. It shouldn't take that long to be able to learn a decent amount of good, working methods of earning. Users shouldn't have to waste days of their time to learn this stuff. This is where change comes in. These monetizing sections need to be fixed. They need to have the quality and content improved a lot.
I say, that only high quality threads should be allowed in these sections. No more "get rich quick" schemes, no more shitty threads where the OP gives a super general/brief description to draw people in and then he sends them a referral link, shit like that. These sections should have only high quality threads made, that include thorough descriptions of what the method is, how it works, and how people actually get paid. If the thread includes payment proofs and other important stuff like that, even better.
By having people creating only high quality, useful threads, it will make these monetizing forums a lot more useful to everyone, newbs and experienced earners alike. In these better quality threads, we can all discuss the methods thoroughly and everyone can learn a LOT. These sections NO LONGER need to be considered a joke, they can be taken seriously and used as an incredible source of knowledge for years to come.
If you are sick and tired of wasting your time and money on stuff that never works, if you are sick of playing guessing games on whether or not the thread you click on next will be useless, then speak up. The only way we can get these forums to change is by voicing our thoughts and opinions.
If all of us here at Hackforums want to finally have a place to reliably learn to earn; we need to not only change the quality of our posts, we need the Administrator's/Mod's help too. Here is a rough idea of what I think could/should happen (feel free to post your thoughts/opinions/ideas as well):
-Admins/mods need to start clearing out all of the completely obvious bullshit threads. There is an enormous (almost disgusting) amount of these extremely LQ threads. By removing these, it jump starts this whole idea by making it easier for users to find threads that aren't a complete waste of time.
-Admins/mods need to start giving more severe consequences for threads that are removed. For example, if a thread is a super obvious LQ/terrible thread, give them a serious warning that tells them next time they do that shit they will get temp banned. If a thread is LQ but at least shows a good attempt at being useful, then just a removal and warning should be good. Obviously the Admins/mods can figure this stuff out, these are just general ideas.
-Us users need to start making high quality threads. Threads that give detailed descriptions on the method, how it works, how they get paid, etc. Besides just high quality threads, we need high quality replies as well. We need responses that generate discussion, add more information, etc. Besides the obvious benefits of good replies, it also makes it so that people are more likely to make more high quality threads. If a person sees that a bunch of people like what they wrote, appreciate it, and contribute themselves, people will be more likely to continue making high quality threads (positive reinforcement).
-Don't be afraid to share what you know. If you know about a method / technique that really works and you have the information, take 10 minutes and write out as much as you know, make it look nice, and take pride in the fact that you will be helping out your fellow HF members. It really does not take that long to write a high quality, informative thread. This longass thread you are reading right now took me 15 minutes to get to the point you are reading right now, and I was writing while watching TV.
-A very good way to increase the quality of the monetizing sections would be to get people who actually earn a good amount of money posting what they know. If we can get a good group of earners who are willing to contribute to the cause and write what they know, it will be an amazing boost to the forums quality and will help a lot of people out.
So that is all I really have to say. I hope this gets taken atleast somewhat seriously, because I really want to see these forums become what they really could/should be. I've learned a lot from Hackforums, and I am incredibly grateful. However, it took a lot more time/work than it should have, and that was with me doing an enormous amount of research outside of HF. I know there are TONS of people who have had the same issues as I have, and who want to see change happen in these monetizing sections.
If everyone (Admins, Mods, Experienced Earners, and the rest of the Users) all work together and actually commit to this change, these forums can become incredible. A huge source of knowledge, for everyone to learn.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. Let me know what you think!
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-Added a poll to get a better idea of how people feel about the monetizing forums.
-Added a signature code for people who want to support the cause!
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Tired of wasting your time and money in the monetizing forums? Visit this thread to help bring change!
I've been coming to Hackforums for a long time, it has been a great source of information and has helped me learn a lot. A huge part of what I have learned is about making money online, and I am sure that is why you are here reading this. Sadly, there are huge problems with the monetizing sections of Hackforums. For those of you who have been around for a while, you probably already know what I am talking about. But for the new members, or people who aren't very intelligent, you may not realize what I mean. The monetizing sections (mainly Monetizing Techniques and Free Money Making Ebooks, but a lot of this applies to the Ebook Bazaar and Premium Ebook Bazaar) are filled with scams, lies, and misleading information.
