[THE RULER]

Contract Link: https://hackforums.net/contracts.php?act...cid=396881
Disputed Member: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=5507106

I purchased a 12 month sub YT sub on a new account. I was told if there were any issues, I would receive a new account.

What the user didn't disclose, was that this 12 month sub was actually 12 new google accounts with 1 month trials, and that every interruption wasn't going to happen at random, it was planned to happen every month and I was actually purchasing some straight up garbage.

✅ Warranty terms and Rules ☑️
Youtube accounts are guaranteed for the duration of your purchase, which means I will provide you with a new account post in case of any closure.

I should have a 12 month sub right now, how in the fuck is my youtube account guaranteed for the duration when there are 12 pre-planned interruptions because the seller is incompetent and is selling one month trial accounts without disclosing?

HOW DOES IT WORK ?

✅ The process will take a maximum of 5 minutes

Yeah okay, contacting this clown takes a lot more than 5 minutes. What part of this process takes 5 minutes? Creating 12 google accounts and having meetings around renewal time each month to go through the process of creating a new google account, providing him with the information, having all of your history & preferences reset, and then going through all of your devices and re-linking those as well?


This entire thread is deceptive and misleading, and he's banking on my contract being marked as invalid as was his last dispute, so he can continue to pull this shit.

After first month, auto-renew failed, and he informed me that I actually purchased 12 1-month trials, and not a 12 month yt premium sub as specified in his thread/contract I told him to fuck off.

I'm not willing to take any other accounts from him, if an admin marks this invalid, whatever, a scammer gets away with some petty funds. I will just buy elsewhere from a user who has a brain capable of free thought

There is a reason why this worm doesn't have (12 free trials) listed under 12 month youtube sub. Imagine thinking your customers are just going to be okay with linking 12 more google accounts to all of your devices and clearing all data monthly to save $9 on a sub that better sellers can offer at a similar pricepoint with a better method. If he had disclosed this retarded shit when I had purchased, or anywhere on his thread, I would not have.

[StuffSneak]

wow 12 1 month trials? That's just sad. I hope you get refund.

[Clue]

wow 12 1 month trials? That's just sad. I hope you get refund.

Agreed - sellers that sell these bullshit trials are not only inconveniencing themselves but inconveniencing their customers.

[Jeronim]

That's bad from him! I did a quick "stupid" deal with him, and he was already pissed after me reaching him out. Hopefully you get a decent refund.

[Portugals]

and




Hello from this guy for $15 'New account option in case of a problem Youtube account purchased'

(You can see our agreement from the written image on telegram)

- I offered this guy the options and he accepted this option and agreed

- Now he is not accepting a new account because there is a problem with his account, but why is he waiting? I offered you the guarantee at the beginning and offered you the new account option and you accepted it, isn't that fair?

You should have bought the $26 option to continue for 1 year with a single account (no risk) you didn't choose the option.

Now you can't come here and accuse me of being a scammer, why do people buy the $26 option? Because they don't want risk.

I offered you the options at the beginning and you chose this, there was a problem with your account and I was ready to send you a new account but you didn't accept it, that's your choice.

Stick to the agreement there is no reason for me to refund use your new account or continue to blame me because we act according to the agreement and the guarantee conditions.

You think you are a smart mouse but every price has a price, if you had bought the $26 option you could have used your own account without any risk.

You bought the cheapest option and it works as it should clown I offered you the options you accepted no need to cry.

and also, whether it is a trial version or not, selling it is not prohibited here, I did not see such a rule,

(new account and new account option in case of a problem is $15) You accepted the option, I did not force you to choose this


and writing 'scam' in my thread is a huge sign of inferiority, you know I didn't scam you.

Of course, the person who bought the $26 (no risk, same account) option and the customer who bought the $15 (new account) option do not have the same conditions.

[THE RULER]

don't care

I bought a 12 month subscription on a new account, not 12 free trials on a 12 new accounts with your new VCC EACH and EVERY month, not what I purchased whatsoever, no matter how you word it.

You PURPOSELY left out details because you know anyone with a brain would refuse to purchase this shit normally.

I do not have an active 12 month subscription like I paid for, and I refuse to take 12 different google accounts and link them to my device/abuse ToS and organize field trips on telegram to set up new accounts every month of the expiration date with a bumbling retard.

You can either refund me or leave this completely valid deal dispute up. Frankly I don't care either way, I've basically assumed I've been out $15 since the first exchange with you today.

As I said, I no longer feel safe receiving accounts from you, refund me if you are unable to offer the service, the service that you have yet to provide, an account with an active 12 month subscription.


