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(Jul 18, 2015 09:44 AM)Тоху Wrote:  One thing I am confused about is your VPN > Tor vs Tor > VPN.

As I understand, and as the OPSEC for Hackers link at the bottom of your post states around the middle of the slideshow (a bit before), Tor > VPN is okay, VPN > Tor = GO TO JAIL.

Tor > VPN
With this method you send data through tor and then to your VPN and out.
This method protects you from your VPN provider. They don't know who you are because you connect after going through Tor.

VPN > Tor
This method sends first data to your VPN then towards tor and then out.
This method means that your VPN provider can see what you are doing, what sites are requested and log your activity before you connect to tor.

That is a basic explanation of how it it.
(Jul 18, 2015 09:44 AM)Тоху Wrote:  One thing I am confused about is your VPN > Tor vs Tor > VPN.

As I understand, and as the OPSEC for Hackers link at the bottom of your post states around the middle of the slideshow (a bit before), Tor > VPN is okay, VPN > Tor = GO TO JAIL.

VPN > Tor means you better damn well trust your VPN provider, which no one can really so the other method is always suggested.
There are also methods like Tortilla, Tor > VPN > Tor, etc etc. I remember the whonix documentation saying something like running two instances of tor together is a no-no. I'll try to find it.

Edit: here it is.

https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/...-dangerous
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There's a really good DEFCON OPSEC talk you might walk to link to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q4Ir2J8P8

Illuminaughty sent me it and it was very informative so I thought I'd post it as it fits the general theme.
(Jul 18, 2015 10:17 AM)PhantomElite Wrote:  There's a really good DEFCON OPSEC talk you might walk to link to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q4Ir2J8P8

Illuminaughty sent me it and it was very informative so I thought I'd post it as it fits the general theme.

I saw this one too, it's pretty old but it's concepts still apply.
(Jul 18, 2015 10:17 AM)PhantomElite Wrote:  There's a really good DEFCON OPSEC talk you might walk to link to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q4Ir2J8P8

Illuminaughty sent me it and it was very informative so I thought I'd post it as it fits the general theme.

I'll watch this in a bit, not sure if I've seen this one.
If I think it will help others and applys to my thread, I'll add it in for sure.
Given the size of the thread, I've only found like 8 or 9 mistakes which is pretty impressive. As an oxford comma user, I'd add more commas to sentences, paragraphs, and statements. :) see wut i did ther?

Anyways, onto the content. Just a quick comment on each of the topics:

1. Secure Operating Systems
As far as security goes, Tails and Whonix are certainly among the top in terms of anonymity, but I'd be careful calling them "secure." I'm aware that this is not meant to be an operating system security thread, but people can be identified by insane things like screen resolution or cursor movements. Everyone using Tor needs to ensure that they disable all client-side code execution (javascript, flash, etc...) as that is the #1 way of identifying Tor users. It seems to me that tunneling an entire TCP/IP stack via a single SOCKS proxy would lead to issues. Hats off to the Tails community for developing such a great product.

2. Virtual Private Networks
As a very pleased Proxy.sh user, I can personally attest to their security, anonymity, and simplicity. To point out the obvious, that picture with the 1's and 0's followed by a picture with ampersands and pound signs is obviously ridiculous. We know what they're trying to get across, but data shows up as 1's and 0's anyways. The only difference would be that the original picture would resolve to human-readable ASCII (assuming that was the original goal) and the other would be nonsense to a human. At any rate, I'm just happy you cleared up the misconceptions about DNS leaking. It's not some occultish, magical hack. It's just using local DNS servers to resolve things like PurchaseCreditCardsOnlineForCheap.com coming from your IP. The best thing to do is to use remote DNS lookups (which Proxy.sh supports) as opposed to using, say, Google's DNS servers. Your ISP will still get metadata, and I wouldn't be surprised if they captured all DNS requests. So thank you for giving a great explanation of DNS leaking.

3. TOR Related
It looks to me like you've covered all the major topics (and more!). Quite simply, Tor is a multi-tiered encrypted communication network via numerous community-run overlays and a potentially malicious exit node 🤝 Exit nodes really are a pain in the ass. NSA-run exit nodes that inject client-side scripts into unencrypted communication is a very real and unfortunately common activity. I know I mentioned client-side scripts in the Tails/Whonix part of my post, but it is very important and I think you clearly demonstrated the necessity for it. To give an example, the largest Tor-based child porn hosting service, Freedom Hosting, was taken down by a couple of lines of JavaScript.

4. Encryption
You're a bigger man than I if you want to tackle such an incredibly diverse, robust, and rigorous topic as encryption. Though I'm far from even pretending to understand the deeper mechanics of encryption, the mathematical Theory behind it is incredible. I would want to point out that even today's encryption is still subject to attack. Hopefully no one here actually needs to be told that with the POODLE's and the LOGJAM's and the HeartBleed's of the past few months. Obviously you want to stay encrypted, but since the majority of the population does not care enough to run encrypted email services, making the job of an attacker significantly easier, it gets annoying having to send passwords and the likes using https://oneshar.es and https://privnote.com and such. I would add in the software that KMS was talking about in the TeamSpeak that encrypts RAM. I am not familiar with cold-boot attacks (essentially blasting ice cold air into the RAM and preserving the state so that you can move it into anther computer and find the disk encryption keys) and their popularity in forensic environments, but it may be relevant to anonymity. I will say that Tails has protection against this attack. Kudos.

