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PTC Sites

Do I even have to explain this one? PTC sites are pure scheme and in no way you will ever beat it, and by beat it I mean make profit. Even if you invest 900$ and purchase referrals, at the end of the month you'll "think" you made 100$ while those 100$ will be a loss. I know it sounds crazy but if you never experienced it, dont.

Most of the referrals will either be botted or dead, hence they may click for a day/two and eventually they are gone, why? Cause system says so, nowadays you can purchase a PTC script for less than 30$ and set up your own site. I highly advice not to, it's saturated as fuck and not worth the hassle. Bottom line is, dont even think about PTC sites, just dont and take this advice seriously it will help you waste less time on bullshit.

PPC/CPC Sites
(dont mistaken this with actual advertising sites where you "pay" for clicks).

  • Adf.ly
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  • etc etc.

I cant even name them cause I tend not to get bothered with bullshit much lately. Basically they promise you up to 5$ per 1000 clicks, and I can swear many of you have no clue it's 5$ per 1k ONLY for US traffic, then you come to this section and ask why you dont make money. Quite simple, if you cant generate 100k clicks a day, dont bother either.

It's a waste of both time and traffic, not to mention SITE EXCHANGES doesnt work, so there goes yet another popular but damn stupid money making method. You're wasting your time and nowadays people dont click sketchy links anymore, even if you make a redirection loop-hole think of it as finding a quarter while walking through a park, that's unfortunately all you get.

If for instance you have some traffic source, rather use that traffic on CPA offers or even Affiliate Marketing, you'll have much greater success even if 1 out of 100 converts, cause the least paying offer is 30 cents which is more or less as much as you get by bringing it to adf.ly or sites alike. Bottom line : Complete and utter waste of traffic (if you have a real one).

Forum Posting

There used to be and there still are couple of sites where they offer you a certain rate for amount of posts you make and quality of words and whatnot. Let me straight tell you why it's a waste, you need couple hundreds of posts to make couple of bucks a day.

Guess what, you could actually write articles Best Article Writting Websites for even better pay, considering you know how to type and not plagiarize other peoples work. That's time well spent, if you prefer typing go to Yahoo and start writting articles, they can sell up to few hundreds a piece, obviously more words means greater pay.

Thans to Argyle please read his reply here to clarify on what to post/do - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id43178647

Exchange Sites

Sites such as the ones where you watch/do things in order to get credits which you can eventually use for greater cause. Waste. Even if you automate the whole process it's still a waste. Dont have much more to say about this since any normal guy with common sense would figure not to waste time nor trust such things. Those iPhone/Android apps comes under this category as well, it may be fun to do but it's a complete waste of your precious time.

Gambling

Whoever invented a technique to make money from gambling either owns the casino or hes an affiliate. You dont "make money gambling", poker, roulette and whatnot. You can only get lucky and "earn" some money, you cannot use it as your "technique" nor think of it as a source of income. If you're reading this and you gamble, continue gambling but make sure it's for fun not the other way around.

Ewhoring.

Yes Ewhoring, go on throw rocks at me say how it's the best thing you've ever done bla bla. And then let me ask you, how much time you spent getting that 20$ Amazon gift card? 30 mins? An hour maybe? I'd rather gamble 10$ in order to win 20$ and even lose than spending an hour pretending to be a fucked up girl who has nowhere to live for freaking 20$, yes you can make even more but is it really worth it? Can you say you're successfull?

If you brag about eWhoring then you're twisted as fuck, out of so many legal ways you pick to be a whore online. Have you read the articles about people who went so deep into it to get their real life fucked up? It's ok for quick buck or two, but that aint technique, it's being an idiot and God blessed us all so we can be idiots anytime needed. Drop with it and start doing some serious business.

Online Partnership.

How many times you read someone needing a partner and they ended up offering you to sell something for them as commision? Doesnt need to be eBay or shit like that, just plain re-selling from an unknown guy you just met online. Stay away from it, 9/10 will use you and get you in so much trouble that your only way out would be jail. Do not trust anyone, there's no partners online unless it's a real deal, anything that's based on re-selling is pure bullshit. And dont get confused here, I'm talking about individuals approaching you, not companies.

Investment Opportunity

Same as above, if you see someone promising you a certain revenue from your investment, make sure to know that's not gonna happen. Quite few people would share their financial strategies online and I'm talking about stocks and such, unless they are either affiliated with the company in question or actually own it. Dont fall for that.

Conclusion.

A legit income comes from both hard work and knowing what to do, there's no magic button though, everything requires a certain effort, certain skills and whatnot. Not a single method is "hard", they are all quite easy cause trust me it's easier to sit at home and read/do than work 9 to 5 in some shit hole. It's all about how persistent you are, if you want to make money, you'll make money. As always if you feel I left anything out or want clarification on certain things, let me know in comments below. Keep the thread alive so others can read it as well and hopefully stop wasting time.

Regards.

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Thanks for the advice OP. But I have to argue with you on the eWhore'ing being useless.
Personally I have made $200 over the weekend just from eWhoring (unsaturated method used but same concept).

