[Chad ThunderCock]

How am I supposed to carry this shit.

And got demoted for this shit.

Then Riot blames me for being toxic XD

[President Morty]

i'm assuming this happened in bronze elo
It always happens to me too.

[DontQQSoMuch]

What is that Jayce build though O.O

[dufflez]

It sux but I main adc so I don't face that prob, my prob is the top lane dying every 3 minutes lmao, but my advice to u is save that tp for bot lane plays, try to stay in longer so that when u back u can buy items and tp bot. Bot lane is a sensitive lane lol once 1 side gets behind you are behind until you get help or enemy bot lane fucks up

Edit: also if ur bot lane is a losing matchup tell them to keep a ward in the bush closest to enemy so u can gank when their bot lane is at your tower, oldest trick in the book lol.

[eco999_temp]

I main ADC and I feel like this sometimes, I ever do really well or really bad...

[Chad ThunderCock]

i'm assuming this happened in bronze elo
It always happens to me too.

Gold 1 but Plat 5-4 MMR

What is that Jayce build though O.O

Son of Kasing Build
https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=sonofkasing

Trinity Force is incredibly powerful if you use Jayce as an ADC in Teamfights (Cannon mode, trinity passive with W does a TON of dmg on the first hit + atk speed + movement speed etc)

[icantyx]

Gold 1 but Plat 5-4 MMR



Son of Kasing Build
https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=sonofkasing

Trinity Force is incredibly powerful if you use Jayce as an ADC in Teamfights (Cannon mode, trinity passive with W does a TON of dmg on the first hit + atk speed + movement speed etc)

But that just means you're playing to win the lane, not the match. Think of the bigger picture, always play to help out your team not yourself. You'll gain elo, I tried to explain that to you in our last game.

Goodluck man.

[DownOnDrugs]

How you're supposed to win? Stop being shit.
You clearly didn't even bother to help botlane, you just stayed top and complained.
You could've roamed or lane swapped and carried them, but instead you just complain.
Typical bronze mentality.

[test]

That's just part of League unfortunately. You sometimes get people that happen to feed on your team, the Enemy team sometimes gets them. It's pretty hit and miss.

[Chad ThunderCock]

But that just means you're playing to win the lane, not the match. Think of the bigger picture, always play to help out your team not yourself. You'll gain elo, I tried to explain that to you in our last game.

Goodluck man.

Tbh statistically speaking Ignite has ~1-2% higher winratio on Top Lane over TP in every single rank (Bronze to Challenger). But I understand what you mean, I actually have a decent winratio with Jayce now after watching Son of Kasing play with him (he has 90% winratio with Jayce on 60 games 600LP Challenger) And his build helps a ton with positioning & teamfight potential.

How you're supposed to win? Stop being shit.
You clearly didn't even bother to help botlane, you just stayed top and complained.
You could've roamed or lane swapped and carried them, but instead you just complain.
Typical bronze mentality.

So I have to sacrifice my laning potential & domination to get TP which is a high variance summoner spell.

Taking TP doesn't mean you can help bot lane, in most games if you TP the enemy bot lane will just back off & it's a complete waste of a TP which not only makes my laning phase suffer but also the whole team because I TP for literally nothing & gotta walk back up to top meanwhile the enemy has free farm & possibly turret. When trying to 3 v 3 in case enemy jungler ganks bot lane it results in at least half of the times in a 2 v 3 because either my support or adc are low / dead by the time the tp finishes.

Sure TP SOMETIMES works to help bot lane but that's not always possible, very rarely does it actually help, probably the reason why ignite has a higher winratio in Solo Q as well.

[DownOnDrugs]

So I have to sacrifice my laning potential & domination to get TP which is a high variance summoner spell.

Taking TP doesn't mean you can help bot lane, in most games if you TP the enemy bot lane will just back off & it's a complete waste of a TP which not only makes my laning phase suffer but also the whole team because I TP for literally nothing & gotta walk back up to top meanwhile the enemy has free farm & possibly turret. When trying to 3 v 3 in case enemy jungler ganks bot lane it results in at least half of the times in a 2 v 3 because either my support or adc are low / dead by the time the tp finishes.