5. File/Download Security
I don't have much to say here. Several of the Next-Gen firewalls that I work with have the capability to perform malware analysis on files being downloaded; it's interesting to say the least. Metadata is always a problem, but there are many ways to change it (as you mentioned). Antiviruses, Rootkit protections, and host-based IDS's are imperative in a secure environment. If you have a ring-0 or kernel-land Rootkit, everything else is subject to the attacker's whim.

6. Social Related
i'm not much of a social media person, but don't post or message anything relevant to your passwords or security questions. It seems like it should be common sense, yet it remains elusive to the morons that, unfortunately, are allowed use the internet.

7. General Computer Security
Like encryption, this is too big a concept to discuss in such a limited space. I'd recommend putting in things like GRSec for MAC (mandatory access control) and RBAC (Role-based access control) as well as buffer overflow protection, and a myriad of other things. I also like OSSEC as an HIDS. It's cross-platform, centralized for simplicity and security, and is incredibly easy to deploy.

It's not much, but it's a quick Goodies' Goodies segment. Big thanks to Zer0 for creating such a unique and much-needed thread. I hope it gets the recognition it deserves.
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(Jul 18, 2015 10:24 AM)ᴎᴀᴎᴏ Wrote:  I'll watch this in a bit, not sure if I've seen this one.
If I think it will help others and applys to my thread, I'll add it in for sure.

It's the "7 Deadly Fuckups" one. The guy with spiky hair blonde mohawk thing, just in case that triggers something for you to remember it.
(Jul 18, 2015 10:52 AM)Goodies Wrote:  -snip-

I figured you'd write a book as a post. Anyways, about the Secure OS section, it would of sounded weird naming it "More Secure than a Normal OS". I hope people understand nothing is 100% secure so it was kind of a given.

About the encryption section, I was going to add in what KMS was referring too but completely forgot the application name and I can't ask him anymore due to obvious reasons.

General security section. I'd like to add a Mac related sub-section and am starting to put together more things in general for this section.
(Jul 18, 2015 10:52 AM)Goodies Wrote:  but people can be identified by insane things like screen resolution or cursor movements.

With the issue of screen resolution, that's why you keep the TOR browser at its default size as they tell you.
(Jul 18, 2015 11:01 AM)PhantomElite Wrote:  With the issue of screen resolution, that's why you keep the TOR browser at its default size as they tell you.

I remember reading that additional addons can also do the same for a browser signature (not sure if I'm using the proper term), though I know there is yet another addon that can scramble that.

Also, about Tor > VPN again, this would prevent you from visiting onion websites. I assume Tor> VPN > Tor is necessary to access onion sites if you wanted to use a VPN? I haven't tried most of these but have only read about a lot of them. Does anyone have opinions about VPN > Tor > VPN > Tor as well? I can only find people mentioning it.

Also, as an interesting note, I read that setting tor to use a proxy that you've set to localhost running i2p can also work :)
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(Jul 18, 2015 11:37 AM)Тоху Wrote:  I remember reading that additional addons can also do the same for a browser signature (not sure if I'm using the proper term), though I know there is yet another addon that can scramble that.

Also, about Tor > VPN again, this would prevent you from visiting onion websites. I assume Tor> VPN > Tor is necessary to access onion sites if you wanted to use a VPN? I haven't tried most of these but have only read about a lot of them. Does anyone have opinions about VPN > Tor > VPN > Tor as well? I can only find people mentioning it.

Also, as an interesting note, I read that setting tor to use a proxy that you've set to localhost running i2p can also work :)

Your last note answered your own question, you can setup or use a tor proxy to visit those .onion's, such as http://onion.to provides these proxies but are not reccomended since you don't use multiple Tor relay's if I'm not wrong.
Would configuring Tor to use proxy X not be X > Tor > VPN > onion.to? If so you would still only be able to access onion sites via onion.to, unless I misunderstood your post.
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(Jul 18, 2015 11:48 AM)Asterea Wrote:  No, because the proxy you setup should be before the .onion
You > Tor > VPN > proxy > .onion

If you ment to use onion.to's proxy,
You > proxy > Tor > VPN > .onion.to > .onion
but the proxy can be put everywhere (inbetween these).

I thought you were mentioning the part where I said to edit Tor's proxy settings to run it through something.

I have not tested it, but would the first setup in your post not connect to .onion websites? Because to access onion sites, while you are still connected to tor, you are using a VPN before the onion site, and you will still not be able to connect. If I remember what I've read elsewhere correctly.

Here are some resources:

https://www.deepdotweb.com/jolly-rogers-...ows-users/

Quote:Sometimes doing TOR -> VPN is necessary because of the spam filter reasons I mentioned above and other times having TOR as your last node to the internet is necessary like when accessing the onion network.

That is found near the bottom of the page (the source of my confusion)

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor...#you-X-Tor

They do not seem to like Tor > VPN much, despite what the previous page in this topic suggests :p
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Well done, OP.
Thank you for sharing all this and putting your time into making this, much appreciated.


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