Mar 5, 2025 04:06 AM
(This post was last modified: Mar 12, 2025 01:55 AM by gex231.)
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Fee reduced to 40% for the 1st person willing to give a vouch for the service. Required to be a trusted individual.
WHAT IS THIS?
In short, I do valuebetting. I place mathematically profitable bets on your account that guarantee a long term profit.
I will continue to do this until we agree I should stop, or the account gets limited by the bookie.
Why don't I just do this on my own account?
I did. Until it got limited because I took too much profit from them.
I cannot create new accounts as that requires submitting your identity. I do not plan on committing identity theft. 🙃
HOW DOES IT WORK?
You will create a new account, or use an existing account at a bookie I support, you will deposit a minimum of $300 (Preferably $500) on the account, and then you will give me the login details.
I will then place bets on your account until the desired profit is reached.
Every 2 weeks we will check the profit on the account, and you'll pay me my split of the profits.
Once the account gets limited, or the desired profit has been reached, I will stop placing bets, and you will pay me the remaining fee.
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?
I charge 50% of profit. If you deposit $500 to the bookie, I will turn it into $2k, then the total profit is $1500. You would owe me $750.
HOW DOES PAYMENT WORK?
You pay me what profit is on the account every 2 weeks.
If we start at $500, and after 2 weeks we have $750, then the total profit is $250, and you owe me $125.
In another 2 weeks the profit is at $1.2k then the profit is $450 (1200 - 750). You would owe me another $225.
If we stop there, then the total profit is $700, and you would have paid me $350, and kept $350 for yourself.
ARE THERE ANY RISKS?
1. Short term losses.
Short term risk of seeing some draw down. My bet sizing is setup to maximize balance, can expect up to 75% drawdown.
Explained in laymans, valuebetting is like flipping a coin (50% chance of winning) and getting more than double when you win. In this example, we'll say 2.1x return. Let's assume a $1 bet each time. The more bets placed, the closer you get to the expected return.
If we flip a coin 10 times, we could get tails 10 times, or 1 time. It varies a lot.
After 100 coin flips, we'll see closer to 50% win rate.
After 1000 coin flips, we can be reasonably sure that we'll get roughly 50% win rate.
At about 2000 coin flips, mathematically we have a 99% chance to beat variance. What this means is that we have a 99% chance of getting exactly 50% win rate.
Look up the variance or the monte carlo simulation for further reading if you want to get into the finer details.
TLDR; You will likely see some losses short term before we see profit. Max potential drawdown 75%.
2. The account will likely get limited.
This can mean total account ban (Cannot place any bets) or as small as bet size is limited on certain sports markets. This can take a year, a few months or even a few weeks. Entirely dependent on how fast they detect you. Older accounts take longer to get limited.
SUPPORTED BOOKIES:
Bet365 (Europe only)
Maybe more in the future, for now I'm sticking with bet365.
GUARANTEES:
If you do not see any profit before getting limited, or you lose everything on the account (Never happened before), You will receive a full refund, of my fee, and any losses from my bets.
Example:
If we start with $1k, 2 weeks later we have $1.5k, you pay me $250. I continue betting and we see some losses, and the balance is at $1100, then the account gets limited, then I will refund you the $250 you sent me, and you can keep the $100 profit.
If we start with $1k, and 2 weeks later we're at $750, you pay me nothing. Then the account gets limited at $750. Then I will pay you the $250 that you lost.
DISCLAIMERS:
Bets are placed using automation tools.
I'm not a salesman clearly. If someone would like to make an appealing thread for me, send a PM and I'll give a discount.
Start Contract
Fee reduced to 40% for the 1st person willing to give a vouch for the service. Required to be a trusted individual.
WHAT IS THIS?
In short, I do valuebetting. I place mathematically profitable bets on your account that guarantee a long term profit.
I will continue to do this until we agree I should stop, or the account gets limited by the bookie.
Why don't I just do this on my own account?
I did. Until it got limited because I took too much profit from them.
I cannot create new accounts as that requires submitting your identity. I do not plan on committing identity theft. 🙃
HOW DOES IT WORK?
You will create a new account, or use an existing account at a bookie I support, you will deposit a minimum of $300 (Preferably $500) on the account, and then you will give me the login details.
I will then place bets on your account until the desired profit is reached.
Every 2 weeks we will check the profit on the account, and you'll pay me my split of the profits.
Once the account gets limited, or the desired profit has been reached, I will stop placing bets, and you will pay me the remaining fee.
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?
I charge 50% of profit. If you deposit $500 to the bookie, I will turn it into $2k, then the total profit is $1500. You would owe me $750.
HOW DOES PAYMENT WORK?
You pay me what profit is on the account every 2 weeks.
If we start at $500, and after 2 weeks we have $750, then the total profit is $250, and you owe me $125.
In another 2 weeks the profit is at $1.2k then the profit is $450 (1200 - 750). You would owe me another $225.
If we stop there, then the total profit is $700, and you would have paid me $350, and kept $350 for yourself.
ARE THERE ANY RISKS?
1. Short term losses.
Short term risk of seeing some draw down. My bet sizing is setup to maximize balance, can expect up to 75% drawdown.
Explained in laymans, valuebetting is like flipping a coin (50% chance of winning) and getting more than double when you win. In this example, we'll say 2.1x return. Let's assume a $1 bet each time. The more bets placed, the closer you get to the expected return.
If we flip a coin 10 times, we could get tails 10 times, or 1 time. It varies a lot.
After 100 coin flips, we'll see closer to 50% win rate.
After 1000 coin flips, we can be reasonably sure that we'll get roughly 50% win rate.
At about 2000 coin flips, mathematically we have a 99% chance to beat variance. What this means is that we have a 99% chance of getting exactly 50% win rate.
Look up the variance or the monte carlo simulation for further reading if you want to get into the finer details.
TLDR; You will likely see some losses short term before we see profit. Max potential drawdown 75%.
2. The account will likely get limited.
This can mean total account ban (Cannot place any bets) or as small as bet size is limited on certain sports markets. This can take a year, a few months or even a few weeks. Entirely dependent on how fast they detect you. Older accounts take longer to get limited.
SUPPORTED BOOKIES:
Bet365 (Europe only)
Maybe more in the future, for now I'm sticking with bet365.
GUARANTEES:
If you do not see any profit before getting limited, or you lose everything on the account (Never happened before), You will receive a full refund, of my fee, and any losses from my bets.
Example:
If we start with $1k, 2 weeks later we have $1.5k, you pay me $250. I continue betting and we see some losses, and the balance is at $1100, then the account gets limited, then I will refund you the $250 you sent me, and you can keep the $100 profit.
If we start with $1k, and 2 weeks later we're at $750, you pay me nothing. Then the account gets limited at $750. Then I will pay you the $250 that you lost.
DISCLAIMERS:
Bets are placed using automation tools.
I'm not a salesman clearly. If someone would like to make an appealing thread for me, send a PM and I'll give a discount.
Start Contract
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