But I guess if your looking to make massive amounts of money eWhore'ing would be a waste of time.
(Nov 4, 2014 05:56 PM)Gochu™ Wrote:  Thanks for the advice OP. But I have to argue with you on the eWhore'ing being useless.
Personally I have made $200 over the weekend just from eWhoring (unsaturated method used but same concept).

But I guess if your looking to make massive amounts of money eWhore'ing would be a waste of time.

As I said, it's ok to make a buck or two, but eWhoreing isnt a technique and it's highly immoral for most of the people hence I dont really recommend it though.
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Good informative post sonex. I remember I asked you about the eBay method, before you responded to my PM I got two sales within an hour. It was $500 and I was like holyfuck! but once you PM'd me not to do it, I quickly refunded the money but still managed to get in a negative balance. Sonex saved me from getting fucked over by a lot.
too many "crypto enthusiast" here
too many "uneducated swines" here
subtle difference? i dont think so.
(Nov 4, 2014 06:00 PM)Ginsum Wrote:  Good informative post sonex. I remember I asked you about the eBay method, before you responded to my PM I got two sales within an hour. It was $500 and I was like holyfuck! but once you PM'd me not to do it, I quickly refunded the money but still managed to get in a negative balance. Sonex saved me from getting fucked over by a lot.

Told you, you can get fucked up pretty easily when people promise shit such as scamming or some partnerships. Gladly it wasnt any worse than just negative balance.
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(Nov 4, 2014 05:57 PM)sonex Wrote:  As I said, it's ok to make a buck or two, but eWhoreing isnt a technique and it's highly immoral for most of the people hence I dont really recommend it though.

Can't argue with it being immoral.
Thanks for the post anyway, will help a lot of new entrepreneurs out.
I understand that some of the points are quite valid and true but some of your points only cover certain perspectives of the entire method.

(Nov 4, 2014 05:52 PM)sonex Wrote:  [align=center]Forum Posting

There used to be and there still are couple of sites where they offer you a certain rate for amount of posts you make and quality of words and whatnot. Let me straight tell you why it's a waste, you need couple hundreds of posts to make couple of bucks a day.

Guess what, you could actually write articles on Yahoo for even better pay, considering you know how to type and not plagiarize other peoples work. That's time well spent, if you prefer typing go to Yahoo and start writting articles, they can sell up to few hundreds a piece, obviously more words means greater pay.

I agree that sites (or people) that offer some lump of change in exchange for "quality" posts on their forum is a waste of time, but posting on forums is not at all a dead method.
Let me give you an example:
I am in the health niche, and I have a health blog. It would be wise of me to find forums/boards that allow me to have a bio (or even a signature if I am allowed one) so I may have the ability to say that "I have a site, check it out."
Obviously I would not just go on a spamming spree on this forums, but instead I would go ahead and answer questions to what people ask on these forums (health forums tend to lean on question threads than anything else.) If I covered this question before in a blog post on my site, I would cite my post with my blog post. People would eventually go onto my site and some would become active readers.

As for your point on making money when writing articles for other people, I would rather write articles for my own sites so I reap all possible profits that I could possibly generate.

(Nov 4, 2014 05:52 PM)sonex Wrote:  [align=center]Exchange Sites

Sites such as the ones where you watch/do things in order to get credits which you can eventually use for greater cause. Waste. Even if you automate the whole process it's still a waste. Dont have much more to say about this since any normal guy with common sense would figure not to waste time nor trust such things. Those iPhone/Android apps comes under this category as well, it may be fun to do but it's a complete waste of your precious time.

When it comes to traffic and social network exchange, I beg to differ. Yes, using the points/credits on yourself may be a waste of time, but if you sell the points/credits to someone that they may think it is a good idea to purchase, then you are in a gold mine.

Selling traffic and social boosting is so hot that it is quite competitive. There is so much money to be made.

As for your other point on the GPT (Get Paid To) apps that is springing up everywhere, I agree. They are a waste of time.

Overall, this is a great post. It does underline great points that people do have to understand.
Exchange Sites

Sites such as the ones where you watch/do things in order to get credits which you can eventually use for greater cause. Waste. Even if you automate the whole process it's still a waste. Dont have much more to say about this since any normal guy with common sense would figure not to waste time nor trust such things. Those iPhone/Android apps comes under this category as well, it may be fun to do but it's a complete waste of your precious time.

I don't agree with you, if you have a good VPS there are a few exchange sites if you have a youtube partership you can earn a bit of cash in your free time and as long as you have bots doing all the work (You are not clicking on each one) It can net you some cash. It won't make you rich but it can be worth it

You can just limit yourself to 1 social exchange click site you have to use all of them or a few of them. You can also use the points to sell services in social media exchange sites. I feel there is $$ to be made with these methods, it's not a waste of time

Great write up otherwise! I'm glad you spoke out about those adfly adclick scams :) I +3 you for a great post!

