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Suggestions about The Old Phantom Crypter and Trillium Security Multisploit Tool

I have noticed that the topics about these 2 products "The Old Phantom Crypter and Trillium Security Multisploit Tool" are never conclusive. A lot of people are asking for alternatives or rather opinions about whether to buy or not or how good they are and you mostly get negative views without a concrete answer that you can actually make use of in any useful. I get it that people have to say something on any given thread they come across, but whats the point of posting a comment that has no usefulness?

Meanwhile the owners market their products so while. Why dont the owners of these 2 crypters defend themselves like anyone else does pertaining to the other products when negative comments are posted? Also, why dont the people who have negative views or experiences suggest alternative solutions? Because its not easy to actually find a working product as advertised. I know there is a whole lot of good coders on here, so it might be a good idea to provide tutorials at a fee for those who would like to learn coding at a faster pace. The kind of coding am talking about is basically knowing how to code a specific product of interest and not the whole entire coding language.

That said, real coders, bring forth your offers and you might get yourselves some sales because people are hungry for solutions and not crap products being advertised by skids and scammers...Am out
You made quite some valid points my comrade. I hope the real actual coders can come out and mentor the teeming yearning enthusiasts like us. I'm in need of a good working exploit.. anyone who can help out? pls pm thanks.
can I have a forum for old phantom cryter. I need to be activated. Can anyone help add me up or give me a link. Its very urgent and desperate of me.
Many thanks!
phantom sux, make ur own crypter, opensource crypters are on this forum
how best can i compare the two? they major problem is detection rate is high most times within short periods


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