[csclus]

Giving my own personal opinion, this price is actually reasonable. If you use the mass mailer system CORRECTLY or in a productive manner, you can actually make your money back from this. Yes, $800 may seem a lot, but on the same token, there are programs that are less advanced that may even cost more. If you guys buy it, the initial investment may be a lot, but if you put it to good use, there would be no problem making it back.

EDIT: This price also allows it to be unsaturated, and also allows it to not be put into the wrong hands.

Thank you, I could never say it better. You do understand my reasons and I'm sure you do have experience and success in making money online.

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I agree with many people when it comes to the price, the price is a little to high and should be lowered by a few hundreds.

I've been interesting in getting into mail/spam marketing and may possibly be interested.

yes, you're right, it's a little too high but it won't be lowered. The purpose of this mailer is to stay private, not owned by every kid in town.

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Hell, the guy knows what he's talking about and he holds up a valid argument when it comes to why is program is better. If a man can actually tell me why and how his product is better then the competitors with valid reasons instead of childish reasons, that earns my respect for him and his product.

Vouch for OP, good luck with your sales, this seems like a great product with a lot of potential. I admire your choice in target group.

Thanks for the vouch and I'm glad you understand my reasons now. although we didn't share the same opinions at the beginning, I can see you are a HQ user. Keep it this way!

[bravozero]

So just for everyone out there bashing the price.... I was a mailer far before CAN-S.PAM and after. I have seen mailers go for 10k and this is no joke. The truth of the matter is these are tools for professionals and not just someone looking to try mailing out. Another reason for such a high price is to limit the market and prevent the tool from being cracked. Lets be honest here, the price of things is what ultimately leads them to being exploited and shared on 300 sites. Mailing is extremely profitable especially if you have all the right tools. I know some of you wont care about my opinion but I present it as someone who has been successful in this area

[WienerNips]

Well I've read through the whole thread, and all I have to say is this. Don't expect too many buyers. This forum is filled with people that have never seen a $100 on their Paypal account. This seems like a great product, but this is probably the wrong forum to post this in. You're going to have much better results in a forum like warrior forums or digital point, where marketing is their thing. If you already posted this there, then good luck selling.

Also I suggest you treat the members around here with a little more respect and professionalism. Your point about the "kids" in the forum may be right, but if they do come to your thread, just act in a mature and proffesional manner and reply. You may not care about them, but potential buyers will, and they are effected by how well the seller handles situations like yours.

[Kornflex]

For all those who think this tool has a high price:

There is no tool on the internet that can bring you back those 800$ like a good inbox mailing tool. Never forget that guys.

You're just looking the price itself as a huge amount of money, not as a smart investment, and the investment is what we are talking about in this thread. Especially when you know there is no publicly known working mass mailer, which can hit the inbox for two days in a row. Some maybe for two hours. Mass mailing days with software as Send safe, Atomic mail sender, Dark mailer, Mail Mascot etc, these days are over. I tried those mailers myself - they are not working as they suppose to. Mass mailing nowadays is customized public mailers or the ones coded from scratch, based on smtp and not on VPS or dedicated servers. Both way they are very, very expensive, and looking from that angle, 800$ is simply nothing comparing with potential income.

What if I tell you there are guys who can make between 5.000 and 10.000$ a day, with sending only 10.000.000 emails a day? Yes, I wrote "only" because there are players who can send up to 100.000.000 a day. There are people who are willing to pay for a service like sending emails. They will pay a fair price, they will even give you their huge, scrubbed email lists, because they can't hit the inbox anymore.

And now, 800$ is very high price because you don't know how to use it? I mean, come on guys!!
What if it's 2.000$? Of course it's not expensive even then if you know how to use it and take the most of it. Otherwise, even 100$ is way too much for you.

OP, GLWS because those who buy this tool can make some serious cash. On some other forum you can sell it for few thousands, which is a real price.

Cheers!

[csclus]

So just for everyone out there bashing the price.... I was a mailer far before CAN-S.PAM and after. I have seen mailers go for 10k and this is no joke. The truth of the matter is these are tools for professionals and not just someone looking to try mailing out. Another reason for such a high price is to limit the market and prevent the tool from being cracked. Lets be honest here, the price of things is what ultimately leads them to being exploited and shared on 300 sites. Mailing is extremely profitable especially if you have all the right tools. I know some of you wont care about my opinion but I present it as someone who has been successful in this area

you're perfectly right but some won't share your opinion, they won't even understand what you say. If they earn $10/day or if they hack a server using a free "0day" exploit they consider themselves some internet gods.

