Feb 7, 2016 03:05 PM
(This post was last modified: Feb 7, 2016 03:07 PM by +Haze.)
No I wouldn't pay for this, I think the GUI is terrible and just nothing about this product stands out. Plus not to be a jerk, but I agree with StackOverflowin. I used to think you was some sort of RAT/malware expert, but after this, I don't know what to think.
(Feb 7, 2016 03:05 PM)Orgy Wrote: OP, looks like you're just throwing around tech-sounding buzz words with no real knowledge of what they are. Seems like this is just some copy and pasted nonsense.
this. Literally nothing makes sense. 😏😏
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(Feb 7, 2016 03:05 PM)+Haze Wrote: No I wouldn't pay for this, I think the GUI is terrible and just nothing about this product stands out. Plus not to be a jerk, but I agree with StackOverflowin. I used to think you was some sort of RAT/malware expert, but after this, I don't know what to think.
this. Literally nothing makes sense. 😏😏
As part of our shared group membership you are already open to the Beta, PM me for a copy and a key, I am sure after testing your opinion will change.
Hello, I'm Sorzus, the developer of Orcus. Me and Armada, we are partners and work together: He does the marketing and I'm the programmer.
Don't be so rude with him, I'm the programmer of this tool and I know everything about it and I will answer all your questions about this program.
One thing to say: This tool are 3 applications: The controller, the server and the client. The client is just for Windows (XP-10). There are two versions of the server: One with a GUI for Windows and one with a CLI which is mono compatible (so it runs fine on linux system). The controller is a Windows application and we have an Android app.
StackOverlowin Wrote:Quote:
or unix based shells
No, no it's not. Unless you've compiled this for Mono, you have no idea what you're talking about
Look above, you don't even have to compile it for mono, it just runs with mono ;)
Tx707 Wrote:I'm sorry but it looks like a teenager made it. It looks unprofessional.
You definitely need to talk to a graphics designer and look for someone that knows how to make GDI's.
Actually you are correct, I'm still teenager. Yes, I also don't like the dark theme very much, the light theme looks better, but I think that some people might prefer it.
StackOverlowin Wrote:What you just said makes no sense at all.
Please compile for x64 as who the fuck uses x86 shit?
Actually, Armada is correct. The platform target of this application isn't "Any CPU" but x86. The reason is that it loads 32 bit native dll, but it actually makes not a different because "Prefer 32-bit" is checked by default anyway.
Binary Ghoul Wrote:Since its multi os it uses java right?
Look above, not the client but the server and controller can be used on different operating systems.
Feel free to ask me any questions about the programming stuff which came up to your mind ;)
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Can we please skip the technical mumbo jumbo and get to the point where you tell us why we should buy this RAT instead of all the others there
And fix the interface it looks awful.
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(Feb 7, 2016 04:16 PM)Cammy Wrote: Can we please skip the technical mumbo jumbo and get to the point where you tell us why we should buy this RAT instead of all the others there
And fix the interface it looks awful.
Ok.
Typical RAT networking:
Orcus Networking:
Orcus is server separate, ergo, it is distributional. You can establish unlimited amount of command and control servers.
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Feb 7, 2016 04:24 PM
(This post was last modified: Feb 7, 2016 04:24 PM by Cammy.)
(Feb 7, 2016 04:20 PM)Armada Wrote:
Ok.
Typical RAT networking:
![[Image: 6TJEpHD.png]](https://i.imgur.com/6TJEpHD.png)
Orcus Networking:
![[Image: 2Qv0dI4.png]](https://i.imgur.com/2Qv0dI4.png)
Orcus is server separate, ergo, it is distributional. You can establish unlimited amount of command and control servers.
That's it?
(Feb 7, 2016 04:24 PM)Cammy Wrote: That's it?
I mean, it's definitely a better start but is it compatible with TOR? Can you do client->server->server->server->control?
How well does it handle several thousands of connections? Hopefully very well since you have servers between client and control.
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(Feb 7, 2016 04:24 PM)Cammy Wrote: That's it? - Firstly No. Thats one of Orcus many differences than market RATs to date.
(Feb 7, 2016 04:25 PM)Orgy Wrote: I mean, it's definitely a better start but is it compatible with TOR? Can you do client->server->server->server->control?
How well does it handle several thousands of connections? Hopefully very well since you have servers between client and control.
This is defined by the placement of your C&C services, we recommend a cap of 10,000 maximum per Orcus Server, this means every 10k clients, we recommend you establish another server.
Controllers can establish an unlimited number of servers.
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(Feb 7, 2016 04:31 PM)Armada Wrote: - Firstly No. Thats one of Orcus many differences than market RATs to date.
Then step to it and list some more damn I'm all ears
(Feb 7, 2016 04:31 PM)Armada Wrote: - Firstly No. Thats one of Orcus many differences than market RATs to date.
This is defined by the placement of your C&C services, we recommend a cap of 10,000 maximum per Orcus Server, this means every 10k clients, we recommend you establish another server.
Controllers can establish an unlimited number of servers.
What I mean is can you route a server through another server between the client and controller
get your technical guy back in here. no offense.
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Feb 7, 2016 04:36 PM
(This post was last modified: Feb 7, 2016 04:37 PM by #Skyline.)
I'm gonna be the serious guy here and say this, I cannot see this working out for you Armada.
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(Feb 7, 2016 04:34 PM)Orgy Wrote: What I mean is can you route a server through another server between the client and controller
get your technical guy back in here. no offense. You cant currently establish THAT networking yet.
Controller - Server - Server - Binaries
It is something to consider for sure.
(Feb 7, 2016 04:36 PM)#Skyline Wrote: I'm gonna be the serious guy here and say this, I cannot see this working out for you Armada.
I can only wish you were OG enough to see why this will be so successful.
(Feb 7, 2016 04:40 PM)Armada Wrote: You cant currently establish THAT networking yet.
Controller - Server - Server - Binaries
It is something to consider for sure.
Don't get me wrong here though: I won't be buying this. Simply because I don't bother with this kinda stuff anymore but if you're going to sell it, you should totally implement something like that along with onion routing. it may be a little overkill but it'd be a cool security implementation and great for marketing
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(Feb 7, 2016 04:40 PM)Armada Wrote: I can only wish you were OG enough to see why this will be so successful.
Phoenix RAT source ok.
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(Feb 7, 2016 04:42 PM)Orgy Wrote: Don't get me wrong here though: I won't be buying this. Simply because I don't bother with this kinda stuff anymore but if you're going to sell it, you should totally implement something like that along with onion routing. it may be a little overkill but it'd be a cool security implementation and great for marketing
This god honest is the feed back I have been looking for.
Thank you for the constructive criticism.🤝
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