Sure TP SOMETIMES works to help bot lane but that's not always possible, very rarely does it actually help, probably the reason why ignite has a higher winratio in Solo Q as well.

Sacrifice laning potential and domination to get TP? If you think it's a sacrifices then it makes it more fun. Irelia even took TP, I doubt the ignite helped you more than TP would've been able to do.

"Taking TP doesn't mean you can help bot lane, in most games if you TP the enemy bot lane will just back off & it's a complete waste of a TP" - That means you don't know when and how to TP. If enemy team engages bot then you TP, they can't fall back then. Or if your team have a deep ward you can TP to, so they can't possibly get away.

And besides that, even if you wanna go ignite, you can still roam to botlane. You don't need the TP.
However, with ignite you gotta have huge lane dominance and get first tower pretty quickly. After you got first tower you just push in the lane and go bot.

You again keep complaining, which again shows your mentality is the only problem. Or well, your mechanics might suck too, but you can get to diamond with good mentality and horrible mechanics anyways.

[Chad ThunderCock]

Sacrifice laning potential and domination to get TP? If you think it's a sacrifices then it makes it more fun. Irelia even took TP, I doubt the ignite helped you more than TP would've been able to do.

"Taking TP doesn't mean you can help bot lane, in most games if you TP the enemy bot lane will just back off & it's a complete waste of a TP" - That means you don't know when and how to TP. If enemy team engages bot then you TP, they can't fall back then. Or if your team have a deep ward you can TP to, so they can't possibly get away.

And besides that, even if you wanna go ignite, you can still roam to botlane. You don't need the TP.
However, with ignite you gotta have huge lane dominance and get first tower pretty quickly. After you got first tower you just push in the lane and go bot.

You again keep complaining, which again shows your mentality is the only problem. Or well, your mechanics might suck too, but you can get to diamond with good mentality and horrible mechanics anyways.

By sacrificing lane dominance I mean with ignite I can easily fight any top laner & as such I can zone them, denying them farm, allowing me to farm even better, denying them levels & easily getting kills. Also helps a lot when being ganked as I've done plenty of 2 v 1's due to ignite.

TP allows for an even lane you can still win it obviously but you won't be anywhere near as strong & won't deny anywhere near as much farm/gold/levels as you will with ignite.

Not to mention that bot lane loses due to going for 2 v 2's and not because my enemy top laner TPs. Perhaps my enemy top laner influenced bot lane once or twice in my last 20 games.


It's not that my mentality is bad, it's just that I play my part and they play theres. If my enemy laner TPS and gets a double and I can't get anything in exchange like the tower, sure blame me.

If I can't win lane even with ignite, sure blame me.

But if I am ahead 20-30+ CS, 1-2 levels above & solo killed him once or more times then I'm sorry but I'll be far more helpful that he will in any teamfight.

In a ideal game, if all the other lanes were even this advantage I got in lane would be insane.


And tbh, most master/challenger top mains recommend u to never leave lane & just splitpush ur lanes, which I may start doing since I try to focus too much on teamfights & it's 50/50, a single grab or hook or shitty positioning from a teammate / enemy team player can easily turn the game around.

[Delta]

Can't carry every game buddy. Sometimes you just have to take the loss and move on. Shit like this isn't carryable unless you stop your lane as hard as the ez did.

[DownOnDrugs]

By sacrificing lane dominance I mean with ignite I can easily fight any top laner & as such I can zone them, denying them farm, allowing me to farm even better, denying them levels & easily getting kills. Also helps a lot when being ganked as I've done plenty of 2 v 1's due to ignite.

TP allows for an even lane you can still win it obviously but you won't be anywhere near as strong & won't deny anywhere near as much farm/gold/levels as you will with ignite.

Not to mention that bot lane loses due to going for 2 v 2's and not because my enemy top laner TPs. Perhaps my enemy top laner influenced bot lane once or twice in my last 20 games.


It's not that my mentality is bad, it's just that I play my part and they play theres. If my enemy laner TPS and gets a double and I can't get anything in exchange like the tower, sure blame me.

If I can't win lane even with ignite, sure blame me.

But if I am ahead 20-30+ CS, 1-2 levels above & solo killed him once or more times then I'm sorry but I'll be far more helpful that he will in any teamfight.

