[SIM-3467872]

I think whether it's large amount or small if one wants to use a MM then other user must agree to it or close the deal. If they deny to use MM then it's a red flag and you shouldn't deal with him.

[Lil Wolf]

Personally if they won’t use a MM it’s a major red
Flag, that being said they can also see it as a waste of time cause then you have another member involved. I personally wouldn’t deal with someone who refuses a MM but I also don’t do large enough deals where I think it’s necessary

Imagine a MM for a $5 deal though is it worth it? or i see it alot where they bring some offsite mm um noo thanks i wanna use a reputable hf member if we do use a MM like i said though most deals i rather take my chances i get hit out of $250 yesterday but cause of my own ignorance.

[sonex]

If seller doesnt want to use MM then simply back off the deal and find someone else? Unsure what the discussion is about here.

MM makes sense for currency exchange, anything else it's pointless cause if you were to pay for "tool" or whatever, how do you assume MM will know whether it worked for you or you're just trying to exploit seller for free money? Who even wants to be involved in shit like that?

You were very vague on why you were declined MM, I'm 100% certain it's for some bullshit not a single sane person would use MM for therefore you're salty now.

[Lil Wolf]

I think whether it's large amount or small if one wants to use a MM then other user must agree to it or close the deal. If they deny to use MM then it's a red flag and you shouldn't deal with him.

You'd use a MM for $5? Or a MM who isn't from the site that you don't know at all? exactly their is other factors why i can see why people wouldnt want MM's what do you do if the MM scams both of yall?

[Semmenial]

One reason besides trying to scam would be trying to avoid paying fees. If the buyer is willing to pay the fees than he might be trying to scam.

Other than that, there's plenty of free middleman services, so most likely a scam.

[Lost99]

Because of the amount is probably not worth the middle man headache also the mm must be from this site and trusted i've seen so many people try to bring other mm they "know" i rather take my chance in a 1 on 1 deal that extra party makes everything more complicated.

Ok, for a $5 deal I wouldn’t use a MM.

But for a deal for e.g. $300 a mm will the better way.

And yes, I will prefer a MM from this Site.

[SIM-3467872]

You'd use a MM for $5? Or a MM who isn't from the site that you don't know at all? exactly their is other factors why i can see why people wouldnt want MM's what do you do if the MM scams both of yall?

For some people $5 is also worth and for MM both the party must be agree to choose a particular person as a MM.

[Scottyj01]

No offence intended but let me ask you this, "would you consider yourself reputable"? I think every seller is entitled to HOW they prefer to do business regardless. Some deals require you to purchase stuffs in order to get started on a job. Others are so so petty, you just goto ask yourself, why tf would you require an mm? Take for instance a deal worth of $50. I mean, isn't the contract system reliable enough to hold that in terms of proof(in case of a deal gone bad)?? My point being, to conclude that s/he is a scammer isn't always true. Check out some sales thread t.o.s and you would flip.

OT: OP, using mm is considered by many the safest way to do deals. Agreed. But again, some deals are too blackhat such that, a few sellers(even buyers) would not consider it comfortable to be discussed on here nor for a third party to be in the know. My advise? Do your own research before you hire anyone. My 2 cent.

I don't think the contract system actually does anything in the event of a scam, it's more of a name and shame if anything. So many scammers that have tons of disputes with undisputable evdience and yet to be banned. Like others said middlemen can also scam, it's all about being willing to lose whatever you're exchanging and making sure you do the right things to have the exchange be secure and safe. I didn't conclude that if they don't want a middleman doesn't make them a scammer :/

[Demize]

Imagine a MM for a $5 deal though is it worth it? or i see it alot where they bring some offsite mm um noo thanks i wanna use a reputable hf member if we do use a MM like i said though most deals i rather take my chances i get hit out of $250 yesterday but cause of my own ignorance.

Yeah that’s what I was saying is I don’t do big enough deals to require MMs. For 5-100$ it ain’t worth it

[Lost99]

Yeah that’s what I was saying is I don’t do big enough deals to require MMs. For 5-100$ it ain’t worth it

Yes for small deals a MM isn’t needed. $5-$100.

Please don’t misunderstand me. I talk about $500 or more...

And I am not in the opinion, that all members who doesn’t wanna have a MM for bigger transactions are all scammers...

[Lil Wolf]

I don't think the contract system actually does anything in the event of a scam, it's more of a name and shame if anything. So many scammers that have tons of disputes with undisputable evdience and yet to be banned. Like others said middlemen can also scam, it's all about being willing to lose whatever you're exchanging and  making sure you do the right things to have the exchange be secure and safe. I didn't conclude that if they don't want a middleman doesn't make them a scammer :/

Omni goes through them but theres so many of them thats why they have claiment and defendant i've seen many scammers get banned but it might be several months after the scam.

[SIM-3205632]

Sadly there are alot of reputable members that take advantage of new users and scam them without using a contract & then their disputes never see the light of day but yeah... Always use a contract.

[Deany]

No one is obligated to use MM. I personally dislike using them myself.
And no one is obligated to do deals either.
Just trust your instinct on things.

[Eagle 95]

It really depends on the circumstances. If you're doing a CE deal and you aren't sure, someone refusing to do a MM is a bad sign. For anything else, it's not black and white.

[Voxcon]

It really depends on the circumstances. If you're doing a CE deal and you aren't sure, someone refusing to do a MM is a bad sign. For anything else, it's not black and white.

I agree. For most currency exchanges using a MM makes sense, especially when dealing with larger amounts, but for the rest it really does depend on the things being traded and the circumstances over all. But i'd always be sceptical if somebody is refusing to use a known MM like Kill Joy, Lavish or me :D.

Best regards,
Vox