[TruthSpeaker]

So I been thinking to my self after this scam pandemic and scam virus started 3 years ago that things can change pretty rapidly under the right circumstances and social chaos can be unleased in any of our so called civilised west countries.

One day you might wake up only to find that the banking system is completely shut down , CBDCs are your new currency and you are under constant surveillance from the state. Most people accept this new reality and act like the good slaves they are🤮 . You however a free spirit, a capitalist and a believer in self sovereignity feel like a trapped animal that wants to break free and leave naturally.

Which country do you choose to start your life anew and why?🙄

[Drodeine]

At this point there doesn't seem to be any options.

[╚{ RadioActive Hack }╝]

I don’t see how socialism or capitalism has any part in these problems. It seems like either one could host such a reality.

The problem is greedy people at the top or just greedy people in general. The only way to stop such a dystopian world by creating a system where the leader or people of power are not influencing things for their own self interest. Surveillance to an extent can be good and benefit the people as a whole. It’s just making sure it doesn’t get abused and over step certain freedoms. There needs to be checks and balances put in place and a limit to surveillance.

[TruthSpeaker]

At this point there doesn't seem to be any options.

Latin America looks interesting to me.

maybe its because of the latinas😆

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I don’t see how socialism or capitalism has any part in these problems. It seems like either one could host such a reality.

The problem is greedy people at the top or just greedy people in general. The only way to stop the such a dystopian world by creating a system where the leader or people of power are not influencing things for their own self interest. Surveillance to an extent can be good and benefit the people as a whole. It’s just making sure it doesn’t get abused and over step certain freedoms. There needs to be checks and balances put in place and a limit to surveillance.

I can not say that I agree with your opinion.

However writing a full answer on why I have this view on this specific topic would take me a few thousand words and I still could not persuade you.

So the next best thing I can do is suggesting you to read Atlas Shrugged from Ayn Rand!🕵️

[James Burnham]

You can't escape, every country will follow that path. Maybe some African countries wont but how can you survive there?

[James Burnham]

The only country i could see myself moving to is either Finland or Switzerland.

Finland joined NATO and is bordered with Russia. There is a possibility of war coming.

[TruthSpeaker]

Finland joined NATO and is bordered with Russia. There is a possibility of war coming.

I was about to write the exact same argument.

well said

[TruthSpeaker]

Wont happen, they have no way to make entry apart for the east of Finland. And the last time they tried that was during the Winter war and they got their ass beat.

Not to mention that Norway and Denmark is already a part of NATO. Sweden is on its way in and has a healthy coastal artillery setup along the baltic sea inlet as well as archer batteries placed along the most important ports.

Its all just to puff themselves up and throw some tantrums.

Fair point but still I hate to live in a place with 6 months of winter minimum🤣

[╚{ RadioActive Hack }╝]

Latin America looks interesting to me.

maybe its because of the latinas😆

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I can not say that I agree with your opinion.

However writing a full answer on why I have this view on this specific topic would take me a few thousand words and I still could not persuade you.

So the next best thing I can do is suggesting you to read Atlas Shrugged from Ayn Rand!🕵️

Im not someone who commits to sides without reason. There is the possibility to sway me with good arguments. A person who is unwilling to accept that they are wrong on somthing, regardless of what arguments a put in front of them is nothing but a fool. Although even the best of us will fall into this pitfall at times, I try to leave myself open to logic and reason, before pride and fear of being wrong.

I acknowledge that socialists or more so, communists governments are historically much more prone to corruption and the greed of their leaders. I see this as an issue with the leadership rather than socialism in general. I don’t think most of the governments really achieve a true socialist system and just cloak them self in the ideology and just pretend.

I can’t see how a capitalist system leads to the prevention of surveillance, the power and motivation just come from a different angle. It’s certainly not helping with the governments of today. Both capitalist and socialist governments are doing this. It seems to be different elements of the system contributing to the problem.

I believe a mixture of socialism and capitalism is the best system for government. They both have strengths and weaknesses.
A pure capitalist system would lead to problems far greater than we have today in so many areas.
A pure socialist society would lead to stagnation in technology, science and industry and and overall an incapacity to improve the lives of the people likely just leading to collapse.

[LockFryer]

I really want to go to South America honestly. I've been learning and speaking Spanish for the past year and a half so it would work out well.

[TruthSpeaker]

I really want to go to South America honestly. I've been learning and speaking Spanish for the past year and a half so it would work out well.

Maybe I should also start learning the language, good idea

[B3A]

You can't escape, every country will follow that path. Maybe some African countries wont but how can you survive there?

Fit in. Learn how to hunt for your food like them and youll be fine.
As long as you dont get infected by any weird decease