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(Oct 9, 2016 09:21 AM)Black Shadow Wrote: No I said I will refund you if you can prove that this is a public method?
I also said I have used your funds to pay a bill so I needed to sell more if you could provide proof
You did not say that and I have posted proofs of this in my main post. You need to talk then do so with proofs or just shut up, accept your mistake, refund my money and I will close this dispute.
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Oct 9, 2016 09:26 AM
(This post was last modified: Oct 9, 2016 09:27 AM by Web_Development.)
That's what you get when you try to get rich by an...Ebook...:D
OT: Sorry for your loss and hope it gets resolved ^^
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(Oct 9, 2016 09:26 AM)Royal ! Wrote: You did not say that and I have posted proofs of this in my main post. You need to talk then do so with proofs or just shut up, accept your mistake, refund my money and I will close this dispute.
I will refund you when you show me that this is public, the other 2 members that purchased are happy enough.
This cant be public it may be similar but nothing like what you got.
(Oct 9, 2016 09:34 AM)Black Shadow Wrote: I will refund you when you show me that this is public, the other 2 members that purchased are happy enough.
This cant be public it may be similar but nothing like what you got.
You said you were going to refund him regardless if it's public or not? You just didn't have "funds"
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black shadow needs an intervention tbh
It's sad to see an addiction get so strong a user has to resort to scamming.
Oct 9, 2016 09:46 AM
(This post was last modified: Oct 9, 2016 09:53 AM by NaDe.)
So you want him to post your "Flawless" method to prove it is in fact public?
In turn, no one will ever purchase the method from you because it will definitely be public then.
So you will be unable to make sales and continue to profit from it, all because you don't want to refund him?
Sounds legit.
Public or not the user should receive a refund for buying a method that is against the rules and shouldn't have been sold in the first place.
Black Shadow is truly a mystery. I don't think I'll ever understand him.
Good luck solving this.
Oct 9, 2016 10:09 AM
(This post was last modified: Oct 9, 2016 10:11 AM by White Hat.)
$1,000 for bs black hat method, only on hf. Give me a $1,000 and ill show you you what true black hat fraud like youll never see before is.
On that note, op i am sorry you got scammed. Maybe the post i refrained from making because i thought wasnt worth may or may not have changed your mind. But dont ever buy any blackhat method here. Its impossible not to fall under the category of hf disalllowed activity.
There are two buyers when they buy an ebook like this. 1) they report it as disallowed no matter the method, even if its one best bh methods. 2) they love it and they dont report it at all.
Truth is both those statements intermingle but the other truth is the first type really reports it because the method sucks, the 2nd doesnt because he loves it and got what he paid for.
Look at that vurezo guy. Im sure he loves whatever method he got. Im more than positive anything that will supposedly make you $10k a week or w/e is disallowed. Why? Because omni has done an amazing job a fucking squeezing out 95% of any resources/ideas/talks that links to fraud.
Now if you're talking about some bs small scam where eh you take 6 to 8 hours to make $150 to $300 by buying things and then not quite exactly se'ing but i wont mention how you get money back, then that is something where new little black hat idea can be discovered.
In fraud you speaj realistically. So when you have a method, if you say wow now if i push this x100 ill make $30,000 month! Bruh thats the way someone with greed, high ambitions but no experience thinks. Which is why they take advantage and make ebooks no matter what that mentions ridiculous ROI. Doesnt even have to be bh look at our ebooks here.
Money like that takes resources, secured method youd dicovered, and another or more individuals. I was going to offer a 4 to 6 weeks mentorship service in bh stuff for half this price. Its an extensive but not rocket science training. But i dont want to break the rules. I could lie and mention only blackhat but ik people, they need to be slightly informed. I dont want to disrespect omni, like this fuy did.. i may not donate, i may not try to suck up to him, nor make money of his site, but i know hes seen me around for a while (oh his rep while ago proves it) and i wouldnt disrespect him.
I dont really know what else to say man but atleast your not down $1,000. I know alot about fraud, by me mentioning that i am nkt incriminating my self but instead mentioning that ive educated my self. Ive test different fraud systems for months and got chance to play with the, understand them, and at the end avoid being flagged by them. Whether it be financial or third party for webpages. It takes alot of educations, dedication, and will power to succeed in that field.
The big guys that make it can tell you that its like literslly putting your self through school, its stressful, and you only lesrn 60% which get you on par to what you need and how it works in general, the rest 40% is learning everyday new thigs that come out, security, updates, websites, methods, patches, etc.. you leave for a month, and the field changes.
