(Aug 19, 2014 01:39 PM)ThatGuyPT Wrote: Yea right 35$/hr for front-end developing and 30$/hr for back-end.
Alright AT LEAST you're not saying 5$ but this price still might be considered offensive to the developer. That is dirt cheap and not the median price.
That is maybe half or 2/3 of the actual median amount which is 50-70$/hr
It depends on your region for pricing as well. Also, not everybody charges exorbitant hourly rates because they just have a larger base price quoted. E.g. $500 base + $35 an hour, which really can make it $50-$70 an hour when you average the entire project.
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(Aug 19, 2014 01:49 PM)webdev77 Wrote: It depends on your region for pricing as well. Also, not everybody charges exorbitant hourly rates because they just have a larger base price quoted. E.g. $500 base + $35 an hour, which really can make it $50-$70 an hour when you average the entire project.
Right, but no one ACTUALLY makes $125k/year from front-end web development unless you're working as like a division manager (not exactly a dev) for Google/Intel/MS/Apple, etc.
Aug 19, 2014 02:46 PM
(This post was last modified: Aug 19, 2014 02:47 PM by [H]ell.)
If you actually charge $35 an hour have fun paying taxes, electrical bills, licenses and office rent.. You'll have close to nothing left to pay your food and all the other living expenses. What if you break your computer or it gets outdated, what money you gonna use to buy a new one? You need extra money to reinvest.
Company I work at charges clients ~$110 an hour to put me on service tasks, and I'm a developer.
It sounds like a lot, but when you actually substract all the expenses, it's still not that much.
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Aug 19, 2014 02:53 PM
(This post was last modified: Aug 19, 2014 03:09 PM by Ventures.)
(Aug 19, 2014 02:46 PM)[H]ell Wrote: If you actually charge $35 an hour have fun paying taxes, electrical bills, licenses and office rent.. You'll have close to nothing left to pay your food and all the other living expenses. What if you break your computer or it gets outdated, what money you gonna use to buy a new one? You need extra money to reinvest.
Company I work at charges clients ~$110 an hour to put me on service tasks, and I'm a developer.
It sounds like a lot, but when you actually substract all the expenses, it's still not that much.
I'm talking about yearly salary broken down to hourly wage.
If you work 260 days a year for 8 hours a day at $110/hour, you make $230k a year which I'm assuming you must either work for a major banking/financial firm, Google, or the government in a city where prices are inflated (like New York).
The average web developer makes $62k a year across the USA according the the Bureau of Labor, probably up to $100k/year in price-inflated areas, and around $50k/year in poorer areas.
Actually, if you wanted to be technical about it, let me break down a 70k salary. Assuming income tax is 30%, you're left with 49k. Renting is about $1k/month in most suburban areas, so lets subtract 12k to get 37k. Electricity/Gas bills are $150/month, water and sewer bills are $100/month, trash bills are $30/month, and internet/phone bills are $70 a month adding up to $4,200/year. That ends up with ~$33k/year so far. Car insurance (if you're a good driver) is $1k/year, leaving you with $32k/year.
That's $2,600 to spend each month on your own leisure, which is quite enough to live comfortably if you're only supporting yourself. Oh, and I rounded up in most of my calculations, so personal expenses are accounted for (gas, necessity shopping, etc). I'd say if you really wanted to treat yourself nicely, $30/day for food (already a very high estimate) would only run you $900/month. You've got $1,700 left which is enough to let you go out every weekend and still have around $1k in savings as backup. And that's saying you spend like $200 every weekend on yourself.
Oh sorry mate. I was talking about Freelancers.
(Aug 19, 2014 02:46 PM)[H]ell Wrote: If you actually charge $35 an hour have fun paying taxes, electrical bills, licenses and office rent.. You'll have close to nothing left to pay your food and all the other living expenses. What if you break your computer or it gets outdated, what money you gonna use to buy a new one? You need extra money to reinvest.
Company I work at charges clients ~$110 an hour to put me on service tasks, and I'm a developer.
It sounds like a lot, but when you actually substract all the expenses, it's still not that much.
I mean come on. I meant that price is acceptable but the reasons you presented aren't right. Unless you eat like caviar every meal or something.
I mean what the hell. It's not like you are transforming products like buying wood and making furniture. Not like you have to pay car maintenance for your sellers. Not like if you work for two days you can't buy a top notch PC.
The price is high because of the qualification needs, not because of expenses.
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(Aug 19, 2014 03:30 PM)Narvikz Wrote: Oh sorry mate. I was talking about Freelancers.
Ahah, my bad, I thought you were talking about a legitimate job :P
(Aug 19, 2014 03:34 PM)Ventures Wrote: Ahah, my bad, I thought you were talking about a legitimate job :P
It is a legitimate job. But here where I live you'd have to open a micro solo company or something for tax stuff. And a worker working on his own gets like 500€ taken away in taxes. Fucking ridiculous motherfucking government.
But I am actually surprised back-end developers are paid 30$/hr at a job to be honest. That's pretty sick. 240$ per day. lol
My parents are paid at 5-6€/hr
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(Aug 19, 2014 04:00 PM)Narvikz Wrote: It is a legitimate job. But here where I live you'd have to open a micro solo company or something for tax stuff. And a worker working on his own gets like 500€ taken away in taxes. Fucking ridiculous motherfucking government.
But I am actually surprised back-end developers are paid 30$/hr at a job to be honest. That's pretty sick. 240$ per day. lol
My parents are paid at 5-6€/hr
Yeah, it's crazy if you think about it. It took me like a month to learn intermediate Javascript and I already get hired for $35/hour on a contractor project for a simple GUI fix :)
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Development - $30/hour (median)
If that is the median price for development, my prices must be amazing...
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(Sep 17, 2014 02:35 PM)Insomnolence Wrote: Development - $30/hour (median)
If that is the median price for development, my prices must be amazing...
Yes, for professional work done that's industry optimized, the median hourly rate is $30/hour. Keep in mind median != mean != mode.
I don't have statistics for the mode, but I'll take a healthy guess that it's around $30 - $40/hour.
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