[zakrib]

SCAMMER HAS BEEN REPFUCKED AND BAN - JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED, THANK YOU TO ALL THE SUPPORTERS AND EVERYONE SUPPORTING THIS THREAD. HOPE THIS FEELS AS A RELIEF TO EVERYONE SCAMMED BY THIS KID. :)

ANYONE WHO FIGHTS ENOUGH AND DONT GIVE UP THEIR SCAM REPORT CAN HAVE THIS DONE! DONT GIVE UP AND DONT LAY DOWN EVEN IF THE SCAMMER THREATENS YOU!

Would also like to add that this was his co-owner (which basically means he was selling the same illegal product: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=1354359
His name is A Fox

EDIT: IF ANY ADMIN WANTS MORE PROOF THAT HE IS USING AN ILLEGAL METHOD OR THAT HE SCAMS PEOPLE OR ANYTHING (SUCH AS FULL LOGS AND MORE) FEEL FREE TO PM ME I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO PROVIDE FULL CHAT LOGS AND WHATEVER NEEDED![/size]

LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 7, HE EARLIER STATES NOTHING ILLEGAL WAS TOLD TO BE DONE, BUT AS CLEARLY PROVED ON THE PICTURE HE IS LYING!

I JUST WANT TO SAY SORRY THAT IMAGES A END ARE LINKS BUT ONLY 15 IMAGES COULD BE UPLOADED WITH EACH POST!

EDIT 2: PROOF OF MY PAYMENT TO HIM SINCE PEOPLE SAY I LIE:

I was recently lied to and scammed into buying a moneymaking guide here on hackforums by the owner of "AppIncome" formely calling his guide "AppMoney".

His skype is daniel.anonym - https://gyazo.com/337b76c1556bfc1a67166f2e40a30951

I will be providing full screenshots of the entire event, explain to you how it happened, and provide proof to the things I am accusing him of.

So firstly I will be explaining how it all began...

I stumbled upon a guide named "Appmoney" here on hackforums, a guide which seemed fairly interesting by the looks of it, but in my past I have bought several guides which in my opinion was a load of bullshit. So I took some time, scrolled through the thread and read some of the comments and vouches he had (Intellectus). Most of these vouches seemed to come from very close friends which he had and people who knew him from before. I noticed the price was 80$ USD which seemed a bit high, but did not really bother me...

Anyway I contacted the Owner of this guide called "Appmoney" and we started to have our own discussion about the guide etc (will provide pictures a bit into this report) and he told me all about it, how amazing it is and the incredible possibilites of it actually making HUGE amounts of money.

A bit into the conversation he starts telling me he makes an average of 200-300$ a day, here is a bit into the conversation we had so you get a look of how our conversation looks like:


Here is another part in which he say the WORST OUTCOME in his own words is you will make 105$, which was a load of bullshit (sorry for the language) in my opinion as i didnt make anything close to this:


Here is the continuation of the conversation we had. I marked things he said with green and things I said with red. He refused to provide the actualy proof. I told him I would not buy the guide, unfortunately I regret not keeping to this as I was fooled by his talk. He just send useless vouches which his friends have made on his behalf which is a complete lie that he made 500$ a day (which i headlined too):


Here in the end I mark the part where he basically refuses to actually provide the proof I ask of him and calls me a cheap ass (even before i bought the guide). I understand you may get annoyed but why do u refuse to provide proof? :


After random discussion cause we got into an argument after he said I will work at mcdonalds, he basically said that he is 100% sure this guide cannot get saturated, basically giving guarantee it cannot be saturated, I marked this line with green (sorry for bad writing on paint):


At this part out conversation more or less ends on hackforums and moves onto skype. His skype is daniel.anonym.

I will now provide proof of our skype conversations, promises he makes, how he disrespects me how he asks me to "leave a vouch" even though i will not do it nor agree with vouching for a guide i simply do not believe works, and how he gets verbal against me once I do leave a simple message on his thread telling the truth of his guide. (that my first account was suspended + that later on my second account gets suspended).

The skype conversation is more than 50 pages I would say, so I read through all of it and tried to take the most important parts without revealing the guide (because i dont want to have this thread taken down cause of a tiny reason that i am "leaking" his useless illegal guide)

1. In the following picture he specifically says it can basically be anything like a website, game or whatever (his advice of what websites to use basically) He tells me to just link the customers to a website (which is scamming and illegal).


