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Feb 12, 2018 10:28 AM
(This post was last modified: Feb 12, 2018 10:29 AM by King of Spades.)
I just wanna take a minute and address how new members are treated as though they have AIDS. It's been almost impossible for me to find someone willing to exchange $50 ETH for my PayPal.
What is it? Why are we shunned?
It's to the point now where I've sent screenshots of my PayPal showing the last 4 of the credit card and bank accounts linked to it. As well as screenshots of my bank account from the online banking end and an actual picture of the credit card linked to my PayPal with everything but the last 4 covered on top of a piece of paper which I wrote on saying "King of Spades @ HF - 2018-02-12".
What's next? A screenshot of my power bill showing my name and address matching what's on PayPal with actual pictures of my apartment door to show the number and the building to show the number?
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Because you can chargeback on paypal, and you're a new user, low rep, normal.
Why would anyone take the risk of you running away? It happens all the time.
If you sell BTC, you'll get thousands of offers, including a lot of scammers.
Joined Feb 2018.
Try exchanging your paypal for crypto via xchange websites without getting asked for "A screenshot of my power bill showing my name and address matching what's on PayPal with actual pictures of my apartment door to show the number and the building to show the number?"
I'd add ID and a pic of you holding the ID.
Don't complain.
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Feb 12, 2018 10:35 AM
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:31 AM)Shorta Wrote: Because you can chargeback on paypal, and you're a new user, low rep, normal.
Why would anyone take the risk of you running away? It happens all the time.
If you sell BTC, you'll get thousands of offers, including a lot of scammers.
But what I don't understand is why they're so afraid to deal with someone in my position. Paying with their verified personal account with the PayPal balance who proved ownership. And willing to go first and do F&F which is a bitch to charge back. Because I'd have to claim it as unauthorized and actually pass the investigation. Which means I'd have to login from an unusual device or IP.
I'm even willing to screenshare so they can see my proxy settings and I can show I'm not running a VPN.
(Feb 12, 2018 10:33 AM)Bos™ Wrote: Joined Feb 2018.
Try exchanging your paypal for crypto via xchange websites without getting asked for "A screenshot of my power bill showing my name and address matching what's on PayPal with actual pictures of my apartment door to show the number and the building to show the number?"
I'd add ID and a pic of you holding the ID.
Don't complain.
There is such a site.
https://localethereum.com/
But their rates are retarded.
I'd much rather prove my ownership over my account and cards to a seller on HF than pay $100 for $50 worth of ETH.
Edit:
I'm just gonna eat my foot. A seller came online that's only charge me $55 PP for the $50 ETH.
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I wouldn’t trust you either you just joined
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:43 AM)Cagey Wrote: I wouldn’t trust you either you just joined
Not even after proof of ownership? With me going first? Sending as F&F?
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:44 AM)King of Spades Wrote: Not even after proof of ownership? With me going first? Sending as F&F?
I’ve won disputes going first f&f
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Feb 12, 2018 10:48 AM
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:45 AM)Cagey Wrote: I’ve won disputes going first f&f
I've never won a dispute as F&F. Otherwise I'd be $150 richer lol. First deal on here the dude scammed me with a fake BTC transaction. Next offer I got was 0.06 ETH for $60 from someone who's possibly exit scamming. He has open DDs so I refused to deal with him until they're resolved. He wanted me to go first or use MM at my expense. I offered to use MM at his expense since he had open DDs. He didn't wanna do the exchange anymore.
User: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=3682988
DD: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5785988
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:28 AM)King of Spades Wrote: I just wanna take a minute and address how new members are treated as though they have AIDS. It's been almost impossible for me to find someone willing to exchange $50 ETH for my PayPal.
What is it? Why are we shunned?
Charge backs and Stolen accounts, simple as that.
My paypal comes from one of 2 addresses.
- My business, or my personal, both are known and recognized.
Yours however, is not....
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Feb 12, 2018 10:53 AM
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:52 AM)Armada Wrote: Charge backs and Stolen accounts, simple as that.
My paypal comes from one of 2 addresses.
- My business, or my personal, both are known and recognized.
Yours however, is not....
It will be in time.
Off topic: I have a business account for doing GFX work, but I have no idea what the point is. What are the benefits other than concealing my identity?
Because well-established users will usually decline to deal with a newly created regular account.
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:53 AM)King of Spades Wrote: It will be in time.
Off topic: I have a business account for doing GFX work, but I have no idea what the point is. What are the benefits other than concealing my identity?
Keep it simple, you need to establish yourself. Be patient and be a good member, it will come.
Your account is 6 days old, Mine is 7 years....
Simple logic would say people are gonna likely trust me first.
- Upgrading your account also helps, it shows us you are committed to the community and willing to put some effort and time, and above all $ investment in it all.
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Feb 12, 2018 11:07 AM
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:59 AM)Armada Wrote: Keep it simple, you need to establish yourself. Be patient and be a good member, it will come.
Your account is 6 days old, Mine is 7 years....
Simple logic would say people are gonna likely trust me first.
- Upgrading your account also helps, it shows us you are committed to the community and willing to put some effort and time, and above all $ investment in it all.
I can upgrade as soon as I get ETH. That's the main problem at hand.
That or I can PM Bezo but he's one of the ones who doesn't deal with new members for the most part. He might work with me since he's a fellow Canadian. Who knows.
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(Feb 12, 2018 10:55 AM)Saltpeter Wrote: Because well-established users will usually decline to deal with a newly created regular account.
I agree with Him ! You can use Paxful or Local btc to exchange but they require verification
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(Feb 12, 2018 11:07 AM)King of Spades Wrote: I can upgrade as soon as I get ETH. That's the main problem at hand.
That or I can PM Bezo but he's one of the ones who doesn't deal with new members for the most part. He might work with me since he's a fellow Canadian. Who knows.
Can you give me just one good reason as to why someone should trust you?
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