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Scammed by Insidious | Partnership 'Sin-Crypter' | over 100$ | UID = 1179086

I hope you get all your money back. Legit scam report.
First off, you know I couldn't pay you because of the chargebacks on sin-crypter.

This made me -130$ on paypal, because the crypter wasn't working for people, it either wasn't fud, or just corrupted their servers.

Second off, I haven't scammed you, I've said to you, I will pay you, and you'll carry on developing sin-crypter, and you've refused, that isn't my problem.

I also said, I'm gonna have to refund the customers, or give them my new crypter, which I shouldn't have to do, as the crypter should be working.

People don't buy a non working crypter, it's common logic to buy something that's working mate.

/Scamreportinvalid.
(Sep 16, 2013 09:46 AM)Oboy Wrote:  Looks like a legit scam report, sucks that you got scammed dude.

Legit? HAHAAHAH scammed? HAAHAHAH

wow, you guys are such idiots.
This is a false scam report, Insidious is not a scammer, stefanos is, I bought this crypter, and it hasn't been fud for weeks, even before this issue, and it had been corrupting my servers, Why should insidious pay stefanos when he's been providing a non working crypter? Insidious has offered me his new and even better crypter for compensation, which Is more than enough to be honest, and he shouldn't even have to do this.
(Sep 16, 2013 09:47 AM)stefsot Wrote:  and of course you know this because insidious told you so... right?

No, because he's not a fucking idiot he's seen people complain about the crypter not working.

(Sep 16, 2013 09:52 AM)OwnerORAdminPlease Wrote:  This is a false scam report, Insidious is not a scammer, stefanos is, I bought this crypter, and it hasn't been fud for weeks, even before this issue, and it had been corrupting my servers, Why should insidious pay stefanos when he's been providing a non working crypter? Insidious has offered me his new and even better crypter for compensation, which Is more than enough to be honest, and he shouldn't even have to do this.

Finally, someone with actual logic man.
Seems legit bro Hope you get your money back! OP!
(Sep 16, 2013 10:00 AM)stefsot Wrote:  Once insidious blocked me out of netseal I disabled the crypter.
I was later contacted by a customer that has bought a lifetime license and I was forced to make an update and give him an updated version because he did paid for the product eventhough I got no 0$.

Told you before. You said you will pay me only if I keep making the crypter with you for you. no no no, been through this already and Im sure I dont like it.

You will pay me and eveyr customer that bought this will receive a license and thats my business, you Insidious only need to pay me nad stop making up stories.

For everyone that has trouble reading. He first said that had no money due to a charge back (orrevelant with the crypter) and later started claiming that the crypter was problematic.

Also why do I have to ague with a user that joined, most likely, 10 seconds ago?

it was problematic, I can even post proof of the people who complained.

Why would I pay you just to stop sin-crypter.
I've said, I'll pay you, and you'll carry on coding, refudding and fixing the problems, and you declined.

Also, how could I have paid you back when I was -130$?
That was your problem that that happened, you was providing the people who paid a shit crypter that didn't even work and that wasn't even FUD, why would someone pay for an unfud crypter?
(Sep 16, 2013 10:08 AM)stefsot Wrote:  No, you will give what you owe me.
Wont make a crypter for you dude, ever again.

It was fud and was working.

No.
it was not fud, and it wasn't working.
(Sep 16, 2013 10:11 AM)HeliosGR Wrote:  Unfud? Non-functional?
So you started a buisness that sells a non-functional and unfud crypter.
Nice! So you wwanted to scam the buyers?

Stefsot can prove for its fuctionality and also that it was FUD.

Also as mentioned above, you owe him 50% OF THE EARNINGS.

You agreed the 50% of sales. Learn to do buisness and keep your promises.
You are really LOW user.

After all these...
You still lie and lie.
So problematic behaviour..

No, I didn't
I started a partnership with stefanos, at first, it worked, and was fud, than it started becoming shit with his new updates.
(Sep 16, 2013 10:15 AM)stefsot Wrote:  Posted skype logs where I asked him proof that he got -130$ from the crypter. He said "sec". It's been now over 48 hours.


Shit with new updates? The core of the program didnt change at all, it was mostly refud updates.

i have i paypal holder, I have to wait on himto send me the proof mate.
(Sep 16, 2013 10:22 AM)stefsot Wrote:  And why the heck did you kick out of net seal? And why didnt you close the sales thread like you said so? You wanted to keep selling it without me.

I didn't close it because I went to bed, I will close it now.
And I kicked you out because you said that you're not working with me anymore.
(Sep 16, 2013 10:31 AM)HeliosGR Wrote:  You wasnt paying him for over a month now..
Even if he is kicked, you owe him the money..

Also, please tell me, how much time it takes to close a thread? 2 seconds?
Why didnt you close it when you, got online later?
It's still open..

Man... Your arguements are invalid.

As I've said, my paypal has been in minus because of him, so how could I pay him.
And so what? I have a social life.
(Sep 16, 2013 10:46 AM)Grieve™ Wrote:  I'm sorry but this crypter did work for me and was fud for most of the time. Also, insidious has yet to post any proof whatsoever to back up his accusations. 1 question for you, if you have $120 why didnt you pay off your paypal debts instead of trying to invest it, that doesn't add up.

because, than I'd still have this kid crying about the money?

(Sep 16, 2013 10:44 AM)HeliosGR Wrote:  It takes 2 seconds to close a thread, but you cant beacuase of social life.
So if you spend 2 seconds it will ruin your social life (That makes sense)

As i said your arguements are invalid...

Insidious, this thing goes as far as you want.
You pay him the money and he will close the scam report.

This proves how un-trusted and LQ member you are..
Such a legit scam report, and you still lie and lie..

Find it how you're his friend, ofc you're gonna stick up for him, even if he is telling lies, which he is.
(Sep 16, 2013 11:03 AM)stefsot Wrote:  He is my brother. He knows the full story since he has seen most of it.
I got proofs for everything.

I will upload the proof in a few minutes Once I'm done.
Where is the proof people charged back, _ÎȵЅїḎḯṐṳṨ_?
Where is the proof your paypal is -130, _ÎȵЅїḎḯṐṳṨ_?

You've provided no proof other than your words against his, the only difference is he can back up what he's claiming with screenshots and skype logs.

This looks like a completely legit scam report and I hope you get your money back, stefsot.


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