Here is a part, this happened a few times, if I encountered an error he was supposed to help, but the replies he was giving was things like "just try again" "You probably did something wrong" "just figure it out please" - things which was his job since i did not know any scripting nor am good at computer, I managed to do the by myself after trying tho but he didnt want to "waste" time helping when he saw how unexperienced I was:


Here is another example once i did not understand - " you will figure it out urself"


getting more aggressive here:


THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT - HERE HE SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE ATLEAST A FEW APPS UP TO NOT GET CAUGHT, LATER HE GOES AGAINST SAYING THIS AND SAYS I AM MAKING IT UP AND THAT HE NEVER MADE THIS STATEMENT!!


HERE IS THE PART HE GOES AGAINST HIS OWN WORDS AND SAYS ONLY TO HAVE 2 APPS UP AT A SPECIFIC TIME! :


He claimed I was leaking his guide on other forums, which is a complete load of bull, I once offered him to sell on another forum, he denied (which later showed he already had a friend selling for him on that website).

Here is the picture where he admits selling to another website called CPA elite:


He provides me one app which just links to a website (completely scamming kids). I asked for a niche cause i needed help and he gave me this one. Here is proof he gave it to me:


Here he guarantees me it will make me money, I used his app, i followed his advice (of having several apps up which i provided proof from before) and I made total of 6$ earnings that week, but it went to 0$ since my account was suspended so basically I made 0$ that week. He swore he would personally setup an app for me (which was a lie and i lost 50$ investment + 25$ for the starting fee of making a google developer account. Here is proof of his guarantee and that he would personally setup the niche for me:


Here he stated before in his thread and in our convos that most people make money back "in a day", so basically quite some time pass and i make 0$ very far a way from the "worst outcome" of 105$ which he stated earlier. He just tries to push it away by "wait another day":
https://i.gyazo.com/43f64263d37999fa0fae...04c559.png

Btw, im pretty sure from previous conversations and other customers recognize one of the "claimed customers" that are legit vouching bla bla bla with huge earnings, well, all the dude he claimed who vouched for him and said all that was his friend - which in this case is selling his version of the same bullshit guide with "his template" for "only" 50$. He told me before they are not friends, and now he says they are friends. Here is the proof of this lying:
https://i.gyazo.com/ca95b5cd08ba4edee42d...82dd9c.png

Here - all of a sudden - after i bought the guide they were suddenly "goin into business with eachother". Earlier he told me he barely knew the guide during convos and that they were legit vouches, and now from nowhere they are close friends making business with eachother (after 2-3 days) very logic..... (sarcasm):
https://i.gyazo.com/887a87c82d8d2eb32f31...6fee63.png

Here he starts getting very agressive towards me because i told him i made 0$ and he keeps throwing into my face that i dont know how to zip a file which has nothing to do with the subject:

https://i.gyazo.com/795a63e6aea008b7fbe2...9bdbdd.png

https://i.gyazo.com/f4e357de88399f23c4fb...b9a830.png

HERE IS ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT PART, TRUTH WAS THE ONLY ONE TO MAKE ME REALISE I AM SCAMMED BECAUSE I DID NOT MAKE THE MONEY THE OWNER OF APPMONEY PROMISED, HE THEN RAGED AT ME AND SAY I SHOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE OF HIS GUIDE, "ASLONG AS U DONT SAY ABOUT MY GUIDE". ITS NONE OF HIS BUSINESS WHO I REP OR FOR WHAT REASON (PS, YES IT WAS BECAUSE OF UR GUIDE)!:
https://i.gyazo.com/1b955c8cd4226799b34b...03e8e6.png

This part is very funny, remember how he said "make several apps", he also earlier told me he himself had 9 apps up at most times. When i say i had my 7 apps up all of a sudden he acts surprised and says "wow" as if he had told me not to do that!:
https://i.gyazo.com/a38a96e0c8eb153e9f32...2692c9.png

