[stefsot]

user profile: _ÎȵЅїḎḯṐṳṨ_
uid: 1179086

I agreed with Insidious to sell my "UnknownCrypter" project for me which was later renamed to "Sin-Crypter"

The deal was 50-50. He didnt sent me the 50% after every sale as we agreed. I waited for him to pay, since the users where coming and I got no money, and after, almost, a month I asked him to start paying me. He claimed he didnt have the money (what the hell have you been doing with my money) because of a 200$ dispute. So I waited even more, waiting for him to find MY money. Well yesterday I saw he had created a thread (can be found here) that he could invest 120$, but still he didnt have the money to pay me (seriously?). I talked to him in skype and he started accusing me of making his paypal balance -130$ (first he said 200$, then changed to 120$ and later to 130$) from disputes caused by users from my crypter (he banned my net seal account and revoked any access from his net seal panel). It turns out, that my salesman that I agreed to pay 50% for every sale, not only took the 100% but didnt handle the sales at all; turned out that you could buy a License, chargeback and still keep the license (no bans for chargebacks).

In conclusion, I estimate over 250$ were made from the crypter (Insidious never let me view the excact sales amount, how kind of him) which he all kept.

On a side note; he is a rep whore (I got proof for that) and all the vouches he gets in every sales thread are from his friends and not from actual customers or reviewers (yeah, I got proof even for that).

It was my mistake that I trusted someone from HF. I used his net seal panel and his paypal (worse choice ever). Thank god I didnt give him the source code when he asked for it.

Also a note: Insidious claims that I scammed over 20 people by providing a "non working crypter" as he says (he started claiming this when I asked for my money). All I know is that I created a new app. when Insidious banned me from his net-seal, just to provide the lifetime service that a user bought even though I got 0$ from him (I can ask him to confirm that)

Proof

*the skype conversation is huge so I included only the "key" parts, if you want more proofs just ask*

All images: http://www.mediafire.com/folder/yka67s7v...8t3/shared

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http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/815d/s9...umwofg.jpg
EDIT: It's Been more than a Day, still no proofs for his claims. No paypal screenshots nothing. He only "claims".
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/daa8/oc...s4h8fg.jpg

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EDIT:

Thats for everyone who was defending insidious.
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0073/e7...gk77fg.jpg

I think its for the best. One scammer less.

[Bat™]

I hope you get all your money back. Legit scam report.

[Grieve™]

As a legit customer of this crypter I can tell you that it does work and was fud for a while, Insidious is just bullshitting when he is saying that it doesn't work and isn't fud. Legit report, gl getting your cash stefsot.

[stefsot]

As a legit customer of this crypter I can tell you that it does work and was fud for a while, Insidious is just bullshitting when he is saying that it doesn't work and isn't fud. Legit report, gl getting your cash stefsot.

Thank you for your feedback 🤝
I do hope Insidious will pay and wont rage like he did when I informed him that I will stop business with him.

[Effexion]

Sorry to hear about this. I have known Insid for quite a while, and he is a decent guy. Scamming is unacceptable though. I hope you get this sorted.

[_ÎȵЅїḎḯṐṳṨ_]

First off, you know I couldn't pay you because of the chargebacks on sin-crypter.

This made me -130$ on paypal, because the crypter wasn't working for people, it either wasn't fud, or just corrupted their servers.

Second off, I haven't scammed you, I've said to you, I will pay you, and you'll carry on developing sin-crypter, and you've refused, that isn't my problem.

I also said, I'm gonna have to refund the customers, or give them my new crypter, which I shouldn't have to do, as the crypter should be working.

People don't buy a non working crypter, it's common logic to buy something that's working mate.

/Scamreportinvalid.

[stefsot]

First off, you know I couldn't pay you because of the chargebacks on sin-crypter.

This made me -130$ on paypal, because the crypter wasn't working for people, it either wasn't fud, or just corrupted their servers.

Second off, I haven't scammed you, I've said to you, I will pay you, and you'll carry on developing sin-crypter, and you've refused, that isn't my problem.

I also said, I'm gonna have to refund the customers, or give them my new crypter, which I shouldn't have to do, as the crypter should be working.

People don't buy a non working crypter, it's common logic to buy something that's working mate.

/Scamreportinvalid.

I got proofs for eveyrthing you are implying.

You still reply with no proofs.

And no I wont keep making the crypter with you, told you already its over! You will pay me, you have the money, stop the lies

[J!nx]

I have to agree with InsIdious because he got charged back because your program was not working.
You can't ask him to pay for something that didn't work properly.

Anyway I hope you guys can resolve it.

[Oboy]

Looks like a legit scam report, sucks that you got scammed dude.

[stefsot]

I have to agree with InsIdious because he got charged back because your program was not working.
You can't ask him to pay for something that didn't work properly.

Anyway I hope you guys can resolve it.

and of course you know this because insidious told you so... right?

[_ÎȵЅїḎḯṐṳṨ_]

Looks like a legit scam report, sucks that you got scammed dude.

Legit? HAHAAHAH scammed? HAAHAHAH

wow, you guys are such idiots.

[OwnerORAdminPlease]

This is a false scam report, Insidious is not a scammer, stefanos is, I bought this crypter, and it hasn't been fud for weeks, even before this issue, and it had been corrupting my servers, Why should insidious pay stefanos when he's been providing a non working crypter? Insidious has offered me his new and even better crypter for compensation, which Is more than enough to be honest, and he shouldn't even have to do this.

[_ÎȵЅїḎḯṐṳṨ_]

and of course you know this because insidious told you so... right?

No, because he's not a fucking idiot he's seen people complain about the crypter not working.

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This is a false scam report, Insidious is not a scammer, stefanos is, I bought this crypter, and it hasn't been fud for weeks, even before this issue, and it had been corrupting my servers, Why should insidious pay stefanos when he's been providing a non working crypter? Insidious has offered me his new and even better crypter for compensation, which Is more than enough to be honest, and he shouldn't even have to do this.

Finally, someone with actual logic man.

[stefsot]

This is a false scam report, Insidious is not a scammer, stefanos is, I bought this crypter, and it hasn't been fud for weeks, even before this issue, and it had been corrupting my servers, Why should insidious pay stefanos when he's been providing a non working crypter? Insidious has offered me his new and even better crypter for compensation, which Is more than enough to be honest, and he shouldn't even have to do this.

Once insidious blocked me out of netseal I disabled the crypter.
I was later contacted by a customer that has bought a lifetime license and I was forced to make an update and give him an updated version because he did paid for the product eventhough I got no 0$.

Told you before. You said you will pay me only if I keep making the crypter with you for you. no no no, been through this already and Im sure I dont like it.

You will pay me and eveyr customer that bought this will receive a license and thats my business, you Insidious only need to pay me nad stop making up stories.

For everyone that has trouble reading. He first said that had no money due to a charge back (orrevelant with the crypter) and later started claiming that the crypter was problematic.

Also why do I have to ague with a user that joined, most likely, 10 seconds ago?

[Hewlett Packard]

If all chargeback are on crypter payment then this is a false report. If insidious have sold something before and he got chargeback on that then this is a legit scam report. Hope so you will get this to resolve