[Klonopin]

>AI coders don’t know about git



Feelsbadman, this must have stung.

[RootRXXT]

Well, iv'e done some pretty sketchy shit in the past and forgot to backup changes as well....

shitest thing 3hours of working on core stack , reboot system and reverted to default... just coz i forgot to wr mem

[SIM-2501407]

I hope this was for a personal project cause what fucking job lets you go 4 months without moving up your code? JFC.

It's so sad that people are making 6 figures as 'engineers' and cannot do their job - or even use git.

I personally know of a person, who cheated for their certificates, that is 4 years in as an engineer, and is incapable of doing their job. They caused an error that went all the way up to production recently. They denied it was their fault, and once it was shown via git blame it was them, they blamed the AI. Riight, gotcha, it's an AI problem, not a skill issue. They are lucky that their project is laid back otherwise they wouldn't survive.

I swear interviews have to be more intense because it is insanity that people get and stay employed with no skills. If you are going to hire someone, you should test them on all their knowledge - security, networking, programming, data storage, operating systems, backup & recovery, etc. It only takes a hour of technical interviewing to get a general understanding of what people know and what they are weak in. I do feel for entry-level IT people as I know it was difficult for me to get a job pre-AI, but ffs, we need some level of standards/training before they start.

Also, if you are someone that is going to use AI, make sure you understand what it is doing. I always highly recommend performing a dry run if possible.

i.e. if you want to delete a bunch of log files on linux you can do
`find /var/log/ -type f -name "*.log" -mtime +7 -print` before replacing -print with -delete so you don't accidently delete all your log files. For god sake do not do a rm -rf on a directory prior to reviewing what it is your deleting.

I mean, yeah, ideally for logs, they are going to Splunk, Cloudwatch, or some other SIEM. It was just an example.

[Hackers]

aaaaaand this is why I make every single new engineering hire spend 15-30 minutes without internet on a machine with no resources and ask them to code from memory in their top language.

You'd be surprised how many people can get through an interview but fail to write code convincingly. I'm not even looking for perfection, but holy shit if you can't even start a project on your own then no thanks.

I assume they must be taking starter kits or other projects and getting by with simple knowledge.

It has been a while though since I've seen this. This was happening for when we hired Juniors, I don't really see it with mid level or up.

[holofernes]

I hope this was for a personal project cause what fucking job lets you go 4 months without moving up your code? JFC.

It's so sad that people are making 6 figures as 'engineers' and cannot do their job - or even use git.

I personally know of a person, who cheated for their certificates, that is 4 years in as an engineer, and is incapable of doing their job. They caused an error that went all the way up to production recently. They denied it was their fault, and once it was shown via git blame it was them, they blamed the AI. Riight, gotcha, it's an AI problem, not a skill issue. They are lucky that their project is laid back otherwise they wouldn't survive.

I swear interviews have to be more intense because it is insanity that people get and stay employed with no skills. If you are going to hire someone, you should test them on all their knowledge - security, networking, programming, data storage, operating systems, backup & recovery, etc. It only takes a hour of technical interviewing to get a general understanding of what people know and what they are weak in. I do feel for entry-level IT people as I know it was difficult for me to get a job pre-AI, but ffs, we need some level of standards/training before they start.

Also, if you are someone that is going to use AI, make sure you understand what it is doing. I always highly recommend performing a dry run if possible.

i.e. if you want to delete a bunch of log files on linux you can do
`find /var/log/ -type f -name "*.log" -mtime +7 -print` before replacing -print with -delete so you don't accidently delete all your log files. For god sake do not do a rm -rf on a directory prior to reviewing what it is your deleting.

I mean, yeah, ideally for logs, they are going to Splunk, Cloudwatch, or some other SIEM. It was just an example.

For most of these people getting interviewed, they are doing it remotely, and just using a second laptop with their AI of choice which they feed the interviewers LEET code questions into. These are people that often graduate college by using AI all the way, or how it used to be done in the past ripping a past student's Github repo for source code to a 15 year old project. It's fairly hard to weed these people out in an interview unless it's in-person and you make them code something that is unique or may require some forward thinking. You also want to see if they know about classic secure software practices, do they use historically unsafe functions (scanf in C for example)? are they checking buffer limits or sanitizing input?

AI has really made it so that those who only got into SWE/cybersec/copmuter science for the money and have absolutely no idea why a computer works even more of an issue than before. In the past those people certainly existed, but a more competitive job market squeezed them out. I've seen some people in technical interviews who have graduated college and straight up do not know how to index an array, or if arrays are mutable or not.

I knew like 4 guys who are all like that engineer; They don't code anything on their own, abuse AI, and then when they get inevitably burned for not being able to think for themselves they just blame anything but themselves. At least idiots like that make vulnerable software and keep black-hat hacking alive.

[Novo]

I always initialize git on directories. Always.

