[Sanchez Sales]

Alright, Lets go back to august 22nd. he purchased my account, Also stated in contract he owed me 15m which was never paid, He also got banned shortly after. Never attempted to reach out. I recently Took action against him by disputing the transaction, As well as recovering the account, AS I STATED I WOULD DO IF HE DID NOT PAY ME.
So lets go here to his new HF account >
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=4012610 So he is now ban evading. Also trashing my thread, Which has been up since july without any issues / disputes / complaints.
Spooky's thread which i RESOLD the account: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5887333 you can see Xeenon AKA Captativity1 also decides to trash the thread here.

Continue to discord:
Note how he constantly brings up that he was deployed, and was in hospital for 20 days because of an IED:

https://gyazo.com/6e462ca91a694f63326b79a711c27061
https://gyazo.com/aa5d0395a42fb7f85ebbb8a550a985b3
https://gyazo.com/728c1312b2b1d710dfecc17da3a1b871
https://gyazo.com/a4dd11b020152a5a2c333a1651b407dd
https://gyazo.com/810a2204e878eea9a83bf18a38daca98
https://gyazo.com/ca699256613b013ea4f708272ac9025b
https://gyazo.com/4e35890844d843c4e8f66ee8e8728798
(link posted in discord) https://gyazo.com/4e35890844d843c4e8f66ee8e8728798
https://gyazo.com/cb4b344799a140b4ff7d6c9753addda6
https://gyazo.com/7b3176f93ceeb2642f03e2c922e3fe91
(again another link posted in discord) https://gyazo.com/7b3176f93ceeb2642f03e2c922e3fe91
https://gyazo.com/dea844be963f24ce3244cf81de03da26
https://gyazo.com/17c4dbcc0cfd7b3dc3c791d8af7cebcc
https://gyazo.com/e6d0b911ae36121fadf8157b08778363
(Note 20 minutes between these messages I was at the store. He doesn't like that)
Lets not mention also trashing my thread as well.
https://gyazo.com/17200674ba1bdebedd768b596d091c8d
located here: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...937&page=9

And here we are, Trade dispute in the contract system, and posted here.

Thoughts?

[Capativity]

Hi True Life,

I'm glad you took the hassle of creating this thread for me, alongside all the proof I needed.

I'd like to address this deal dispute by taking exactly what you are saying throughout your message in here, and then showing how biased and how big of a liar you are. Thanks for making that possible.

As well as recovering the account, AS I STATED I WOULD DO IF HE DID NOT PAY ME.

You are stating that you recovered the account (yourself), however, throughout our entire dialogue on Discord you continuously told me that you did NOT recover the account. You got mad at me for being very impatient of getting MY account back that I PURCHASED from you. Looking at the very own screenshots you provided in this deal dispute (Thanks for that), you are biasing yourself, when you are stating here: "gyazo com/810a2204e878eea9a83bf18a38daca98" that you did NOT recover the account; which one is it?

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So, throughout our entire messages on Discord you continue saying you DID NOT recover the account - however, you did - and you did not admit to this until I found the thread wherein spooky is selling MY account. This is sketchy.

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Now, you are stating that I did not pay what I owed to you (15,000,000 gold pieces) - we agreed that I would pay this sum as soon as I had profited this from the account during a revenant trip with my clan, Intense Redemption. First of all, I haven't played more than two days of progress on the account as I was on patrol after that, then hospitalized, and I just returned to my apartment Monday night, as I specifically told you. Anyway - we agreed that I would pay you in the "near future", and throughout our Discord messages you stated it wasn't okay for me to pay you "months later", when in fact, it has only been a month and four days since our deal went through.

I'd like to request one of the following as a settlement of our deal:

A) A refund of 160 million gold pieces.
B) Me re-gaining the ownership of the account, and I'll pay you 15 million gold pieces (I'll go ahead and purchase it from a gold selling site).
C) I want an account with at the bare minimum the exact same stats (60 attack, 99 strength, 94 magic, 94 ranged, 52 prayer, 96 hitpoints).

Thank you - hope we can solve this like men.

[Sanchez Sales]

Hi True Life,

I'm glad you took the hassle of creating this thread for me, alongside all the proof I needed.

I'd like to address this deal dispute by taking exactly what you are saying throughout your message in here, and then showing how biased and how big of a liar you are. Thanks for making that possible.

You are stating that you recovered the account (yourself), however, throughout our entire dialogue on Discord you continuously told me that you did NOT recover the account. You got mad at me for being very impatient of getting MY account back that I PURCHASED from you. Looking at the very own screenshots you provided in this deal dispute (Thanks for that), you are biasing yourself, when you are stating here: "gyazo com/810a2204e878eea9a83bf18a38daca98" that you did NOT recover the account; which one is it?