I will NOT accept 12 1-month trial accounts repeatedly, that is not what I paid for, that is not on your thread, neither the contract. Only a 12 month SUBSCRIPTION.

---

That's bad from him! I did a quick "stupid" deal with him, and he was already pissed after me reaching him out. Hopefully you get a decent refund.

I doubt I will receive a refund, this guy is just a grifter, it's why he is purposely vague on his thread.

Do not let this discourage you from using other sellers! I have purchased similar services on this forum for the last 5 years, all went off without a hitch for the full period of the subs.

---

You should have bought the $26 option to continue for 1 year with a single account (no risk) you didn't choose the option
and writing 'scam' in my thread is a huge sign of inferiority, you know I didn't scam you.

Of course, the person who bought the $26 (no risk, same account) option and the customer who bought the $15 (new account) option do not have the same conditions.

"You should have bought the $26 option to continue for 1 year with a single account (no risk) you didn't choose the option"

The way your thread is worded it IS IMPLIED that there is only a single account with your cheaper option as well. In case of closure? "risk"?
By the way, either you don't understand the english language, or you're purposely playing stupid.

You FULLY INTENTIONALLY leave out all details hinting that you are selling 1 MONTH TRIALS that need to be replaced MONTHLY and act as if you are selling subscriptions, in which you COMPLETELY AND CATEGORICALLY are not doing so.

Let me inform you of what a risk is you absolute clown, it is when you are exposed to POTENTIAL danger, yes in terms of account closure I would be expecting a new account, with the same active 12 month subscription. When you guarantee that there is a stop every 30 days by providing me with SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT I PAID FOR and I have to have a pow wow with some illiterate foreigner who can't comprehend basic english on telegram that is no longer a RISK. I don't have time for your bullshit.

100% scammer grifter con artist there is a reason why you are banned from many other forums as highlighted in prior disputes.

[Clue]

and




Hello from this guy for $15 'New account option in case of a problem Youtube account purchased'

(You can see our agreement from the written image on telegram)

- I offered this guy the options and he accepted this option and agreed

- Now he is not accepting a new account because there is a problem with his account, but why is he waiting? I offered you the guarantee at the beginning and offered you the new account option and you accepted it, isn't that fair?

You should have bought the $26 option to continue for 1 year with a single account (no risk) you didn't choose the option.

Now you can't come here and accuse me of being a scammer, why do people buy the $26 option? Because they don't want risk.

I offered you the options at the beginning and you chose this, there was a problem with your account and I was ready to send you a new account but you didn't accept it, that's your choice.

Stick to the agreement there is no reason for me to refund use your new account or continue to blame me because we act according to the agreement and the guarantee conditions.

You think you are a smart mouse but every price has a price, if you had bought the $26 option you could have used your own account without any risk.

You bought the cheapest option and it works as it should clown I offered you the options you accepted no need to cry.

and also, whether it is a trial version or not, selling it is not prohibited here, I did not see such a rule,

(new account and new account option in case of a problem is $15) You accepted the option, I did not force you to choose this


and writing 'scam' in my thread is a huge sign of inferiority, you know I didn't scam you.

Of course, the person who bought the $26 (no risk, same account) option and the customer who bought the $15 (new account) option do not have the same conditions.

That is purposely misleading. “New account” DOES NOT in any way make it clear you are selling him shitty trial YouTube subs.

I would be fuming if you did this to me. You need to advertise “problem will happen, every month, as these are trial accounts”.

[Charlie Sheen]

Your term "new account" makes it seem like he's just getting a new account from you instead of using his current existing account. It doesn't imply in any way that he would be needing a new account every month of the year. This is something that should've been mentioned before the contract was started. I used to sell 1 month xbox live codes, one of my listings was for 3 month xbox live but I made sure to let my customers know they would be getting 3x 1 month codes to redeem.

[THE RULER]

Your term "new account" makes it seem like he's just getting a new account from you instead of using his current existing account. It doesn't imply in any way that he would be needing a new account every month of the year. This is something that should've been mentioned before the contract was started. I used to sell 1 month xbox live codes, one of my listings was for 3 month xbox live but I made sure to let my customers know they would be getting 3x 1 month codes to redeem.

Exactly! Imagine if you're selling me a 1 month xbox live sub and you try and have a meeting with me to activate a free 1 day trial every day of the 30 days, what in the fuck?

[Binance]

this is a shitty tactic. The leecher forums are littered with services that charge $5-$8/lifetime for the same shit and defendant is reselling it for $15/year using deceptive marketing.
example:
https://xupgrader.com/youtube/pricing.html

$8 lifetime/single is what most people resell from. then once that 12 month shit is up they sell the same key to someone else lol. Theres shopify, disney+, all of the big names
It gets clapped after 1 month and you need to renew.

leechy.