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Well I've read through the whole thread, and all I have to say is this. Don't expect too many buyers. This forum is filled with people that have never seen a $100 on their Paypal account. This seems like a great product, but this is probably the wrong forum to post this in. You're going to have much better results in a forum like warrior forums or digital point, where marketing is their thing. If you already posted this there, then good luck selling.

Also I suggest you treat the members around here with a little more respect and professionalism. Your point about the "kids" in the forum may be right, but if they do come to your thread, just act in a mature and proffesional manner and reply. You may not care about them, but potential buyers will, and they are effected by how well the seller handles situations like yours.

you're probably right, maybe this isn't the right place to advertise such product, but I'm doing it mostly for those who already bought my smtp scanner and need a complete solution.
regarding respect and professionalism, I always treated good my customers but I cannot show respect to some kid, probably less than half of my age, who doesn't have a penny in his pocket and who's trashing my thread just because he couldn't find anything better to do with his pathetic life. This type of "customers" is not welcomed, they will never buy a product, all they can do is to post on forums begging for free cracks for programs they don't even know how to use them. Probably they will never understand that without investment you cannot make any money and that not everyone was born to make money online or offline, some are needed to work in restaurants, shops, gas stations. It's just a question of time...

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For all those who think this tool has a high price:

There is no tool on the internet that can bring you back those 800$ like a good inbox mailing tool. Never forget that guys.

You're just looking the price itself as a huge amount of money, not as a smart investment, and the investment is what we are talking about in this thread. Especially when you know there is no publicly known working mass mailer, which can hit the inbox for two days in a row. Some maybe for two hours. Mass mailing days with software as Send safe, Atomic mail sender, Dark mailer, Mail Mascot etc, these days are over. I tried those mailers myself - they are not working as they suppose to. Mass mailing nowadays is customized public mailers or the ones coded from scratch, based on smtp and not on VPS or dedicated servers. Both way they are very, very expensive, and looking from that angle, 800$ is simply nothing comparing with potential income.

What if I tell you there are guys who can make between 5.000 and 10.000$ a day, with sending only 10.000.000 emails a day? Yes, I wrote "only" because there are players who can send up to 100.000.000 a day. There are people who are willing to pay for a service like sending emails. They will pay a fair price, they will even give you their huge, scrubbed email lists, because they can't hit the inbox anymore.

And now, 800$ is very high price because you don't know how to use it? I mean, come on guys!!
What if it's 2.000$? Of course it's not expensive even then if you know how to use it and take the most of it. Otherwise, even 100$ is way too much for you.

OP, GLWS because those who buy this tool can make some serious cash. On some other forum you can sell it for few thousands, which is a real price.

Cheers!

thanks for your opinion and you're 100% right. Couldn't say it better!
maybe except some minor thing ... don't rely 100% on the mailer. yes, a mailer if it's highly customizable can help you a lot, but you still need to know the inboxing techniques, you have to make a lot of tests until you will finally succeed. And when I say "you" it's just generic, I include all those who work in this business.

[DaChamp]

I've bought SMTPs from csclus and he has ALWAYS delivered on time and every time.

However, it should be known that mailing isn't as easy as just putting stuff in and clicking start. This software alone WILL NOT inbox for you - not even close. There are so many things that spam filters check before sending a mail to the inbox, and just having clean SMTPs is a small portion of it. You need to have uniquely generated content, multiple message formats, hundreds of subject lines, no bad emails, ability to throttle, etc.

I got into mailing a few months back with some help from csclus. He was gracious and offered some ideas, but nothing more than that. Mailing is extremely tough. I do think there are features missing from this mailer (like ones I stated above) and if/when these are implemented, I would think of purchasing.

$800 is not much for all of us. If I could spend $800 for the mailer and help from csclus in getting started and actually getting this thing working, I would do it in a heartbeat, but unfortunately, he probably doesn't guarantee that or help out once the mailer is sold.

GLWS bro. Wish I could buy it because I do want to mail, but unfortunately need some help getting started and I don't think you're down for that?

HMU if you are. You got my Yahoo and know who I am.

[Truth]

Would you accept down payment option? I am sure I can get the money easy with this tool but I currently dont have the full $800 on hand. LMK thanks

[csclus]

I've bought SMTPs from csclus and he has ALWAYS delivered on time and every time.

However, it should be known that mailing isn't as easy as just putting stuff in and clicking start. This software alone WILL NOT inbox for you - not even close. There are so many things that spam filters check before sending a mail to the inbox, and just having clean SMTPs is a small portion of it. You need to have uniquely generated content, multiple message formats, hundreds of subject lines, no bad emails, ability to throttle, etc.