Keep up the good work :)
(Nov 4, 2014 06:24 PM)Argyle Wrote:  I agree that sites (or people) that offer some lump of change in exchange for "quality" posts on their forum is a waste of time, but posting on forums is not at all a dead method.
Let me give you an example:
I am in the health niche, and I have a health blog. It would be wise of me to find forums/boards that allow me to have a bio (or even a signature if I am allowed one) so I may have the ability to say that "I have a site, check it out."
Obviously I would not just go on a spamming spree on this forums, but instead I would go ahead and answer questions to what people ask on these forums (health forums tend to lean on question threads than anything else.) If I covered this question before in a blog post on my site, I would cite my post with my blog post. People would eventually go onto my site and some would become active readers.

You're absolutely correct, what I meant was actual posting for pocket change. Posting in a way you described is good for selling a product or advertising a CPA offers.

(Nov 4, 2014 06:24 PM)Argyle Wrote:  As for your point on making money when writing articles for other people, I would rather write articles for my own sites so I reap all possible profits that I could possibly generate.

True yet again, however do you expect a newbie to know how to write a proper article for a website? That's why it's hell lot easier for them to learn writting it for others first since it takes knowledge to know how to spin keywords.

(Nov 4, 2014 06:24 PM)Argyle Wrote:  When it comes to traffic and social network exchange, I beg to differ. Yes, using the points/credits on yourself may be a waste of time, but if you sell the points/credits to someone that they may think it is a good idea to purchase, then you are in a gold mine.

Selling traffic and social boosting is so hot that it is quite competitive. There is so much money to be made.

Maybe you should create a guide for it then? I know exactly what you mean but overall it's a waste cause most newbs dont know not to use it on themselves rather sell as a service or whatever, that's why it's best to leave it out unless there's a guide to follow here.

(Nov 4, 2014 06:27 PM)botrus Wrote:  I don't agree with you, if you have a good VPS there are a few exchange sites if you have a youtube partership you can earn a bit of cash in your free time and as long as you have bots doing all the work (You are not clicking on each one) It can net you some cash. It won't make you rich but it can be worth it

You can just limit yourself to 1 social exchange click site you have to use all of them or a few of them. You can also use the points to sell services in social media exchange sites. I feel there is $$ to be made with these methods, it's not a waste of time

Great write up otherwise! I'm glad you spoke out about those adfly adclick scams :) I +3 you for a great post!

Keep up the good work :)

Indeed your solution is possible as well but looking long term it's not really worth it when there's more and more options to pick from, that could be some 2nd income or whatever but setting it up can be complicated for someone who reads about making money online for the first time. You both have me some ideas to work on for the next time, sadly I know almost little to nothing about those bots and VPSs.
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(Nov 4, 2014 06:29 PM)sonex Wrote:  True yet again, however do you expect a newbie to know how to write a proper article for a website? That's why it's hell lot easier for them to learn writting it for others first since it takes knowledge to know how to spin keywords.

It does not take years to learn how to write a proper article. It may take as few as mere weeks with a good teacher.
Practicing sending in your articles to directories is a good idea yes, but it may turn away a lot of people if "newbies" do not understand at least some article writing techniques and their articles are rejected critically.
Getting your feet on the ground is the best idea, just do not jump down without any research though.

(Nov 4, 2014 06:29 PM)sonex Wrote:  Maybe you should create a guide for it then? I know exactly what you mean but overall it's a waste cause most newbs dont know not to use it on themselves rather sell as a service or whatever, that's why it's best to leave it out unless there's a guide to follow here.

It is not rocket science to decide to either
A. Use it for themselves, or
B. Sell it to someone else.

I might very well write a thread for this, it is as easy as it sounds.
Sonex my main man, thanks for posting this :)
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(Nov 4, 2014 06:42 PM)Argyle Wrote:  It does not take years to learn how to write a proper article. It may take as few as mere weeks with a good teacher.
Practicing sending in your articles to directories is a good idea yes, but it may turn away a lot of people if "newbies" do not understand at least some article writing techniques and their articles are rejected critically.
Getting your feet on the ground is the best idea, just do not jump down without any research though.

It is not rocket science to decide to either
A. Use it for themselves, or
B. Sell it to someone else.

I might very well write a thread for this, it is as easy as it sounds.

I might need to correct it a bit then, thats why I love discussing though, I do know quite few tricks but theres always someone knowing more. I'll get to it in the morning and make it a little easier to understand. Thank you for your input though!

(Nov 4, 2014 06:48 PM)Tɦɛ Gʀiɱ Wrote:  Sonex my main man, thanks for posting this :)

No problems buddy :)
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Very nice post Sonex! Always detailed and to the point. Love it
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Great thread Sonex! I totally agree with this especially with the ewhoreing part.. I honestly really don't get how people can use valueable time on it.

But.. All these methods are effective if someone knows how to use it correctly. But that counts with everything so yeah.

Anyways thanks for posting this, should be an eye opener for most people.
Nice list by the way....
For ptc sites to work you have to be really patience to earn good amount of money since it takes alot of time..and ofcoarse the site should be legit


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