I think this is the levels ive observed about people in the field.
1 a) ehh se'ing shouldnt really even be considered haha
1 b) carding, now theres expert carding which can blow most levels away but were going in order in which people go through.
2) payment processors, they learn a bit of opsec, learn from bad carding, didnt spend to much time tryn perfect their carding but managed to fet a $150 gift card after spending $75. So they take cards to payprocess.
(Note its why most these carded gift card sellers are noobs, no one in right mind kills card or acct for 60 to 75% of amount in gc.. its bs hassle.)
3) bank level - on this level is when few things can happen. The novice will realize no matter what he will need something or have to do something to have to succeed better and has to do with bank. Whether calling back bank, or getting bank acct, or he discovered new method but it uses bank accts and he needs one too. No matter whst big money tskes this.
4) the info is key level - in this level the person realized that the money they want comes froma person, that this person has info thst might be neded the intermediate novice now is expanding his horizon and his field of thought is growing. He realizes he needs as muh info possible to become his victim no matter what it is he does, he needs to know the victim like palm of his hand.
5) the plateau - in this level the person may have so many ideas to try so many paths to try to succeed in while trying to measure his time spent, his risk, snd resources. Its a small standstill as he struggles to get organized or into one place. The need to collaborate with multiple people is an urge to get advice or evem use people. At this point the individual is aware of carding, payment procc, shop creation, bit of opsec, bank accts, loans, checkd,
6) finally the realidt stage.. in this stage the individual has gain enough insight, enough wisdom to see the truth. He may decide to leave and say eh its too muvh. Or he may stay. If he stays he has gained something that only st this stage is earned. He has no more need for instant gratification, he has patience, he is realistic about earnings, he has clarity and cares about improving and is not scared to try any method, but knows now that he can only do so one at a time no matter the length. Now hes interested in expanding and researching, even if its carding, he gets tht the longer a plsn or method is, the bigger profits.
That is the 60% level mark, the 40% is unknown because youvd lost the fear of thee unknown. (Will i make money, omg when will i understand, omg i should give up idk if i got whst it tskes, omg this takes too long, which method should i do.?? That is the fear)
Hopefully without going in depth to avoid disallowed bh topics you understand. I hope you decide now whether you would to pursue this field to make up for what youve lost, or you take this loss and move on. I thought id give a bit of knowledge and advice to make you feel better, may not be much but yea. Tbh a method like that isnt work even $100. Something worth $500 $1,000 even mentioning it here will be like what...
Plus less than 90% of people who have a mrthod that would be work 1k, wouldnt cus it means they make more money off it hahahaha..
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Oct 9, 2016 11:45 AM
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I can't believe Black Shadow would use his 5,000+ reputation to do something like this.
Hopefully you get your money back OP.
PS: you should add this to the deal dispute database: https://hackforums.net/disputedb.php
> losses 3K$ on bustabit
> Claims he's selling legit method
> Scams.
He's such a pathetic human being.
(Oct 9, 2016 11:47 AM)Lovely❤️ Wrote: > losses 3K$ on bustabit
> Claims he's selling legit method
> Scams.
He's such a pathetic human being.
But his next update will surely work.
(Oct 9, 2016 09:10 AM)- Sam - Wrote: On your sales thread you quoted me saying the method was not blackhat and was completely legal. Apparently now someone has posted a dispute saying your method is straight up fraud and scamming, wanna explain that or you gonna dodge this question like you do with every other legitimate question in regards of your 'flawless' methods.
Do you also wanna explain why you constantly junk your sales thread soon as someone posts a negative response which states the truth? Then shortly after post the exact same thread.
Dodging is better option
Assuming you're talking about selling 'manuals' or whatevs marketed as actual products, the member you mentioned in OP was "Raverandi", I actually had resale rights to that book for a long while. It is most definitely illegal, harshly punished (speaking from experience if that wasn't apparent) and very much public.
(May 25, 2017 11:17 AM)c0ck Wrote: When you are dead you cease to exist and you will probably never be reborn or get into heaven and all that mickey mouse disney shit
(Oct 9, 2016 09:21 AM)Black Shadow Wrote: No I said I will refund you if you can prove that this is a public method?
I also said I have used your funds to pay a bill so I needed to sell more if you could provide proof
why don't you just use all your mad bustabit profits from your totally working method?
If it's true that you betted $3k just to fool us, you surely can afford to refund the guy :) Unless ofcourse you wasn't trying to fool us and lost a lot of money and is trying to look less stupid then what you already do.
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