I got into mailing a few months back with some help from csclus. He was gracious and offered some ideas, but nothing more than that. Mailing is extremely tough. I do think there are features missing from this mailer (like ones I stated above) and if/when these are implemented, I would think of purchasing.

$800 is not much for all of us. If I could spend $800 for the mailer and help from csclus in getting started and actually getting this thing working, I would do it in a heartbeat, but unfortunately, he probably doesn't guarantee that or help out once the mailer is sold.

GLWS bro. Wish I could buy it because I do want to mail, but unfortunately need some help getting started and I don't think you're down for that?

HMU if you are. You got my Yahoo and know who I am.

thanks for the vouch!
regarding the features you mentioned above, my mailer already has them.
yes, I'm available for support, to teach customers how to use my mailer, but I cannot be there everytime they ask simple questions not related to the software but to mailing process, questions which can find answers on a short google search. It is supposed that people who buy this software know already the basics of mailing, what stands message-id for or other headers fields, what is the difference between direct send or using smtps, how to configure the threads based on computer configuration and so on. Yes, I offer full support but I don't have the time and nerves to become a teacher. But if you do your homework and I see you really want to learn and by mistake you reached a point where it's impossible to see the light, I will help you.
And of course, "you" is generic this time too.

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Would you accept down payment option? I am sure I can get the money easy with this tool but I currently dont have the full $800 on hand. LMK thanks

sorry, but I don't accept payments, weekly, monthly or any kind. Don't take it personally but I never break my own rules.

[DaChamp]

thanks for the vouch!
regarding the features you mentioned above, my mailer already has them.
yes, I'm available for support, to teach customers how to use my mailer, but I cannot be there everytime they ask simple questions not related to the software but to mailing process, questions which can find answers on a short google search. It is supposed that people who buy this software know already the basics of mailing, what stands message-id for or other headers fields, what is the difference between direct send or using smtps, how to configure the threads based on computer configuration and so on. Yes, I offer full support but I don't have the time and nerves to become a teacher. But if you do your homework and I see you really want to learn and by mistake you reached a point where it's impossible to see the light, I will help you.
And of course, "you" is generic this time too.

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sorry, but I don't accept payments, weekly, monthly or any kind. Don't take it personally but I never break my own rules.

1) Will there be any updates to the mailer in the future? If so, are all updates included in this?

2) Does this come with ANY SMTPs to get started?

3) Before, you used to say you don't mail anymore. What changed? Are you still mailing? How confident are you that it will inbox to all service providers?

4) How do you go about cleaning the lists? Does this software have something where it can track bounces/deliveries/opens?

5) I saw that you can import multiple subject lines to be used, but can you send out mail so that it rotates through the subject lines. What about actual content rotation? Is that included to? I know you'll need to switch out content and have a variety of content if you want to inbox, so the ability to rotate this is very important.

6) Rotating SMTP servers I assume is already part of it, but I didn't see it. Can you import a list of 500 SMTPs and then rotate amongst them when sending out mail?

7) Proxy's or VPNs are extremely important as well. I saw a place where you can import a proxy, but not sure. Since you are using SMTPs which are deemed "open", these aren't necessarily legal for mailing purposes since you're acquiring them via a scan, right? How do you stay "anonymous" when using them? How do you anonymize your links on the affiliate side as well?

Very interesting customer, but I'm going to ask all the right questions before I drop $800 on something.

[csclus]

1) Will there be any updates to the mailer in the future? If so, are all updates included in this?

2) Does this come with ANY SMTPs to get started?

3) Before, you used to say you don't mail anymore. What changed? Are you still mailing? How confident are you that it will inbox to all service providers?

4) How do you go about cleaning the lists? Does this software have something where it can track bounces/deliveries/opens?

5) I saw that you can import multiple subject lines to be used, but can you send out mail so that it rotates through the subject lines. What about actual content rotation? Is that included to? I know you'll need to switch out content and have a variety of content if you want to inbox, so the ability to rotate this is very important.

6) Rotating SMTP servers I assume is already part of it, but I didn't see it. Can you import a list of 500 SMTPs and then rotate amongst them when sending out mail?

7) Proxy's or VPNs are extremely important as well. I saw a place where you can import a proxy, but not sure. Since you are using SMTPs which are deemed "open", these aren't necessarily legal for mailing purposes since you're acquiring them via a scan, right? How do you stay "anonymous" when using them? How do you anonymize your links on the affiliate side as well?

Very interesting customer, but I'm going to ask all the right questions before I drop $800 on something.