In a ideal game, if all the other lanes were even this advantage I got in lane would be insane.


And tbh, most master/challenger top mains recommend u to never leave lane & just splitpush ur lanes, which I may start doing since I try to focus too much on teamfights & it's 50/50, a single grab or hook or shitty positioning from a teammate / enemy team player can easily turn the game around.

Sure, you denied a bit of CS, but their top was still 3 levels higher and a head on CS compared to your ADC, so clearly their bot lane shut down even more than you did. If you had stopped them, your top laner maybe had a level more and a bit more CS, but instead your ADC would be able to get ahead.

League of Legends is a team game, not a 1v1 game. You don't win games by winning your lane. You win games by destroying their nexus, and that's pretty hard to do alone.

"But if I am ahead 20-30+ CS, 1-2 levels above & solo killed him once or more times then I'm sorry but I'll be far more helpful that he will in any teamfight." - Not always the case. Irelia can still just jump in and kill Vayne, maybe even Bard on top of that too. But you can't jump in and Ezreal and Thresh. For the team itself, Irelia might even be more useful than you were for your own team. Irelia just made you stay top, so their botlane could get fed. Who cares if you're ahead of Irelia when the rest of your team is behind. You're not going to solo carry anyways.

And correct most master/challenger tops recommend that, but you're not high elo. In master tier/challenger your botlane will never be able to go 2/22/1, because their teammates knows when to help them, and they play passive instead of fighting if they're not winning.
That's not the case in your elo.

You can easily split push if you want, and you can easily win games on it, but low elo split pushing is not the smartest. People in low elo have bad map awareness, and generally a bad game sense too, so you won't know when to go back, and you'll just end up dying.

If you wanna split push, remember to buy wards and look at the map.

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Can't carry every game buddy. Sometimes you just have to take the loss and move on. Shit like this isn't carryable unless you stop your lane as hard as the ez did.

Every single game in the world is carryable if you make just the right plays. This game could've easily been won with a bit of tryharding and logical thinking.

[Chad ThunderCock]

Sure, you denied a bit of CS, but their top was still 3 levels higher and a head on CS compared to your ADC, so clearly their bot lane shut down even more than you did. If you had stopped them, your top laner maybe had a level more and a bit more CS, but instead your ADC would be able to get ahead.

League of Legends is a team game, not a 1v1 game. You don't win games by winning your lane. You win games by destroying their nexus, and that's pretty hard to do alone.

"But if I am ahead 20-30+ CS, 1-2 levels above & solo killed him once or more times then I'm sorry but I'll be far more helpful that he will in any teamfight." - Not always the case. Irelia can still just jump in and kill Vayne, maybe even Bard on top of that too. But you can't jump in and Ezreal and Thresh. For the team itself, Irelia might even be more useful than you were for your own team. Irelia just made you stay top, so their botlane could get fed. Who cares if you're ahead of Irelia when the rest of your team is behind. You're not going to solo carry anyways.

And correct most master/challenger tops recommend that, but you're not high elo. In master tier/challenger your botlane will never be able to go 2/22/1, because their teammates knows when to help them, and they play passive instead of fighting if they're not winning.
That's not the case in your elo.

You can easily split push if you want, and you can easily win games on it, but low elo split pushing is not the smartest. People in low elo have bad map awareness, and generally a bad game sense too, so you won't know when to go back, and you'll just end up dying.

If you wanna split push, remember to buy wards and look at the map.

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Every single game in the world is carryable if you make just the right plays. This game could've easily been won with a bit of tryharding and logical thinking.

TBH I always had problems carrying games when fed/ahead.

I wasn't really the problem but I just couldn't help my team get ahead by using my advantage, I still has a good/decent winratio (as u can see in my op.gg) but I recently started playing a lot more safe, instead of abusing my advantage to get more kills I abuse my advantage to help mid and bot get their turrets & avoid unnecessary risky plays. (Which I used to go for when I was fed)

I die A LOT less now, still doing top damage & being able to carry a lot more.

Only problem is that if bot lane feeds I can't carry because they're 2 feeding and not only 2 so it becomes a huge problem. Gotta find how to deal with that and eveyrthing else