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So, throughout our entire messages on Discord you continue saying you DID NOT recover the account - however, you did - and you did not admit to this until I found the thread wherein spooky is selling MY account. This is sketchy.

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Now, you are stating that I did not pay what I owed to you (15,000,000 gold pieces) - we agreed that I would pay this sum as soon as I had profited this from the account during a revenant trip with my clan, Intense Redemption. First of all, I haven't played more than two days of progress on the account as I was on patrol after that, then hospitalized, and I just returned to my apartment Monday night, as I specifically told you. Anyway - we agreed that I would pay you in the "near future", and throughout our Discord messages you stated it wasn't okay for me to pay you "months later", when in fact, it has only been a month and four days since our deal went through.

I'd like to request one of the following as a settlement of our deal:

A) A refund of 160 million gold pieces.
B) Me re-gaining the ownership of the account, and I'll pay you 15 million gold pieces (I'll go ahead and purchase it from a gold selling site).
C) I want an account with at the bare minimum the exact same stats (60 attack, 99 strength, 94 magic, 94 ranged, 52 prayer, 96 hitpoints).

Thank you - hope we can solve this like men.

Because the fact you were severely rude to me and the fact that I was busy with my SON and you want to continue herrasing me over something you did wrong. I will not be refunding you. There are not any refunds. Did I stare at all I would refund you if you did not pay me? No. Just because I didn’t give a specific time frame, does not mean I need to sit here for over a month to wait for 15 million gold pieces from a banned hackforums member. That makes a lot of sense doesn’t it. No I will not give you the account back. Because like I said I resold it to spooky. Sorry I couldn’t give him a good deal like I gave you pay part now rest later. He paid in full. You as yourself a buyer in the contract system agreed in the NEAR future to pay the remainder which is owed. Otherwise action is taken. Let’s talk about this word now. Near. in the near future
Very soon, within a short time.
Okay short time. So that means whenever you feel like coughing it up right? I don’t think so. You don’t get to manipulate me coughing up a story like you’re in the military and was hit by an IED and was in the hospital for 20 days and flew back from Germany to the states and then ran errands today. Nah you don’t get to manipulate me here.

[Capativity]

Because the fact you were severely rude to me and the fact that I was busy with my SON and you want to continue herrasing me over something you did wrong. I will not be refunding you. There are not any refunds. Did I stare at all I would refund you if you did not pay me? No. Just because I didn’t give a specific time frame, does not mean I need to sit here for over a month to wait for 15 million gold pieces from a banned hackforums member. That makes a lot of sense doesn’t it. No I will not give you the account back. Because like I said I resold it to spooky. Sorry I couldn’t give him a good deal like I gave you pay part now rest later. He paid in full. You as yourself a buyer in the contract system agreed in the NEAR future to pay the remainder which is owed. Otherwise action is taken. Let’s talk about this word now. Near. in the near future
Very soon, within a short time.
Okay short time. So that means whenever you feel like coughing it up right? I don’t think so. You don’t get to manipulate me coughing up a story like you’re in the military and was hit by an IED and was in the hospital for 20 days and flew back from Germany to the states and then ran errands today. Nah you don’t get to manipulate me here.

So, I'd just like to get this very clear, perhaps by a simple "Yes"-answer.

You, a seller - is refusing to offer me - a buyer, either a refund for the amount I paid, a settling account or my own account back, after you - the buyer, tried to lie about NOT having recovered the account, when in fact you have?

You literally continued to lie on Discord constantly, until I caught the thread of spooky's, which goes against your "I did not recover the account" messages.

You lied - you got caught; now cough up.

[Sanchez Sales]

So, I'd just like to get this very clear, perhaps by a simple "Yes"-answer.

You, a seller - is refusing to offer me - a buyer, either a refund for the amount I paid, a settling account or my own account back, after you - the buyer, tried to lie about NOT having recovered the account, when in fact you have?

You literally continued to lie on Discord constantly, until I caught the thread of spooky's, which goes against your "I did not recover the account" messages.

You lied - you got caught; now cough up.

Okay so because you get banned and not even concerned about paying me what you owe. You gonna sit here and tell me cough up? You’re funny.

[Capativity]

Okay so because you get banned and not even concerned about paying me what you owe. You gonna sit here and tell me cough up? You’re funny.

You never answered the question about you lying?

Also, I told you in our messages that I would have intentionally paid you when I got back to base, which was two weeks - sorry I didn't foresee the injury. Nice to see you care more about 15 million gold than someone who could potentially have died in the line of duty.

[Sanchez Sales]

Tried to offer him a reasonable offer, Which he declined crying its not good enough. There for the dispute will stay open. ALSO lets now forget, He just made ANOTHER account. He is now Capativity instead of Capativity1

[Capativity]

True Life is currently trying to resolve this, however, he is offering accounts that are not half as decent as the account I purchased is. He is clearly admitting up to his guilt now, but he can't re-pay me remotely close to what I paid. Sketchy.