Here he says its not his fault/problem, but its his advice i followed which got my account suspended:
https://i.gyazo.com/76e89b7aee5aa8e3d368...44129a.png
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Here the fun part begins, in his rage he wants to blaim everything on me, he is mad that i posted on his thread that my account go suspended and he starts disrespecting my like crazy:
https://i.gyazo.com/1f7994eb8fda04c984c8...a0f531.png
https://i.gyazo.com/4b54198f9b39e2047586...c7249d.png
https://i.gyazo.com/9e7fee12f458c25eb3f1...4b726b.png
https://i.gyazo.com/6ce55fe11d93e94061d8...6925c0.png

Here he is becoming very verbal saying bad words because I said I will leave a review of his guide:

https://i.gyazo.com/ac8823a99155783b0dbf...29fc87.png

Here he says im a faggot on steroids and much much more, for no reason, just because i want to make others aware of the scam and lies he is pulling, if i can afford to lose this money w/e, but why am i not allowed to let others know about this? makes no sence:
https://i.gyazo.com/2765eeea1c19690d2bcf...431842.png

Here he lies that he never said he would make me an app if i made 0 money (which u obv saw in above convo is not true, he is lying):
https://i.gyazo.com/8c923356b180d819e294...e985ca.png

Here I convince him of his lying, he promised he will "help" me onto a niche, which in my dictionary means he will give me a niche - I make the app myself. He did not keeps his promise. This was the help I would recieve IF I REMOVED MY POSTS WHICH I POSTED THAT MY ACC GOT SUSPENDED! Also I want to point out THAT I DID FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS/ADVICE AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT ME :

https://i.gyazo.com/51c009b5c1a1c9c265d2...5a30a4.png

Here is proof (continuted from above picture) that he tells me once i remove my posts I will recieve help. Once i do that he changes his word completely and says he cant give me a niche --> never gives me a niche!!

https://i.gyazo.com/b3634f2c2e614a2b6d7c...3948a3.png

Here if i remember it correctly he gives me a link in which he claims to another guy that his method contains nothing illegal (the same lies i was told) both of us knows its bullshit, I told him that and he "lol:ed":

https://i.gyazo.com/78e7c22a154d4a907afc...1995a6.png

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The following pics are from my second account getting suspended again. I personally took precations, signed it under my mothers name (which is completely different from me, even her last name), and from previous pics u saw he just told me to make new account (never told me to do under other names, however i took that precation by myself). For other reasons (i believe i was ratted) i reinstalled windows and saves shit i needed on a harddrive, so his claim that my cookies wasnt deleted is complete bullshit! :

https://i.gyazo.com/7923930c5adb863d02c0...3c38a3.png

Here you can see he gets aggressive, he says that he wont provide help, i told i will take actions and i think he realises i will open a scam report and all of a sudden, his help will come back and that is not what he "meant":
https://i.gyazo.com/bc1754cd5f49bf2d2c99...675bb5.png

Here i told him i would open the scam report - and he tells me i have been fingering my butthole all this time, nice responce from an owner of a very expensive guide dont you think?:

https://i.gyazo.com/4814cc5c7add90ef55df...1a86cd.png

Here he says he basically wont help me unless i delete the post i made today about getting my second account suspended. Notice the "im out unless you delete the posts":
https://i.gyazo.com/a572c984e62b56ce7a00...df8348.png

I first deleted my thread, but then i made the decition i am going to open a scam report, it was going to happen this time (had this thought for quite a while now). I got the impression i would recieve help even if i deleted the post which once again - I was wrong. Once he noticed I put up my comment again he raged at me as you will see in the following convo.

I then asked if I will still recieve help, it has been quite some time and i guess the answer is no since he still ignores me (wonder if he still will after this thread is posted). Here is the last part of convo:

https://i.gyazo.com/c326cce2a1afdbf81410...2dee43.png

I just lastly want to tell you I did not want to tell him what niches i used, (on second account) but i used atomworks and woozworld which i told him in chat. I dont believe this provides any specific use to this post so i chose not to upload it. I can upload it if anyone think its to any use in this scam report, what i basically just want to say is - BE AWARE OF THIS GUY.

He clearly cannot provide proof of his 200$-500$/day earnings other than what he makes from selling the guide. He rages at anyone who posts negativity of his guide and he is a complete jerk when you ask for help.

