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[Opinion][Preview] HWID System by KoBE [Encrypted HWID + Online Management]

What's the point of posting this where tutorials and where people ask questions???
(Feb 21, 2011 12:48 PM)TheCrackEr Wrote:  hmm nice hwid-system 👍
Will this system be free or you sell it?

Thinking about selling it.

(Feb 21, 2011 02:35 PM)DarkCore Wrote:  What's the point of posting this where tutorials and where people ask questions???

Because a majority of people that would use something like this are in this sub forum.
Woah, Howmuch will you be selling this?
or do you wanna release it for free anytime soon?! :D

This looks fab :)
Very nice work mate.... cant wait to see it in alpha stage..
PHP & .NET Contributor.
(Feb 18, 2011 10:59 PM)TLF-KoBE Wrote:  I don't think this can be bypassed so easy. I mean, I know it CAN be, but definitely not as easy as the HWID systems that are on HF.
How do you know?
You said you aren't a good cracker, how would you know when something is hard to crack or not?

How exactly are you encrypting the keys right now?
RSA?
(Feb 21, 2011 06:01 PM)Doctor07 Wrote:  Woah, Howmuch will you be selling this?
or do you wanna release it for free anytime soon?! :D

This looks fab :)

Thanks, I'm not sure yet.. thinking I will host a system and sell access for $5 per app, and sell the system with resell rights for $20. That's just an idea, there are still a few changes I want to make before it's ready to release.

(Feb 21, 2011 06:59 PM)[H]ell Wrote:  How do you know?
You said you aren't a good cracker, how would you know when something is hard to crack or not?

How exactly are you encrypting the keys right now?
RSA?

What I know is that it is harder to crack than the systems currently on HF. The HWID is encrypted with AES-256. If you would like to have a try at it, I can throw a test app together. Nobody has currently gave it a shot so I would be very glad to see what somebody can do.
I like this.

I had an idea for this a while ago. It never took off. :(
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Sell it and earn some money from your work dude :)
Good job!
ahh right cool cool :D cant wait to see it in action :P
(Feb 21, 2011 09:33 PM)TLF-KoBE Wrote:  Thanks, I'm not sure yet.. thinking I will host a system and sell access for $5 per app, and sell the system with resell rights for $20. That's just an idea, there are still a few changes I want to make before it's ready to release.

(Feb 21, 2011 06:59 PM)[H]ell Wrote:  How do you know?
You said you aren't a good cracker, how would you know when something is hard to crack or not?

How exactly are you encrypting the keys right now?
RSA?
What I know is that it is harder to crack than the systems currently on HF. The HWID is encrypted with AES-256. If you would like to have a try at it, I can throw a test app together. Nobody has currently gave it a shot so I would be very glad to see what somebody can do.

Hmm AES... How would you keep the KEY protected from being extracted from the EXE?

You will be better off using RSA, since that has a public key, and a private master key.

AES uses the same key for both encryption and decryption.
And if you use AES in client side application, I will just be able to extract it from the EXE, and than decrypt all the packets.
(Feb 22, 2011 07:29 AM)[H]ell Wrote:  Hmm AES... How would you keep the KEY protected from being extracted from the EXE?

You will be better off using RSA, since that has a public key, and a private master key.

AES uses the same key for both encryption and decryption.
And if you use AES in client side application, I will just be able to extract it from the EXE, and than decrypt all the packets.

Thanks for the input, I'll look into RSA. I chose AES because I need to be able to encrypt/decrypt with PHP and VB.net. This was the easiest path for me to take considering I've never had experience with RSA. Would you mind taking a crack at this?
You'll want to use both RSA and AES. Net Seal was using just AES a while back and someone finally figured it out and cracked it so I had to update the system to use RSA.
Very interested.
Just joined this forum to read some of the earlier (and somewhat disappointing) HWID locking threads.

I am interested in paying for it (not a hosted version).

I would need to be able to edit the system to do the following:

1 not have a separate app for generating the HWID, instead on main app load, check if registered, and if not display registration form.

2.Registration form to include paypal email address field and transactionID field. On completion, should send details to database so i can then check against my transaction details and activate as required.

If your code is clean and well commented i could easily do this myself.

Let me know if your interested, i can send you some cash, even if the system's not finished.

@ AeonHack
Your system is obviously tried and tested and looks impressive, but is unfortunately a hosted solution as far as i can see.
Do you offer any non hosted solution? I am not fussed about nice front ends, and would happily add users straight to the database if needed, but simply can not rely on a third party to host licensing for my app.
Please send or how much???

I'll be your tester and ill vouch, i have a webhost ready to use it and a program being made to use it on!
(Feb 23, 2011 01:08 AM)6e756c6c Wrote:  You'll want to use both RSA and AES. Net Seal was using just AES a while back and someone finally figured it out and cracked it so I had to update the system to use RSA.

The profit of using both RSA and AES?
The AES key can still be read, making it nothing harder to crack the RSA with or without AES.


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