[N604]

That's so sad lol. In nowdays not using version control of some kind is just don't even know what you're doing

[Doug Dimmadome]

Happened to me once, but not because of AI/LLMs. Worked on a project for two years on my free time after work. I used Git for version control, but didn't have a remote to push to at the time (stupid, I know). Decided to upgrade my SSD one day and I guess it was a little too late because my old one died in the imaging process and I lost all of my work. It was pretty depressing and I didn't program for about six months following the incident.

I now always use a remote, even if it's just my homelab Gitea instance.

[ByteDoktor]

I've been there but before git, I would create multiple folders. It was a nightmare. Git is a must nowadays especially with AI code editors.

[Skidsuper]

Instead of blaming it on IDE he should reflect on why he didn't back up with git. I hope it was not an important project though. Feels bad man. Generative AI is here and it is here to stay. Just like the printing press.

[MavenGradle]

Instead of blaming it on IDE he should reflect on why he didn't back up with git. I hope it was not an important project though. Feels bad man. Generative AI is here and it is here to stay. Just like the printing press.

The why could simply be because this person is a student and did not know of the existence of git or version control or the ability to create backups because the educational system that this person 'used' is failing him. There are many factors to weigh in here and little bits and pieces of blame to be placed here and there, but overall you could say that the ability to write computer code should also come with the innate comprehension skills and logical insight to deduce and figure out the existence of the ability to back up your code. Perhaps there is a sane reason not to utilize any of these safeguards for preventing data loss, e.g. in a sandboxed and highly sensitive environment but then the usage of cloud based AI is also illogical / a breach of security so through the power of logical deduction I think it is very safe to say that this person is an idiot who, in my opinion, does NOT have what it takes to be considered intelligent life, by my standard.

To publicly out yourself like this is attention seeking behaviour which is not beneficial to his image.. or he learned from his mistakes. I believe the saying goes that 'to err, is human'. Purposefully and intentionally not utilizing your brain for mistakes that could have been avoided are very clear signs of degraded intelligence though. Swords can cut on both ends and time will tell what judgement this person deserves, if worthy of time for being judged at all.

[Infinity.]

Wait, why is you blacked username :( ?

[Phantom_NiNja]

I hope this was for a personal project cause what fucking job lets you go 4 months without moving up your code? JFC.

It's so sad that people are making 6 figures as 'engineers' and cannot do their job - or even use git.

I personally know of a person, who cheated for their certificates, that is 4 years in as an engineer, and is incapable of doing their job. They caused an error that went all the way up to production recently. They denied it was their fault, and once it was shown via git blame it was them, they blamed the AI. Riight, gotcha, it's an AI problem, not a skill issue. They are lucky that their project is laid back otherwise they wouldn't survive.

I swear interviews have to be more intense because it is insanity that people get and stay employed with no skills. If you are going to hire someone, you should test them on all their knowledge - security, networking, programming, data storage, operating systems, backup & recovery, etc. It only takes a hour of technical interviewing to get a general understanding of what people know and what they are weak in. I do feel for entry-level IT people as I know it was difficult for me to get a job pre-AI, but ffs, we need some level of standards/training before they start.

Also, if you are someone that is going to use AI, make sure you understand what it is doing. I always highly recommend performing a dry run if possible.

i.e. if you want to delete a bunch of log files on linux you can do
`find /var/log/ -type f -name "*.log" -mtime +7 -print` before replacing -print with -delete so you don't accidently delete all your log files. For god sake do not do a rm -rf on a directory prior to reviewing what it is your deleting.

I mean, yeah, ideally for logs, they are going to Splunk, Cloudwatch, or some other SIEM. It was just an example.

Everyone is cheating using AI in today's time. I heard that 60% of kids in school from elementary to highschool cannot read or count money.

We got a new hire that just got out of highschool and his job was to process payments. He demanded the customer use paypal, vemo, or apple pay or google pay. He said they have to convert their money into digits. Our boss got pissed off because too many customers complained that we refused to accept cash payments.

That kid ended up getting fired. The reason he didn't know how to count money and his defense is that it's an old outdated system. He told our boss that people need to get with the times and start using digital wallets like crypto and debit cards or credit cards. He said no one pays in ash anymore.

He said he doesn't know how to count money because he never had to count money in his life and he himself uses crypto and a debit card to pay for things.

I am dumb founded.

[Chornaya Magiya]

Everyone talks about Git, but the thing is, Git projects, data, and API keys get hijacked daily. Personally, I wouldn't put any files on Git or allow employees to do so, unless they are experienced IT professionals who won’t fall for phishing links.

The point is, you always need to do backups.
Personally for my opinion best is to do local backups.

If u want work with team, np create local network folder and go ahead :) works for all languages haha

[Robert Rouge]

aaaaaand this is why I make every single new engineering hire spend 15-30 minutes without internet on a machine with no resources and ask them to code from memory in their top language.

this sounds like good exercise for practice too
is ide resource?