He also has "fake vouches" which he uses from people who havent even bought the guide aka --> HIS FRIENDS. He uses these vouches on the frontpage of his thread - here is just one of the examples (the reason is you cannot use it as a vouch for a product which he has not tried out or used as a vouch from a sale):
https://i.gyazo.com/f1b5c77064fb132ddc9b...577601.png

That is just one example, read his thread and you will find more.

Here is some more proof he says in his own thread it cannot be saturated (which is complete bullshit):
https://i.gyazo.com/a4b9f4301521f2a86c29...3ca503.png

And here are some posts from more customer saying IT CAN BE SATURATED - which is what i also would say after reading and knowing about this guide now:
https://i.gyazo.com/43030f1c3a4e2868188e...fe4ee9.png
https://i.gyazo.com/cd29b1ae304e28ae5fff...345bb7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/bd3c1fc6c96028fea733...f84087.png

Here even his friend and highest earner confirms it can be saturated:
https://i.gyazo.com/b08e0219c56c09bdcef9...afe77b.png

PLEASE ALSO DONT FORGET TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS "HELP IS MY GUARANTEE UNTIL MONEY MADE BACK", IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM HE SAID HE HAS NO OBLIGATION TO HELP ME - I HAVENT MADE A SINGLE DOLLAR BACK --> FALSE PROMISE AKA I GOT SCAMMED!!

https://i.gyazo.com/cf553716e7e1552d9f71...b09cbb.png

HERE IS A PART WHERE HE ASKS ME TO MAKE A FALSE STATEMENT IN A VOUCH (I TOLD HIM IT WASNT A VOUCH AND THAT I WOULD NOT LIE IF I MADE A POST!)
https://i.gyazo.com/704f1afdf9d4b858bec7...582945.png

My goal with this is not getting my 50$ back (which i know i will never get), but its the fact that the owner lies, disrespects/mistreats customers, lies about it being a legal method (it is illegal which is why accounts are getting suspended) and i know many others out there who bought this are in the same shoes as me. I just dont want people who perhaps actually cant afford get scammed by a skid lying to people about his ebook and the amount of money it makes.

This is the last time i buy one of these scams, maybe there are methods out there that makes money, but those people are smart enough to keep it to themselves, because if everyone starts doing it its not really going to make money. This guide however is a complete scam...

I personally lost 50$ buying it (there was a 30% discount that day) but others lost 80$. + I lost 25 $ x2=50$ on opening 2 new accounts and plenty of time.

Dont buy this guide unless you want to get scammed!!!

Link to the profile of his thread: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4313269

Link to the seller: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=1386013

EDIT: ONCE THE OWNER SAW I MADE THIS THREAD HE JUST THREATENED ME - HERE IS PROOF FROM SKYPE -
https://i.gyazo.com/eb66d07ac77c7fb2e029...d04c8c.png

[Darkwin]

Damn this is one carefully detailed report, Sorry for your loss with you the best!

[zakrib]

thanks man i highly appreciate it, I just want others to be aware and for this scammer to get banned. I put down over 2 hours collecting the evidence and tried to be as careful as possible so i dont get reported for "leaking"

[There]

I bought this ebook for $80 when it came out, and paid $25 for the developer account. So that's $105. I made around $100 with this method after one week, and my account got suspended.
Now I don't know if I should make another developer account as the method is indeed illegal and I don't want to risk another suspension and lose more money.

I spent a lot of time making apps and Intellectus gave me vague tips on how to not get suspended.
My account still got suspended and I feel like I spent all my time making the apps and designing their icons and whatever for nothing.

At one point, he literally told me to copy one app from the Apple App Store with the exact same screenshots and description.
I can post screenshots but the original post is enough.

I didn't make any profit and barely made my money back.
Now Intellectus and A Fox are asking for more money for an 'update', wtf?

[A Fox]

I made around $100 with this method after one week

This method is a scam but you made $100.00 which is still withdrawable from the merchant account?

Wow, best scam ever if it makes you money.

Ofcourse we are charging for the update why wouldnt we? custom templates, custom weekly niche list, forums, future ebook discounts I don't see a problem here?

[There]

This method is a scam but you made $100.00 which is still withdrawable from the merchant account?

Wow, best scam ever if it makes you money.