Getting to the point where I am at now took a very long time. Over the course of a couple of years, reading through hundreds (maybe even a couple of thousand) threads, and wasting a lot of time AND money, I finally got to where I am today.
This is the problem. It shouldn't take that long to be able to learn a decent amount of good, working methods of earning. Users shouldn't have to waste days of their time to learn this stuff. This is where change comes in. These monetizing sections need to be fixed. They need to have the quality and content improved a lot.
I say, that only high quality threads should be allowed in these sections. No more "get rich quick" schemes, no more shitty threads where the OP gives a super general/brief description to draw people in and then he sends them a referral link, shit like that. These sections should have only high quality threads made, that include thorough descriptions of what the method is, how it works, and how people actually get paid. If the thread includes payment proofs and other important stuff like that, even better.
By having people creating only high quality, useful threads, it will make these monetizing forums a lot more useful to everyone, newbs and experienced earners alike. In these better quality threads, we can all discuss the methods thoroughly and everyone can learn a LOT. These sections NO LONGER need to be considered a joke, they can be taken seriously and used as an incredible source of knowledge for years to come.
If you are sick and tired of wasting your time and money on stuff that never works, if you are sick of playing guessing games on whether or not the thread you click on next will be useless, then speak up. The only way we can get these forums to change is by voicing our thoughts and opinions.
If all of us here at Hackforums want to finally have a place to reliably learn to earn; we need to not only change the quality of our posts, we need the Administrator's/Mod's help too. Here is a rough idea of what I think could/should happen (feel free to post your thoughts/opinions/ideas as well):
-Admins/mods need to start clearing out all of the completely obvious bullshit threads. There is an enormous (almost disgusting) amount of these extremely LQ threads. By removing these, it jump starts this whole idea by making it easier for users to find threads that aren't a complete waste of time.
-Admins/mods need to start giving more severe consequences for threads that are removed. For example, if a thread is a super obvious LQ/terrible thread, give them a serious warning that tells them next time they do that shit they will get temp banned. If a thread is LQ but at least shows a good attempt at being useful, then just a removal and warning should be good. Obviously the Admins/mods can figure this stuff out, these are just general ideas.
-Us users need to start making high quality threads. Threads that give detailed descriptions on the method, how it works, how they get paid, etc. Besides just high quality threads, we need high quality replies as well. We need responses that generate discussion, add more information, etc. Besides the obvious benefits of good replies, it also makes it so that people are more likely to make more high quality threads. If a person sees that a bunch of people like what they wrote, appreciate it, and contribute themselves, people will be more likely to continue making high quality threads (positive reinforcement).
-Don't be afraid to share what you know. If you know about a method / technique that really works and you have the information, take 10 minutes and write out as much as you know, make it look nice, and take pride in the fact that you will be helping out your fellow HF members. It really does not take that long to write a high quality, informative thread. This longass thread you are reading right now took me 15 minutes to get to the point you are reading right now, and I was writing while watching TV.
-A very good way to increase the quality of the monetizing sections would be to get people who actually earn a good amount of money posting what they know. If we can get a good group of earners who are willing to contribute to the cause and write what they know, it will be an amazing boost to the forums quality and will help a lot of people out.
So that is all I really have to say. I hope this gets taken atleast somewhat seriously, because I really want to see these forums become what they really could/should be. I've learned a lot from Hackforums, and I am incredibly grateful. However, it took a lot more time/work than it should have, and that was with me doing an enormous amount of research outside of HF. I know there are TONS of people who have had the same issues as I have, and who want to see change happen in these monetizing sections.
If everyone (Admins, Mods, Experienced Earners, and the rest of the Users) all work together and actually commit to this change, these forums can become incredible. A huge source of knowledge, for everyone to learn.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. Let me know what you think!
Write out your thoughts/opinions/ideas, no matter how small or big they are.
-EDITS-
-Added a poll to get a better idea of how people feel about the monetizing forums.
-Added a signature code for people who want to support the cause!
