Jul 31, 2023 04:44 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 06:28 PM by Bullup.)
I'm in the position to easily and instantly create unlimited VCC's for Mastercard and Visa (100% entirely legal) and i can easily load my crypto into these VCC's as well and limit the spendings of each VCC to any amount i want and i also want to state out that these VCCs are accepted pretty much anywhere online as far as i know and have experienced throughout my ventures online for the past 3 years.
I was wondering if it's allowed to advertise a Crypto to VCC service here on HF as it's entirely legal and nothing shady goes on.
I'm also wondering what the usual % profit is that similar services charge on top of exchange rates and card fees.
Edit: Custom amounts possible (any amount but there will be a minimum)
My goal is a small group of repetitive customers, not interested to do 1000s customers at $5 as i'm too busy to handle such.
Quote:* Visa or Mastercard (Master is recommended) Chargebacks can be made if solid evidence is provided, and i'll be very very harsh on this one.
Refunds initiated by the seller can be processed with no issues and will be available up to 5 business days max. Can be used on amazon i've had greenlight for, shouldn't be an issue but i don't guarantee altho over 3 years i've always been able to use them anywhere i wanted to use, 100s transactions.
Address verification isn't a thing with these. Identity verification isn't a thing with these either.
Rarely payments can be blocked on a card to avoid fraud, but i can unlock these payments and then all will go through fine. Can be used for very large purchases.
Can be topped up multiple times/used for years Top ups go through me
Can generate a new VCC at every transaction if you wish, but this isn't required as VCC's can be topped up unlimited times.
Don't contact me for business deals that involve 1000s customers, i'm not interested in that.
Don't contact me if you are a refunder, i'm not interested in blackhat as i value my business relationship with this company.
Jul 31, 2023 05:07 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 05:08 PM by banonkiel.)
I have seen couple of those.
I think I saw $5 VCCs go for $10, which was very confusing for me, not 2x but $5 extra on any card balance or whatever.
Also saw people doing like, $10 or 10% fee for service, whichever is more and this was targeted for larger audiences.
Need to ask you since you mentioned that it "pretty much works everywhere" does that include Amazon US for example? I know for fact fresh accounts tend to get closed for next to no reason and order cancelled while they demand proof of ownership of used payment method.
Jul 31, 2023 05:09 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 05:13 PM by Bullup.)
(Jul 31, 2023 05:07 PM)banonkiel Wrote: I have seen couple of those.
I think I saw $5 VCCs go for $10, which was very confusing for me.
Also saw people doing like, $10 or 10% fee for service, whichever is more and this was targeted for larger audiences.
Need to ask you since you mentioned that it "pretty much works everywhere" does that include Amazon US for example? I know for fact fresh accounts tend to get closed for next to no reason and order cancelled while they demand proof of ownership of used payment method.
I'm not interested to do such low VCC's tho, and i also don't have to stick to fixed amounts either, if i want a Mastercard with a $123.83 limit on it, i can just put that limit on that specific card so the plan was custom amounts of your choice, but with a minimum, as there is no maximum.
The VCC's work on amazon as i've ordered in the past there yes with these VCC's (mastercard to be precise) but that wasn't US tho as i don't live in the US, also don't ask me how they deal with new accounts as i have no knowledge of that.
My goal is a small group of repetitive customers, not interested to do 1000s customers at $5 as i'm too busy to handle such.
But again my main question, would such a service be allowed here?
(Jul 31, 2023 05:09 PM)Bullup Wrote: The VCC's work on amazon as i've ordered in the past there yes with these VCC's (mastercard to be precise) but that wasn't US tho as i don't live in the US, also don't ask me how they deal with new accounts as i have no knowledge of that.
My goal is a small group of repetitive customers, not interested to do 1000s customers at $5 as i'm too busy to handle such.
I think US is the only country strict on the CC thing, but if it works worldwide then I guess that's good news.
but in the off-chance they demand any platform demands verification, would you be able to (A) charge-back payment and refund user or (B) provide said verification?
because that would be the difference between a common service and a superb service.
