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I want to buy a rat but none of them are FUD.... Why?
If someone creates a FUD Rat it would sell like crazy, no one likes to buy a Rat and a Crypter.
Haha, do you even know how hard it would be to constantly refud a stub?
The price would be ridicoulus.
Because the AV's already pick up the stub of the RAT when someone who purchased it before you uses it. In order to make it FUD you have to do some not so fun stuff in assembly, or obfuscate it other ways. Even if it was FUD when you bought it, it probably wouldn't stay FUD that long.
Dec 8, 2016 12:32 PM
(This post was last modified: Dec 8, 2016 12:32 PM by Purple Kief.)
A RAT that's freshly coded is FUD.
Then they get sold, scanned by AV's and uploaded to their DB's.
That's when stuff goes downhill.
It'd never last. You'd have to have it refudded every 2-3 days, so it would need to be a subscription based software to be worth it.
Or I guess you could get crazy and make it refud itself. If designed well enough I could see it staying fud for at least a month or 2 before needing to be reworked.
no it will be not unless you made your ounce rat sir
Dec 8, 2016 01:10 PM
(This post was last modified: Dec 8, 2016 01:10 PM by SIM-3124535.)
A rat cannot be FUD because it makes p2p connections and every other suspicious things which makes AVs detect it, and even if you create one, it wont be FUD for ever. You would have to reFUD it. So its basically impossible.
to keep up with the rate of detections and spreading and having multiple users you sold to...
would make it a hell of a job to keep it FUD.. so thats why
(Dec 8, 2016 11:55 AM)CichyCichoCiemny Wrote: Haha, do you even know how hard it would be to constantly refud a stub?
The price would be ridicoulus.
Yea, that would be crazy!
Too much time would be needed.
Private RAT's are FUD.. Public ones are not.
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(Dec 8, 2016 11:55 AM)CichyCichoCiemny Wrote: Haha, do you even know how hard it would be to constantly refud a stub?
The price would be ridicoulus.
Not as ridiculous as the time you spend coloring your posts.
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Public RAT's (Luminosity.Link, Orcus, nJRAT, etc.) won't be FUD. This is because they are mass-sold. Which means there are so many people using them, even if they were to be re-fud, they wouldnt last for a day.
If you want a FUD rat/logger, you'd have to get a private one, because those arent mass-distributed and won't be detected as fast as public ones (in the end, they will always be detected though, however the FUD-time on private
tools are so much greater compared to public stuff).
And since crypters are there, what's the problem? Get a quality crypter which gives you 0/35 and runtime FUD.
Public crypters will do in most cases if you don't care about the FUD time, the only fucking AV which will always fuck up public crypters is ESET, because of their sick runtime detection and distribution.
Also, to increase fudtime on your files, don't upload to distributing sites. Scan only with pscan.xyz or majyx scanner.
Be aware that nodistribute.com is a honeypot made by ESET. They actually do distribute all files which causes them to be detected by ESET in a matter of hours/days.
Good luck!
The main reason it being too hard and not worth the time, and other potential legal issues.
You can always edit open-source rats and make them fud.
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