1) yes, all future updates will be free. Of course I don't exclude the possibility of missing something, so all future addons will be based on customers experience.
2) no, smtps are not included. If you want smtps you can either order (from me or someone else) or if you don't wanna depend on someone else, you can order the smtp scanner I have for sale and updated to version 2.2.
3) money, that changed ...
4) this tool is mostly for those who don't need opt-in lists with delivery reports, that's why I added so many spoofing features. But if needed I can add that too within few days.
5) its ability to rotate/randomize each field is very high. In the presentation video I showed only few examples but it is highly customizable for unique content.
6) yes, you can import any number of smtps, it automatically detects the auth method and communication mechanism (regular, ssl, tls). I didn't show the smtps tab option in the video cause I already added the smtp servers and the login fields were visible. Didn't have time to edit the video to blur the info.
7) it has socks4/socks5/http/https support. you can import any list of proxies and as a bonus you can check if they support smtp connections.
I wanted to add a proxy grabber and checker too but changed my mind. This is a mailer and if you want programs which get proxies & check them, you can find a lot on google, most of them free.
I added a URL shortener but it's not a finale version. Need suggestions too. And besides, there are other programs which do that and are updated based on any API change. So I don't think that is very important and necessary for a mailer.

[DaChamp]

More questions:

1) Since you put so many "spoofing" options into this, when they click on a link and land on a CPA offer, there really isn't much anonymity, right? That can easily be tracked back to you and you could get into a TON of trouble. Each CANSPAM violation is a $10K fine, so how does this software eliminate that?

2) Does the rotation of subject/content occur automatically like in Send Safe? Do you offer alternate ways of manipulating the content to ensure its deliverability?

3) The ability to use an SMTP or something else to "clean" an e-mail list is extremely important. It keeps the SMTPs active for longer and helps keep them active.

4) Ability to add SMTPs via text file?

5) What format does the data need to be in? I noticed you can import the headers and then use them in the subject line, etc.

[Μаtt]

wow that looks so sick i would buy it if it were cheap

[DoomsRay]

csclus you gots to be one of the most arrogant dude i've ever met online dude your too cocky you act like your better than others, just because you know how to code don't mean you have to treat others like shit you need to change your attitude remember your not the only one that knows how to code dude in this world you rip what you saw so remember treat others like the the way you'll like to be treated as for your tool it's pointless because inboxing is all about IP reputation without a good reputation all your mails will hit spambox

[csclus]

More questions:

1) Since you put so many "spoofing" options into this, when they click on a link and land on a CPA offer, there really isn't much anonymity, right? That can easily be tracked back to you and you could get into a TON of trouble. Each CANSPAM violation is a $10K fine, so how does this software eliminate that?

2) Does the rotation of subject/content occur automatically like in Send Safe? Do you offer alternate ways of manipulating the content to ensure its deliverability?

3) The ability to use an SMTP or something else to "clean" an e-mail list is extremely important. It keeps the SMTPs active for longer and helps keep them active.

4) Ability to add SMTPs via text file?

5) What format does the data need to be in? I noticed you can import the headers and then use them in the subject line, etc.

1) what does link spoofing have to do with a mailer or with canspam? link spoofing can be made with php/js using redirects and has nothing to do with the method you advertise the links. I suggest you to read more about it before asking such question.
2) I thought that I already gave you the answer to that, regarding rotation/randomization. It is the most customizable mailer, you can change everything.
3) this is what an email validator does and you can find a lot of them free or cracked. You keep asking me about features that no mailer has and will never have. This is not how a mailer works!
4) I already answered to this question in my previous reply.
5) "Import the headers and use them in the subject line"? I guess you're either confused or you didn't watch the presentation, but either way it's a non-sense.
Before asking any other question please be sure you watch the video and also be sure it makes any sense. Thanks!

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csclus you gots to be one of the most arrogant dude i've ever met online dude your too cocky you act like your better than others, just because you know how to code don't mean you have to treat others like shit you need to change your attitude remember your not the only one that knows how to code dude in this world you rip what you saw so remember treat others like the the way you'll like to be treated as for your tool it's pointless because inboxing is all about IP reputation without a good reputation all your mails will hit spambox

although you have the IQ of a monkey, I will show professionalism as someone asked me earlier and reply to your post...
Let's make a bet on $1k: if I send a message to inbox using a smtp "with a bad reputation" (I'm sure you don't even know what is that)... I win. Otherwise you do. Deal ?
P.S. I can wait even two years until you collect $1k.

[cloudz4me]

Most advanced Mass Mailer? i dont think so..

you don't even mention in here about whitelisting your ip's

your mailer is just an ordinary mailer loaded with lots of scan smtp's(mostly already blacklisted)

If you want a high inbox rate consider your email list clean,less bounces,high open rate and click rate,less abuse report.

for $800 i can hire a guy to configure a linux based mailer with 100 rotation ip's already whitelisted and warmed up.