[Sanchez Sales]

True Life is currently trying to resolve this, however, he is offering accounts that are not half as decent as the account I purchased is. He is clearly admitting up to his guilt now, but he can't re-pay me remotely close to what I paid. Sketchy.

Okay sketchy, Because I'm trying to reason with a crying asshole that doesn't want to man up that you didn't pay me? All offers off the table, This dispute is staying

Done listening to him cry on discord, Trying to put the blame on me when he did not follow the contract, Blocked him and let him know he can contact me here if he wants to settle.
https://gyazo.com/eed95d2cc53076a96a75769c500f4064

[Capativity]

Okay sketchy, Because I'm trying to reason with a crying asshole that doesn't want to man up that you didn't pay me? All offers off the table, This dispute is staying

"All offers are off the table."

Thanks for admitting to be a scammer.

Your dispute is meaningless - you are only proving yourself to be a scammer in your dispute - admitting to having recovered the account in your dispute, while on the screenshots you provide, you are telling me that you definitely did not recover it.

A self-proclaimed scammer that tried, but failed miserably.

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TrueSMTPToday at 2:21 AM
My offers are off the table. You wanna settle this, We will settle it on site, Done with your Crying.
I tried to reason with you
but you still cry
HowlzeToday at 2:21 AM
You tried to reason?
You offered an account worth 50M
Lol
"You think I still have the 160m? I sold it before the price dropped. "
You are comparing cash to game currency.
TrueSMTPToday at 2:21 AM
that is not comparing
HowlzeToday at 2:21 AM
You are a kid that tried to scam - you failed. Admit up to your guilt and cough up.
TrueSMTPToday at 2:21 AM
if people are retarded enough to buy game gold with IRL cash
go for it
a kid?
alright
thats it
fuck you mother fucker meet me on the site if you wanna talk like a man"

LOL - I'm not a "mother fucker" for wanting my account back. This guy is like 18.

[Kicking]

You did not pay the full sum, even if you were down for 2 months or whatever, he stated that he'd recover the account if the amount was not paid.


Case closed, next time pay in full. I would personally have True pay the money back that was paid and move on.

[Capativity]

You did not pay the full sum, even if you were down for 2 months or whatever, he stated that he'd recover the account if the amount was not paid.


Case closed, next time pay in full. I would personally have True pay the money back that was paid and move on.

Let me declare the whole "full sum" propaganda.

True Life and I agreed that, word-for-word: ""I'll happily pay you 175M, 160M now and then another 15M once I get some rev loot with my clan, Intense Redemption." & "pay the other 15m osrs gp in the near future to finish paying the account"

Now, intentionally I would've paid the 15M two weeks after, when I got home - however, I did not foresee the delay. Anyway, True Life has regardless of it all also stolen 30M from me, which was on the account when he recovered it - so he owes me 160M for the account + 15M that he stole on top of the full payment. Currently True Life has gotten 160 + 30M from me, so 190M.

[Sanchez Sales]

Let me declare the whole "full sum" propaganda.

True Life and I agreed that, word-for-word: ""I'll happily pay you 175M, 160M now and then another 15M once I get some rev loot with my clan, Intense Redemption." & "pay the other 15m osrs gp in the near future to finish paying the account"

Now, intentionally I would've paid the 15M two weeks after, when I got home - however, I did not foresee the delay. Anyway, True Life has regardless of it all also stolen 30M from me, which was on the account when he recovered it - so he owes me 160M for the account + 15M that he stole on top of the full payment. Currently True Life has gotten 160 + 30M from me, so 190M.

Let us not forget, All of the scamming you have done : UID : 3308493

[Capativity]

Let us not forget, All of the scamming you have done : UID : 3308493

So you are trying to play yourself off based on my past? That is .. something.

[Kicking]

Let me declare the whole "full sum" propaganda.

True Life and I agreed that, word-for-word: ""I'll happily pay you 175M, 160M now and then another 15M once I get some rev loot with my clan, Intense Redemption." & "pay the other 15m osrs gp in the near future to finish paying the account"

Now, intentionally I would've paid the 15M two weeks after, when I got home - however, I did not foresee the delay. Anyway, True Life has regardless of it all also stolen 30M from me, which was on the account when he recovered it - so he owes me 160M for the account + 15M that he stole on top of the full payment. Currently True Life has gotten 160 + 30M from me, so 190M.

Bro. Honestly. Im not even fully siding with True on this one.
But in my experience of selling and buying shit. You never take partial payments or make partial payments unless you know its to like Affirm or some shit.

I think it's partially Trues fault for taking the partial payment and your fault for not making the full.

I think we can all agree here that the 160m is a loss due to dumb mistakes on both of your parts.