Hello all. It's been a while since I have been on this forum. I have been busy with my dissertation research. Thank you to those of you who anonymously participated in my research. I have submitted a manuscript for publication. I still have one more paper to go.
I have noticed that becoming a hacker is not always a very intentional process. Curious, intelligent and technically savvy youth experiment to see what they can do on a computer and end up learning various hacking skills during their experimentation. Do you think that if technically skilled youth were provided with opportunities to hone their skills and be mentored by cyber security professionals, that this would create more white hats?
Interesting in hearing opinions.
(Sep 1, 2024 09:31 AM)CaptechPhD Wrote: Hello all. It's been a while since I have been on this forum. I have been busy with my dissertation research. Thank you to those of you who anonymously participated in my research. I have submitted a manuscript for publication. I still have one more paper to go.
I have noticed that becoming a hacker is not always a very intentional process. Curious, intelligent and technically savvy youth experiment to see what they can do on a computer and end up learning various hacking skills during their experimentation. Do you think that if technically skilled youth were provided with opportunities to hone their skills and be mentored by cyber security professionals, that this would create more white hats?
Interesting in hearing opinions.
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(Sep 1, 2024 10:11 AM)Jamika Wrote: Or create a black one, experience only is two sided blade, we need ethics before learning
This is pretty much it. Back when I was 14 I was "pulling IPs" on COD, and trying to scare people. Doing juvenile shit. That's how it started for me. I didn't know you weren't supposed to stress your friends with a random web stressor.
Though they did eventually forgive me for that. (Thanks boys)
I'm not even close to a "good hacker", but my path probably started like a lot of other people's did.
Welcome back man,
Beyond talking about hacking, I think that youth especially needs to be made aware of all the risks related to the digital world.
Computers and the Internet are now part of most children's lives, just like aspects of life such as sexuality, society, and living together. For these areas, there are awareness courses in schools; however, I doubt there are many courses about the Internet, despite the fact that they spend most of their time on it compared to sexual activity.
Today, with social media, young hackers are primarily drawn to revenge, gaining fame / buzz, or trolling, as we see on all the forums where many seek to dox, steal Discord information, or hack Instagram accounts. We need to educate young people and explain to them that they cannot do whatever they want on the Internet just because they feel 'unreachable.
Although these activities are harmful, they are not considered crimes. However, by hanging out on forums, they may be drawn to more malicious activities and influenced by members offering them 'easy' money. In France, and in many other countries, I believe, we are seeing an increase in offenses and crimes committed by younger people, particularly influenced by social media, where authority no longer has any effect. I believe that we could reduce the number of young people involved in these activities with awareness courses, but also with more coercive authority. Today, no one fears the police or the law anymore. The deal would be simple: if you love computers and hacking, work in cybersecurity; if you decide to use your skills for something else, you will end up spending your days in prison. A society needs firmness to function; otherwise, people do whatever they want, especially on the Internet where they believe they are untouchable.
Sep 2, 2024 08:53 AM
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(Sep 1, 2024 10:18 AM)StinkButt420 Wrote: This is pretty much it. Back when I was 14 I was "pulling IPs" on COD, and trying to scare people. Doing juvenile shit. That's how it started for me. I didn't know you weren't supposed to stress your friends with a random web stressor.
Though they did eventually forgive me for that. (Thanks boys)
I'm not even close to a "good hacker", but my path probably started like a lot of other people's did.
I agree. I think a big problem is that there is a lack of awareness of the boundaries online. Kids are given free rein to go online and go wherever, with very little, if any, supervision. Kids being kids test limits and are not afraid to try things out. You can't really blame them for getting into trouble when the rules were never clear.
Thank you for providing your perspective.
(Sep 1, 2024 08:13 PM)Bastille Wrote: Welcome back man,
Beyond talking about hacking, I think that youth especially needs to be made aware of all the risks related to the digital world.
Computers and the Internet are now part of most children's lives, just like aspects of life such as sexuality, society, and living together. For these areas, there are awareness courses in schools; however, I doubt there are many courses about the Internet, despite the fact that they spend most of their time on it compared to sexual activity.
Today, with social media, young hackers are primarily drawn to revenge, gaining fame / buzz, or trolling, as we see on all the forums where many seek to dox, steal Discord information, or hack Instagram accounts. We need to educate young people and explain to them that they cannot do whatever they want on the Internet just because they feel 'unreachable.