[THE RULER]

this is a shitty tactic. The leecher forums are littered with services that charge $5-$8/lifetime for the same shit and defendant is reselling it for $15/year using deceptive marketing.
example:
https://xupgrader.com/youtube/pricing.html

$8 lifetime/single is what most people resell from. then once that 12 month shit is up they sell the same key to someone else lol. Theres shopify, disney+, all of the big names
It gets clapped after 1 month and you need to renew.

leechy.

Exactly, if I wanted 1 month trial accounts I could get them cheap as fuck, I was led to believe I was buying one account with a 12mo sub, I got bait and switched and he hides behind his thread which doesn't support his dumb ass argument.

Scammer

[THE RULER]

Hello Omniscient, I don't think there will be any more back and forth, could you weigh in? Thanks for your time.

[Portugals]

Your term "new account" makes it seem like he's just getting a new account from you instead of using his current existing account. It doesn't imply in any way that he would be needing a new account every month of the year. This is something that should've been mentioned before the contract was started. I used to sell 1 month xbox live codes, one of my listings was for 3 month xbox live but I made sure to let my customers know they would be getting 3x 1 month codes to redeem.

The user bought a new account guarantee account from me and chose this option, there was a problem with his account and I need to send him a new account but he did not accept it.

Also all the accounts that will be sent to him will not be 'free trial', and there will be no problems every month.

But he chose the cheapest option at first and accepted the 'new account guarantee in case of problems' also it is written in the 'Warranty & conditions' section, I apply the option he chose

I don't see anything different here, there is a big difference between the expensive and cheap options, if he had bought the 'NO RISK' option there would have been no problem anyway, but the cheap one is sent as a new account as stated in the option he chose, and I told this guy this from the very beginning in our conversations and he accepted it.

Like everyone else, this man also has to abide by the agreement and it is his choice, if there is a problem I am obliged to provide him with a new account. This does not mean that there will be problems every month.

and of course I didn't give him the guarantee of using the same account for '1 Year' because he didn't buy that option, there is no 'No Risk' statement in the option he bought and I said that I will send a new account in case of any problems and it is written in the 'Warranty & Conditions' section of this thread, whenever the accounts sent to him die, then a new account will be sent, and it is not always the case that they die every month.

This guy violates the agreement and curses me many times, I gave you options and you accepted them, so what's the difference between you and those who bought the 'No risk' option? Other customers are not stupid.

[Charlie Sheen]

Snip

However you didn't state he was getting 12 separate accounts that he would have to get with you monthly to retrieve. That would be frustrating to have to start on a new account every month. Resubscribe to all the content creators I watch, save all the playlists, this would be very frustrating for me if I wasn't told upfront from the beginning what I was buying.

All you told him was "new account guarantee".

[THE RULER]

blah

You NEVER disclosed you were selling me trials and that I was purchasing 12 different 1 month trial accounts.

I NEVER would have purchased this shit you were selling if you actually made it clear that you are not selling what you claim 12 month subs on new accounts.

Who the fuck is linking 12 different google accounts and setting up hours' long meetings with people abroad once a month to set up a new trial account with all new information.

There was NO agreement made for me to take 12 trial accounts. I didn't receive what I purchased at all, A SINGLE 12 MONTH SUB ON A NEW ACCOUNT.

You are so used to getting your way and being a cunt that you literally won't even acknowledge how wrong you are in selling this absolute TRASH as a 12 month subscription when it so clearly IS NOT.

Also, how in the fuck would a free trial account not die at the end of the free trial? You are literally using VCCs with $0 to initiate 30 DAY FREE TRIALS. The account I received, 30 DAY FREE TRIAL.

I didn't purchase this fucking bullshit, I don't want to have a back and forth with a literal cretin, resolve this or we can just await omni's decision, whatever he decides, I'm completely cool with.

The average user on HF has been burned by you, I'm guessing many times by the recent deal disputes, and you are a literal CANCER to the community, the fact that you are so adamant on continuing to scam me for $15 instead of refunding me when you sold me something I literally DID NOT purchase and have $0 invested is absolutely insane you dimwit. You could have just refunded me and kept up your grift without the community being aware of how slimy you are.

Frankly, I don't care about the $15, even if the decision ends not in my favor, everyone will be aware that you are clearly a scammer.

I've used another user here, at a similar price point, and already received a 12 month upgrade, hassle free, no fucking bullshit trial accounts.