Anyway, I think it would be something like percentage or agreement depending on how much payment it needs.
I know for fact people on some other websites do this for around 5% but they take money upfront and I personally dealt with some of them.
Jul 31, 2023 05:27 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 05:31 PM by Bullup.)
(Jul 31, 2023 05:21 PM)Dyne Wrote: I would also like to know this, I will be interested immediately.
EDIT: If you want to destroy the market, 15% fixed, minimum $300 is the best pricing model.
I have a very enticing business plan for this as well if you're interested.
Couple more questions of course
Out of experience i know that chargebacks are doable if backed by solid evidence of the claim however i haven't encountered much of these situations, only twice and both times got my money back succesfully.
Verification situations is something i would like to avoid, i never encountered such requests tho with these VCC's and if really worth it, that shouldn't be a problem either, but at first glance i would like to avoid that.
15% fixed with a $300 minimum seems fair i guess and is doable.
But again, is this allowed on HF?
EDIT: In regards of verifications, i have used the VCCs on many occasions with different identity's and address details and never had any issues either, wether it was to book a vacation, buy virtual stuff, or buy physical stuff online.
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(Jul 31, 2023 05:21 PM)Dyne Wrote: I would also like to know this, I will be interested immediately.
EDIT: If you want to destroy the market, 15% fixed, minimum $300 is the best pricing model.
I have a very enticing business plan for this as well if you're interested.
Couple more questions of course
At 15% for 300+ most Would probably just buy PayPal balance
Please, send me your TG in DM's.
Jul 31, 2023 05:35 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 05:36 PM by Bullup.)
(Jul 31, 2023 05:32 PM)Vibe Wrote: At 15% for 300+ most Would probably just buy PayPal balance
These can be used for paypal no problem and can be topped up multiple times as well, used for years if you want to keep topping the same up through me, and i can do lower then 15% as well i guess, haven't done calculations myself, at this point im seeking out demand and wether this is allowed here to begin with.
Jul 31, 2023 05:37 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 05:38 PM by SMMservice.)
(Jul 31, 2023 05:35 PM)Bullup Wrote: These can be used for paypal no problem and can be topped up multiple times as well, used for years if you want to keep topping them up through me, and i can do lower then 15% as well i guess, haven't done calculations myself, at this point im seeking out demand and wether this is allowed here to begin with.
you should offer similar prices as crypto to VCC prepaid card dealers, they allow you to order VCC's on their site.
(Jul 31, 2023 05:37 PM)SMMservice Wrote: you should offer similar prices as crypto to VCC prepaid card dealers, they allow you to order VCC's on their site.
Alright so there is not much demand for a service like this, because coinsbee already exists, am i correct?
Jul 31, 2023 06:17 PM
(This post was last modified: Jul 31, 2023 06:28 PM by Bullup.)
Still looking to know if this is allowed here on HF wether i can start a service here or not...
To make things more clear for people:
Quote:* Visa or Mastercard (Master is recommended) Chargebacks can be made if solid evidence is provided, and i'll be very very harsh on this one.
Refunds initiated by the seller can be processed with no issues and will be available up to 5 business days max. Can be used on amazon i've had greenlight for, shouldn't be an issue but i don't guarantee altho over 3 years i've always been able to use them anywhere i wanted to use, 100s transactions.
Address verification isn't a thing with these. Identity verification isn't a thing with these either.
Rarely payments can be blocked on a card to avoid fraud, but i can unlock these payments and then all will go through fine. Can be used for very large purchases.
Can be topped up multiple times/used for years Top ups go through me
Can generate a new VCC at every transaction if you wish, but this isn't required as VCC's can be topped up unlimited times.
Don't contact me for business deals that involve 1000s customers, i'm not interested in that.
Don't contact me if you are a refunder, i'm not interested in blackhat as i value my business relationship with this company.
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