Ofcourse we are charging for the update why wouldnt we? custom templates, custom weekly niche list, forums, future ebook discounts I don't see a problem here?

I put hours in this and paid 105, so yes it is a scam. I didn't make any profit and this method wasted my time. Also, read the original post. Why are you responding to me?

Edit: And I'm not interested in your future eBooks, what will they consist of? Scamming grandmas instead of kids?

[A Fox]

I put hours in this and paid 105, so yes it is a scam. I didn't make any profit and this method wasted my time. Also, read the original post. Why are you responding to me?

Go to google wallet > Cashout > profit.

I'm making a post on the op in a minute.

[zakrib]

this method is illegal, the owner lies about many of the promises he makes, he has fake vouches, and getting account suspended that early is a 0$ earning. This is a scam method, basically a method to scam other people which is also not allowed on forums.

[A Fox]

this method is illegal, the owner lies about many of the promises he makes, he has fake vouches, and getting account suspended that early is a 0$ earning. This is a scam method, basically a method to scam other people which is also not allowed on forums.

Although I cannot stick up for intellectus, but I'm sure he told you this was a greyhat method to earning money, also, I'm unsure why YOU got suspended (same address? same name? same Credit card?) they look at this stuff.

He has no "Fake vouches" as im sure I and anyone can show you our earnings, I easily made $200.00 the 4 days after I purchased this and I got suspended too, but..... I registered a new account and STILL got to withdraw from the old account.

Sadly, Intellectus is on vacation until the 1st so, I guess we will have to wait for him to respond aswell.

[IMtense]

How can something be a scam if you tried it and it worked?
Just because you got a suspended account does not make this a scam.

You kids really need to learn a thing or two.

You should be banned for even making this thread.
and so should the fool that replied saying it's a scam, even tho hes telling you all he did earn from it!
I mean come on now..

[zakrib]

Although I cannot stick up for intellectus, but I'm sure he told you this was a greyhat method to earning money, also, I'm unsure why YOU got suspended (same address? same name? same Credit card?) they look at this stuff.

He has no "Fake vouches" as im sure I and anyone can show you our earnings, I easily made $200.00 the 4 days after I purchased this and I got suspended too, but..... I registered a new account and STILL got to withdraw from the old account.

Sadly, Intellectus is on vacation until the 1st so, I guess we will have to wait for him to respond aswell.

Have you had time to read through all the chat logs? he states it is not illegal if you ask him.

Funny thing is you havent read through the entire scam report as i stated i used another name, credit card, cleared coockies and everything you say i was probably not using. Before you make a post read the entire report, then come with an opinion, you will find 99% of answers in it!

I also stated the lies he told me (if u read through the report fully) the guarantees i was made and every bit of proof i have on this kid.

Read it through, look at all the proof i provided, then you may try to retaliate from it. But dont make assumptions by just reading the headlines and then make a statement. All answers are in the thread m8 :*

[00australia00]

Can't believe people still buying ebooks on HF

[Sm1th‌‌‌‌]

I have found that most if not all ebooks are complete scams. The last one I bought got my 1 year paypal perm limited as well as me IP + Adress banned on ebay.

[A Fox]

Have you had time to read through all the chat logs? he states it is not illegal if you ask him.

Funny thing is you havent read through the entire scam report as i stated i used another name, credit card, cleared coockies and everything you say i was probably not using. Before you make a post read the entire report, then come with an opinion, you will find 99% of answers in it!

I also stated the lies he told me (if u read through the report fully) the guarantees i was made and every bit of proof i have on this kid.

Read it through, look at all the proof i provided, then you may try to retaliate from it. But dont make assumptions by just reading the headlines and then make a statement. All answers are in the thread m8 :*

Don't be a smart-ass, sorry you didn't earn, and sorry you most likely are lieing about using different credentials.

edit; you didnt say you changed IP either, big no-no

[zakrib]

Don't be a smart-ass, sorry you didn't earn, and sorry you most likely are lieing about using different credentials.

edit; you didnt say you changed IP either, big no-no

I am not being a smartass, btw, i got a dynamic ip, do u know what that is or would you feel better if i explain what a dynamic ip is?

You are funny though, you may keep come with comments like that but once again you didnt read the entire thread, because if you had you would find answers to every statement you made ;)

nice try to retaliate though :*