Although these activities are harmful, they are not considered crimes. However, by hanging out on forums, they may be drawn to more malicious activities and influenced by members offering them 'easy' money. In France, and in many other countries, I believe, we are seeing an increase in offenses and crimes committed by younger people, particularly influenced by social media, where authority no longer has any effect. I believe that we could reduce the number of young people involved in these activities with awareness courses, but also with more coercive authority. Today, no one fears the police or the law anymore. The deal would be simple: if you love computers and hacking, work in cybersecurity; if you decide to use your skills for something else, you will end up spending your days in prison. A society needs firmness to function; otherwise, people do whatever they want, especially on the Internet where they believe they are untouchable.
I could agree more with your comments on the lack of awareness and teachings related to the internet for youth. I have drawn the analogy between the internet and a playground where all the play structures are metal, painted with lead paint and the ground is sharp rocks littered with trash and used syringes. No one would let a kid play there. But people have no problem giving their kids free rein on the internet without any sort of supervision.
We need to start teaching kids about the internet, the good, the bad and the ugly that exists in cyberspace. It is only once the boundaries have been clearly established that we can begin to hold people accountable for their behavior. I wholeheartedly disagree with criminalizing kids who unwittingly become engaged in online crime.
(Sep 2, 2024 08:53 AM)CaptechPhD Wrote: I agree. I think a big problem is that there is a lack of awareness of the boundaries online. Kids are given free rein to go online and go wherever, with very little, if any, supervision. Kids being kids test limits and are not afraid to try things out. You can't really blame them for getting into trouble when the rules were never clear.
Thank you for providing your perspective.
I could agree more with your comments on the lack of awareness and teachings related to the internet for youth. I have drawn the analogy between the internet and a playground where all the play structures are metal, painted with lead paint and the ground is sharp rocks littered with trash and used syringes. No one would let a kid play there. But people have no problem giving their kids free rein on the internet without any sort of supervision.
We need to start teaching kids about the internet, the good, the bad and the ugly that exists in cyberspace. It is only once the boundaries have been clearly established that we can begin to hold people accountable for their behavior. I wholeheartedly disagree with criminalizing kids who unwittingly become engaged in online crime.
Yeah, I just got out of high school like 2 years ago, and I definitely won't let my kids go unsupervised. But I have a deal with myself, if my kids can get around MY blockers, my restrictions, if they can "hack" around my stuff, that's fair game. My girlfriend on the other hand, she doesn't really understand. But I have plenty of time so hopefully she wises up.
My kids will probably be just as juvenile as I was though. Kind of hard coded. It was for me, it will be for them.
(Sep 2, 2024 10:40 AM)StinkButt420 Wrote: Yeah, I just got out of high school like 2 years ago, and I definitely won't let my kids go unsupervised. But I have a deal with myself, if my kids can get around MY blockers, my restrictions, if they can "hack" around my stuff, that's fair game. My girlfriend on the other hand, she doesn't really understand. But I have plenty of time so hopefully she wises up.
My kids will probably be just as juvenile as I was though. Kind of hard coded. It was for me, it will be for them.
The fact that you are considering these things puts you way ahead of the game, I think. Many parents have no idea what is going on online. Stay ahead of your kids will be a good challenge for you. Keep your skills fresh. LOL
(Sep 3, 2024 01:29 PM)CaptechPhD Wrote: The fact that you are considering these things puts you way ahead of the game, I think. Many parents have no idea what is going on online. Stay ahead of your kids will be a good challenge for you. Keep your skills fresh. LOL
I'm gonna approach my son after he gets around a thing that locks the PC down completely like "son, let me tell you about this thing called port 21."
Really sitting down and explaining that you should keep your data to yourself as much as you can is going to be weird. How do you even begin to explain to a child? When do you do it? When they ask to have a social media page? Getting it to really mean something to them is going to be the BIGGEST thing, because we all know as a kid you don't wanna hear "oh hey let me tell you about this thing companies do". I wouldn't have wanted to hear that. By then I was already playing COD with a headset mic, throwing down F bombs.
My son will come up to me about hacking, and I'll be like Hal from Malcolm In The Middle lol. "Son, you know once you start there's no going back, don't you?"
I remember the first time I learned the internet was a dangerous place, you never really forget that do you? I was 10 years old, some random SID hit my Skype. And since Skype is P2P they just had my IP. They told me "I know you live in Etna, and I know you're 10, and I know when your mom works, and doesn't work. I'm going to come down there, and (sexual assault word I'm not sure I'm allowed to say here) and murder you and your mom." And that was a hard lesson.
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